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    Posted: September 01 2005 at 11:33pm

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote metalgirl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2005 at 11:10pm

I think if you look at the New Concepts page, if there's not any info there, at least you can get their number and call them.

www.newconceptshairgoods.com

By the way, welcome to our Yahoo board!  Just between you and me and a million other Internet users... I was getting tired of  only talking to Charlene!   (Just kidding, Char...)

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Metalgirl, can you provide a link to the New Concept Hairgoods class?
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Brandi, I did my first install of Ultratress II wefts a couple weeks ago, I have been talking to the client each week and so far she loves them. I will let you know how it is going over the next few weeks. I did not use any extra glue, I just applied the strips.
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Bridget, when is the Columbus show?

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Thanks Metal!  Yeah, the class is really cheap considering, so I figured I better jump on it. 

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Hi!

The show I went to, they covered the seamless wefts, mega hair fusion, as well as some hair piece applications.

They bought the rights to market 'Mega Hair' which is the oldest fusion system around.  (started in the late 80's)

It was just a 1 day seminar, and not very expensive as far as hair extension classes go.  It was well worth it.  I don't like fusion, so I don't use their mega tips, but I love the seamless and their hair pieces are good too.

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Hey Metalgirl, I'm going to the Columbus Show and taking the New Concepts Seamless System "hand-on-workshop". Is this a fusion method?  How is the hair?  I see that they sell pretipped hair, the 'megatips'.... can you give me some insight??

Thanks! 

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Has anyone tried Ultratress and if so did they like the quality of the hair?
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With the NC seamless, you part the hair, lay the double sided tape down under your part pull some of your natural hair down onto the tape, leaving 1/4"space between the hair you pull down and than stick the seamless ext. (which also has double sided tape) on over that.  There's no extra adhesive used.  You could add a dab of it if you wanted though.

With Ultratress, you are sandwiching your natural hair between two pieces of the seamless, and also using a brush on adhesive, which I found to be extremely messy and a pain to use.

I found that my clients were able to peel apart the ultratress from their hair after a few weeks. 

Haven't tried the NC Seamless, yet, I've been too busy to find the time to do my own hair.

I don't think that it did any damage to get the glue out.  You must use their orange smelling solvent, though.  Getting the glue out of the Ultratress was more challenging because you use so much more of it in the application.  Hoever, the solvent is good, you just need to let it sit on the hair and soften for 15 minutes or so.

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Isn't New Concepts and Ultratress put on the same way?If so  how long did Ultratress last you and did it do alot of damage when you took it out.More than glue???Thank you for your help.
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I am going to have one of my friends help me install the Seamless Wefts on myself sometime this week. 

The quality of the hair seems good, but you never know until you wear it for a while.  I have worn the Ultratress seamless wefts (available through Gemtress) and I really liked that hair quality.

New Concepts says that their tape should hold for 6-8 weeks, but I'm skeptical about that.  I'll try it out and let you guys know how it goes.

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Has anybody tried New concepts tape extensions???What is the quality of the hair?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Save~A~Stray Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2005 at 11:22pm
Metalgirl~I think that would be a good class to take just to know how the template and ordering process works. I have pretty much figured it out myself from the sites I found in the weft/wig making sites I started. I have a Cosmetology license but not a business license or yellow page ad. Will they still not sell to me?


Rae~ You might find these links useful to make your own wig……..I’m into trying it myself. I will sit for hours doing something like this.....I love a challenge!!

This was a thread I started:
http://talk.hairboutique.com/forum/viewthread.asp?forum=AMB_AP934431446&id=7447


These are the best sites I have seen for making your own wig:
WIGMAKING/LACE FRONTS
THE ABC OF WIGMAKING is awesome!! http://www.atelier-bassi.ch/English/Welcome/Welcome.htm
http://wigmasterassociates.com/tut.html
http://www.makeup-fx.com/perukmakeri1eng.html
http://www.cyberparlor.com/lace_fronts.html

LACE FRONTS FINISHED
http://www.beautybymatt.com/Wigs.html


ALTERING WIG TIPS
http://www.alleycatscratch.com/lotr/makingem/Hair/AltWigT.htm

WIGMAKING KITS/TUTORIALS
http://www.mhrw.com/catalog.html
http://www.mhrw.com/w_falls.html


These are interesting threads to follow
PAGE 1 http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=13843&PN=1

PAGE 2 http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=13843&PN=1&TPN=2


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Wow, those are some stringent requirements. So you need to have a salon affiliation as well as a license? Although, I suppose to be a practicing stylist you'd either need to be part of a salon or have a home business.
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If you want to hand make the wig yourself, than you wouldn't need a cosmetology license, but you'd need the knowledge of how how to ventilate hair into a wig cap and access to the supplies. Making a wig by hand would be a very time consuming and difficult process. For the hours spent, you couldn't sell the thing for a high enough price to pay for your time.

You do need a license to order from hair piece companies. These companies like International Hairgoods, New Concepts, Gemtress, and Onrite, they only want to deal with licensed stylists, so they require that you send in a copy of your license, as well as the salon's business license, and your yellow pages ad.

When I want a custom piece, I would send them a mold of my client's head and the specs of the piece and they send it to their factory overseas where it's manufactured within a 6 week time frame.
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Why would you need a cosmetology license to make wigs?


Just looking for a few good hair slaves - is that too much to ask?
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I think most hair piece companies require you to have a license to take thier classes. They show you how to custom design them, but not actually make them by hand. That would be too time consuming anyway. You send them your design specs, and their company overseas makes the product and sends it to you.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote zapevaj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 11 2005 at 2:15pm
I've been wanting to learn how to make hairpieces, actually- especially lace fronts. Do you have to have a CA license to tke that class? And how much is it?

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This past weekend I went to LA to take New Concept Hairgoods class on extensions and hair pieces. NC has some really nice lace fronts wigs and integrations. As with most hair piece companies, you can send them your specs and they can custom build a hair piece to suit your needs. I had them make me a custom integration where I had them put in a side part and had them use 22" hair. It took about 6 weeks to make, but it was nice. I wore it for a while, but eventually ended up giving it to a client/friend who has trichotillamania (obsessive hair pulling disorder)

Anyway, we also got to play around with their version of the seamless extension. Those are the hair strips that have hair injected in a thin strip of polyurthane. Anyway, you apply then with some double sided white liner tape and the company says they should stay in the hair for 6-8 weeks.

I ordered myself a set of hair, and should receive it on Monday. I'm going to put them in myself, or get my Mom or husband to help. The application is really easy, so I'm sure I could do it myself.

I'll post some pictures for you guys when I get the hair in, and we'll see if they really last 6-8 weeks in the hair.
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