Headscarves and Veiling

I know it is a sidetrack but I have to wade in on this one. My generation was on the cutting edge of feminism and I would say that there are a lot of us out here that feel like that has gotten us nothing but grief. If you talk to a lot of women in their forties many are divorced and full of regrets. Being treated equally is fine and it is good that we are protected by the law, but I wonder if trying to wield the same type of power as a man when in a relationship isn't a terrible mistake. There are different types of "power" in the male/female relationship and I would call myself submitted, not submissive, which is a bit different. I choose to make my husband the head of our family. It works much better that way when raising kids, conducting business, and in keeping us solid. Believe me, I get my way with him and I am much more successful using more traditional feminine methods than by going head to head with him. That doesn't mean that I treat him like he is stupid or anything and that I don't stand my ground when I feel it is necessary but I think in the family sense, the man should be the head of the household. That also means that I have to trust him in every way. Not always easy but I try to live by the golden rule so he can trust me. I believe I am getting as good as I give.

Men and women are just different. It is a mistake to lump us into one category. Each sex has different things to offer so the differences are good and balanced.

In the workplace it is a different matter. I have never felt discriminated against (computers and healthcare) or that I was treated differently than the men I worked with (actually sometimes I was treated better, especially when traveling). But then, I wish I didn't have to work at all. My children would have been better off being raised by me than by a series of nannies and daycare providers but that is what the women's movement bought me. A load of regret! I can't get the time back now but I am fortunate to be able to continue my career as a telecommuter so I am home all the time. Everything in life is a tradeoff. Be sure you don't make the wrong trade.

I would rather be a woman than a man any day. Their roles have gotten totally confusing and they are blamed for EVERYTHING these days!

OK, enough of the rant.

That is the biggest myth of all, that women get paid less than men for the same job.

Yes women on average make less than men, women are more inclined to interrupt their carrers to take time off of work with kids and be stay at home moms. Also women have a tendency to go into fields that pay less on average than men,
but every credible study shows that women with the same amount of education and work experience as men in the same occupation make about the same amount of money.

Women do have equality by law Kuroneko in western countries.

In fact we have even more than that, in some cases we even get affirmative action. We also get custody of children in 90% of the cases.

Women pretend like we can't do what we want, but in reality, western women do pretty much anything we want. I know I do what I want. No one stops me really from doing whatever I like,(within the law that is!!!).

This whole submissive/dominant thing that VeiledLady is refering to is voluntary, and alot of it is based on her sexual/sensual predilictions. Some women get a charge out of that, it makes them feel feminine and sexy.

I'm not judging you Veiled Lady, I didn't mean to do that.

To each their own, everyone has their own style!

Well, I like the idea that veils keep men from looking at you as a sexual object all the time, but I wouldn't wear them myself. I'm just not into anything meant to make women subservient or keep them in a traditional role, in any way.

I often wear headscarves but mainly for fashion reasons. I don't wear Muslim headscarves but many of the Muslim ladies I see do look very modest and feminine in their scarves. It does look lovely.




There is some suspicion, unfortunately of women wearing Muslim style headscarves today, which is really too bad and unfair to Muslims who are not even remotely connected to terrorism or radical Islamic religion.