about the herbs being safe .. the 4 main ones should be ok for most people to take. Saw palmetto is used to help prevent hair loss and to prevent prostate problems in men, fenugreek is used in indian cooking, fennel is used in sausage and as a seasoning, wild yam is used in creams and in birth control pills. As for trying to get breast enlargement pills off the market, they also want diet pills off the market too becasue of the false claims. grow 2-3 cups sizes in 3 months, lose 50 pounds in 2 weeks, is not realstic and people keep waisting thier money on this junk, thats why they want this stuff off the market.
Tina was being silly with you Allie, that is obvious isn't it.
Tina, some people can't tell when you are kidding with them. Uzma, myself and a few others, like maybe Sophie and Jacqui, can tell when you are goofing around because we have chatted with you and know your humour. This lady Allie seems very serious, and doesn't seem to get your obvious kidding. By the way Tina, I can tell when I am talking to a tough little lady. Now way Tina will I pick a fight with you! I believe you when you say you are tough. I can tell by the way you take people on here on HAIR TALK!! ( Ha ha!!!)
Grrrrrrrr!!!!! I'm showing you my teeth allie!!!!! Grrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!! C'mon allie. What is wrong with you girl????? Why won't you fight me????? LET'S RUMBLE!!!!!!! LET'S GET IT ON!!!!!
"And let me tell you allie darling, I've got more brains in the tippy-tip of my little finger than you have in your whole big head allie dearest!!! What's up with you anyway girlie always giving me a bad time! "
Now that is uncalled for and childish. You don't know if you've "got more brains" than I do. And I never implied that you're less intelligent than I am,so please refrain from personally insulting me.
Firstly,just so I'm not misunderstood I never inferred that Tina did not have a brain. I inferred that anyone who does not check with their doctor and make sure they're not allergic to the pills,only has half a brain.
"why do women feel they need to enlarge their breasts? What makes women believe men like women with large breasts? "
Well,gosh,I have the answer right here:
" Unless a woman is freakishly small . . . "
Comments like that. No woman's breasts are "freakish". But,unfortunately,many women feel that their's are because what's seen as "small" today is not small. Also, why any woman would want to increase their breasts size is nobody else's business.
"There are as many men who like petite women as women who have oversized breasts. "
A man's sexual preference is just that. His sexual preference and it does not always apply to the way women feel about their breasts. I'd like firmer breasts, because I think they'd look better that way and when you look better,you feel better. It has nothing to do at all with what anyone else sees as attractive. That's the same thing as a man who prefers obese women asking a woman who's on a diet why she's trying to lose weight,when there's tons of men out there who prefer chubby women. This also explains why some women feel they must look good/better for the oposite sex. Because men automatically assume that when a woman get implants it's for them.
"The herbal pills themselves may not be life-threatning but in combination with other drugs or substances they might be. "
And this is very true,which is why I stated that before using those types of pills(or any pills) you need to check with your doctor.
I agree with what you said Brent and Amanda, thanks! allie, if I needed bigger jugs,-(which I don't)-, I would rather have breast implants where the surgery has a 99.99999 % survival rate than experiment with these stupid, over the counter, herbal, quack, medicines or whatever they are, where you don't even know what you are getting!
And let me tell you allie darling, I've got more brains in the tippy-tip of my little finger than you have in your whole big head allie dearest!!! What's up with you anyway girlie always giving me a bad time!
Maybe it's time you and I had it out girlie! C'mon allie, PUT UP YOUR DUKES GIRLIE!!! Let's GET IT ON!!! WE WILL SEE WHO IS LEFT STANDING AT THE END OF OUR LITTLE CATFIGHT!!!!! -(hint-It WILL NOT BE YOU!)-.
I must warn you allie, I am a black belt in the martial arts!!!!!!!!!!
Actually in some states they are attempting to ban certain types of breast enhancement pills and other types of non-regulated herbal products, including my home state of California. Many want the industry regulated as the perscription drug industry is regulated. The herbal pills themselves may not be life-threatning but in combination with other drugs or substances they might be.
Tina does have a brain Allie, she is one of the brighter people on this website, I know this from numerous conversations I and others have had with her. Tina's advice is well taken. The herbal medicinal industry is an industry that has no regulatory oversite. You just don't know what you are getting when you buy the product. It may not even be what it says on the package since many of these herbal manufactorers are fly by night operations, here today, gone tommorrow. I know I would never ingest that sort of product.
The bigger issue here though is; - why do women feel they need to enlarge their breasts? What makes women believe men like women with large breasts? My wife is petite and has beautiful petite breasts. There are as many men who like petite women as women who have oversized breasts. Unless a woman is freakishly small she shouldn't even consider any form of breast enhancement.
Some of the herbs are totally safe, but I have read about other ones that are really dangerous and can mess up your hormones, and they can cause cancer... Black Cohosh, for instance, one of the common ingredients, is meant for menopausal aged women, but in women who are much younger, it can cause really bad side effects... Also, other ingredients have been known to cause cancer, acne, hair loss, etc... It basically messes with your hormones a lot... Although, as I did mention earlier, Fennelseed, which is suppose to be very high in phytoestrogens, is something you find very commonly on foods, such as sausage pizza... As I also recall reading, a lot of the ingredients in the pills are really just fillers... the companies add the extra herbs (which can be dangerous) to make the product sound better, and more exotic... Also, in diet pills, many of them contain Ephdra... which causes a lot of heart problems - it gives you that shaky, jittery feeling... It has caused strokes and heart attacks, etc... And some companies claim their product is 'ephedra' free.... and what they don't tell you, is that they put in either ephedrine or guarana instead.... which are basically other forms of ephedra... I would also like to add... that what doesn't cause cancer? makeup, haircolor, and many, MANY other consumer products have ingredients that have carcinogens, which cause cancer....The herbicide they spray on your fruits and veggies... Even peanut butter has been said to be something that can potentially cause or promote cancer growth... However, I do agree that people should be extra cautious when taking herbal supplements that are not approved by the FDA... I mean, a lot of illegal drugs are essentially herbs too... Just because something isn't illegal, doesn't mean there are no bad side effects... But that also doesn't mean that there are no good herbal supplements... for example, ecinaciea (spell?) is something a LOT of people take to prevent getting sick... But definately be careful, and if you aren't sure, ask your doctor first...
We're talking about breast enhancement pills. Nobody has ever died from breast enhancement pills. Ever. Unless they were allergic. People have died from surgery. It doesn't matter what kind. Anytime you cut somebody open with a scalpel you're endangering their life. Nobody is trying to get breast enhancement pills banned and if they are,it will never happen. At most, breast enhancement pills contain a combination of herbs that have never been proven to harm anyone's health. It's true, just do a little research on it. I think it's absolutely silly to say that you're risking your life if you take them. Anybody with half a brain knows that before you start taking ANY pill you talk to your doctor about it and make sure you are not allergic to it.
Then why is the AMA, and many consumer advocate groups trying to get these products banned? And why have so many deaths been attributed to them? And why do most doctors strongly suggest you don't experiment with these products? And because these products are unregulated, how did we know if information about them is accurate? And how do these concentrated products mix with other things we ordinarily eat and drink? Just about never does anyone die from breast enhancement surgery in this country. Thousands die each year from "quack" medicines, so called "herbal supplements", "diet supplements" and the like. So who is being ridiculous?
I'm not suggesting that people should get breast implants. There can be problems with that. Maybe more people should be satisified with themselves the way they are.
But experimenting with any type of untested, unregulated product sold by unqualified shucksters and con artists with little or no experience or training in medicine isn't the answer. Don't be naive about the money and political games behind this industry.
I don't think that's entirely true. And I don't think I was wrong,either. If you're using the product the way it's meant to be used,you're in good health,you ask your doctor about it beforehand, then you'll most likely be ok. And, I'm sorry,but surgery of any kind is not alot safer than breast enhancement pills. I think it's ridiculous to say otherwise. All you have to do is read the ingredients and do a little research on it.
I might also state that it can cause damage to people of any age, not just old people or unhealthy people. We have all read about superbly healthy sports men and women who were in perfect health dying from taking this garbage. Other young people in their twenties, thirties or even younger have died.
Others hurt their health with this stuff and don't die right away but die prematurely years later from this stuff also.
Wrong Allie. All kinds of stuff, including "herbal" stuff is sold at so called "health food stores", or on the internet, that can cause serious health problems.
The government basically has the attitude, try these products at your own risk. It isn't regulated like pharmaseudical drugs are. There is no serious testing or regulation done on herbal medicine or numerous other products sold at these stores. Concentrated amounts of herbs mixed with other ingredients in everyday diets can cause harmful health effects leading to many deaths each year in the U.S. alone.
Some of the so called "diet supplements" sold at "Health Food Stores" actually have caused cancer, stroke, heart disease, heart attacks and deaths. Body building supplements also are very dangerous. This has been well documentated by people in the medical profession and others who are trying to stop this junk from being sold to gulliable consumers.
It is a completely untested and unregulated business. You are playing Russian roulete. The government even admits it is unregulated and untested by qualified experts. Some responsible people in Congress are attempting to shut these products and stores down, but these supplemental products interests have very strong lobbies in Washington throwing alot of money around influencing other polticians. It is sickening the corruption,-( another reason I hate politics and politicians so much!!!)-
As dramatic as surgery for breast enhancements may sound, it is actually far safer than experimenting, -(in an unregulated way without a doctor's guidance)-, with any product at these so called "Health Food Stores". Most people who eat healthy and/or organic food avoid these so called "Health Food Stores supplements" or internet supplements and "herbal supplements", "diet supplements", etc. like the plague. So do people in the medical profession.
This stuff could hurt you now or it could hurt you in a cummulative way years later. Don't be gulliable or naive about the shysters and con artists out there selling bad stuff. They care about money,, not people. They are like the criminal element-(or worse since they aren't just stealing your money they are potentially messing with your health)-. They are making a huge amount of money off of selling this garbage. Avoid these products. It isn't worth it! It isn't worth putting your health at risk!!!
I don't think it's ever been proven/disproven that they increase your risk of cancer( or anything else). It's true that just because they're herbs and all natural they're not completely safe. But this only applies to those who're allergic,already have health conditions,or if you're taking large doses and mixing certain herbs together. I would advise people to use/try them, before turning to something as drastic as surgery anyway. The pills that are sold and already contain various herbs are not damaging to your health,I'm sure. If they were and if there was an immediate risk or anything negative resulting in the consumption of them,then they would not be sold.
I don't advise anyone to use these enlargement pills. I was on a brand called LaFemme for 8 months and i didn't notice a difference. In fact, afterwards i read (from several different sources) that these pills can increase your chances of getting cancer, even though they are made up of "natural herbs". These herbs won't hurt you if taken seperately, but when mixing them together they can cause harm. (think back to high school chemistry). They make your hormones go all wonky...sometimes causing rapid cell division. (not good) anyways, this is just my opinion, but don't say i didn't warn you:)
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