I tried a CWC yesterday too and I was like don't rinse out the first conditioner, but I was reading how long to leave the conditioner on and it said rinse well so I rinsed without thinking.
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Sigh...i did the CWC yesterday and i just remembered i rinsed the first conditioner out. i guess i have to post a note on sth on my bathroom wall to remind me
We all might as well answer the question for Anais. =P She uses the wet combing method to dry her hair straight. She air dries her hair, but combs it with a wide tooth brush (Rachel) every 5 minutes.
=P I think that I've read Anais's posts and e-mails way too often. ^^
hi anais-thanks for clarifying the difference between "CO" and "CWC"...i too, can be hopeless like renee. =)
you're a handwriting analyst?! that sounds cool! you must totally love your job huh?
i have a personal question for you, if you don't want to answer, its okay. b/c under location, you have "bill gate's backyard", are you by chance living in washington? dumb question, yes?
anyway, i will do the "CWC" this evening. i can't imagine washing my hair w/just conditioner, my scalp would be SO oily. eewww. =(
do you use any heat to straighten your hair? or is your naturally straight?
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Lol...i tried the two methods sometime ago and i did both methods wrong. With the condtioner wash, i just used one conditioner, rinsed it out and styled as usual. With the CWC, i rinsed out the condtioner before shampooing. God im so hopeless with things like this. Ill try it again. The CWC i mean
Thanks a bunch for your compliment! I am a researcher (unprofessional) and it's a big hobby of mine. Actually I'm a handwriting analyst and humor writer for a local paper. I just happen to cruise these hair boards a lot. Fun to help people out. :)
Cmsweet is referring to what we call "CO" or "Conditioner Only".
That is different from the "CWC" method ("Condition, Wash, Condition"). The CWC works exceptionally well for Asian hair in my opinion, while the CO does not. The reason for this? typical Asian hair is VERY porous compared to other types of hair, so lots of conditioner residue gets caught in the hair shaft in between the cuticle scales or "microscopic shingles" on the hair shaft. I just don't feel that clarifying rinses, like vinegar, are enough to remove it all from Asian hair.
CO/Conditioner-Only: "washing" like you would with shampoo, except you'd be using a very light conditioner like V05 Kiwi Lime or Freesia. Or White Rain Extra Body. Then you'd finish off with your usual conditioner. The cheapie conditioner replaces the shampoo. Along with coarse hair, Asians also tend to have bigger pores, making us more susceptible to breakouts on the scalp IMHO. CO requires putting conditioner on the scalp, which deposits plastic ingredients or otherwise occlusive materials in the scalp's pores and hair roots.
CWC/Condition-wash-condition (invented by dear Martine): Just like CO, except you'd use shampoo in between the conditioners. Wet your hair first, apply cheapie conditioner, DON'T RINSE, shampoo the scalp and let the lather rinse down the length, rinse out shampoo, apply usual condioner and do a final rinse.
In a CWC, oil can be applied to dry hair. but not the cheapie first-conditioner.
When you do conditioner washes, you just use conditioner. You can add oil to your conditioner but after that you just wash it out. NO SHAMPOO is used during a conditioner wash. When you add oil to the conditioner wash, it helps to trap the moisture into your hair.
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hi anais-thanks again for responding. =) do you answer all questions throughout these message boards? i'm just wondering b/c your'e name is comes up quite frequently. how do you know so much about hair? are you a hair stylist?
and don't worry about the "CWC" method. i'm sure there are lots of tips and info i can find. i did have one dumb question for you today though...you know when you do the "CWC" method, do you wet your hair first, then apply the cheapy conditioner/oil? or do you apply it to dry hair, then wash out w/shampoo? i thought about that this morning and maybe i'm doing it wrong.
have a great weekend! and by the way, i LOVE your picture. its so unique and elegant.
Whooo I was in a hurry responding to your post earlier. It was fragmented and crappy.
Thanks for your compliment! YES, Martine's elaborate condition-wash-condition method... THAT HELPED THE MOST WITH FRIZZ, AND I CAN'T BELIEVE I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT!! Sorry sweetie.. Well, the CWC instructions are everywhere so I hope they help you at least by a bit. Frizz is sometimes from lack of moisture as well, and the double-conditioning helps immensely.
I have 5 minutes to sort through mucho other replies and check email...
Hugs, Anais
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hi anais! thank you for replying. i was afraid no one was going to respond to my post. but thank you so much!
you know, the "wet comb" method is something i tried years ago. it did not do much for me. yes, my hair dried and it stayed put, however my hair became a bit "fuzzy" and "poufy".
i didn't realize the heat from the straightening iron causes damage too. i hear a lot about how it doesn't cause damage if you do it quickly. like, run the iron down the hair shaft quickly. maybe that might be something i need to sacrifice later...
i will try the micro-fiber towel you mentioned. i didn't know that if your hair dries unevenly it causes frizz too...sorry, i am so clueless about these things.
i checked out the link you included...it didn't quite help too much...but it was informative. =) thanks.
i did check out some other posts that you replied to. and one of them was the steps on how you wash your hair. like you use coconut oil before shampooing or use a cheapy conditioner then shampoo it out and then condition again. i think i'll try that tonight.
thanks for the tips! if i have any more hair issues can i post again?
jodi
p.s. your hair looks beautiful! i should post a picture of my hair. then you'll see how horrible it is.
First thing to do is quit using heat. Heat warps hair proteins and causes uneven wave, dryness, frizz, etc.. so it''s a neverending cycle.
but if you''re happier using a straightener, I''m not stopping ya.
My wet combing method isn''t "straightening", per se, but it''s the only thing I do. It involves combing wet hair with a seamless comb, every 5-10 minutes until it is completely dry. I know this sounds too easy, and it is, but basically... Hair will dry in the position it''s in while it''s wet. I basically force it to dry straight.
This wet combing method doesn''t work if you don''t already have reasonably "straight" hair.
The other thing you can do is get a super absorbent towel (microfiber towel). If hair dries unevenly, it might wave or frizz as well.
I''ve posted briefly about it here, but you can reply if you need more info: posted on 25-Aug-2004 12:06:55 PM subject: how can i mak my thick tong hair staight all day
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