Mocha, even if the GHD iron is hot enough to fry the thermofiber, it
might not be hot enough for a heat seal. I tried to do that with
PH, but my iron wasn't hot enough (so I bet my iron wouldn't even fry thermo). It trashed the bit of hair
without actually melting it. Maybe thermo just isn't meant for
heat seals?
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Back when I was desperate and used to buy from them, they didn't carry 101 or 909. They started that about 5 yrs ago or so with that stuff. They used to just carry hair like H & H - graded and priced according to grade, length, etc. For some reason, the first batch I ever bought from them was so awesome I could not believe my eyes. It lasted for MONTHS and looked and felt great. From then on, it was one terrible batch after another. It was from them that I bought the hair that LITERALLY turned into a rat's nest as I walked down the street...it would bunch up underneath in a matter of minutes! It was a nightmare. I tried to return the remaining hair and I was in tears. The cow that worked there just laughed, literally laughed at me! Return it? What would they do with it? Well, I had a few suggestions about what they could do with it.
Since then, I've only bought supplies there and some synth, which was nothing special either. I've since seen 2 people come in (different days) just madder than a wet hen cuz their hair was trash and they paid, you know, a hundred something dollars for it! I didn't pay too much attention, but it must have been 101 or 909 cuz it came in bags like that. And the people who work there just stared at the customer as if they were speaking Martian.
Syren & Metalgirl: I've been hearing a lot of bad things about
hairpiece's HH lately, so I'm not surprised. Has the quality
deteriorated, or has it always been crap? I used to hear good things
about their 101 and 909, but I never do anymore. :)
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Ohgawd, Metalgirl...not only is their hair complete garbage, they KNOW it and don't give a rat's a$$. They knowingly continue to sell that trash and you have absolutely no recourse whatsoever. They have a million different labels, brands, grades, price ranges, whatever, and every bit of it is rubbish. And you have no way of knowing until you try it.
Shel, you've been a cool customer through all of hotdog's baiting. Don't worry: there have been trolls here before - once they're outed, no one pays any attention.
I for one appreciate your honesty about your experieces with a particular vendor. Many, if not most, of us have been burned one way or another by a hair vendor and sometimes there is just no way to know beforehand that the vendor is scum until you're in the thick of it. Hey; I bash hairpiece.com at every opportunity and it has no impact on their business whatsoever. Some people are satisfied customers (til they buy their hair), so my sharing of my repeatedly bad experiences with them are just that - my experience only. But...forewarned is forearmed.
The restraint you showed with hotdog is admirable. Don't worry about it any more. She's known for what she is.
for the record...i only reported details of a personal experience which i still stand by very strongly as i feel the company in question was rude, unprofessional, not interested and legally in the wrong and wanted to warn other people of my bad experience.
Whether all the ebay customers get preferential treatment (coz they can post a neg feedback! and i actually order by phone and paid by credit card!) or that the company just doesnt want to have to refund for faulty goods then who knows? But for sure it is negligent and unprofessional! I DO NOT wish any carry on through this board especially through the company that ripped me off! They have no place to question my anger! Which remind me, they havent replyed to my letter!
I wish to continue using this board to help and discuss products, methods, good & bad companies etc and dont wish predudice for it. Especially by the negligent company! If the company in question has a problem then they can write to me directly re this.
My letter is the one heading...DISTANCE SELLING REGULATIONS...etc!!!!!!!! Im sure you can find it in your file as it was sent by recorded post.
NO MORE POSTS RE THIS!
(sorry lady's had to get this off my chest!)
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na, when you become so used to something, you stop even thinking about it. If I had thermofiber in I probably wouldnt pay attention to the temps of my tools either. it happens :) - at least now you'll help other people because they will double check the temps of their tools before using
Mochachip.... GHD is a company well known over here in the UK and has fab straightening irons. (Everyone loves them but at around £100 each they are quite expensive). They have the highest temerature that i know of.
I put the synthetic thermofibre extensions in to try them out for a customer who was thinking of getting them installed. She wanted to know how they coped with all normal wear and as i hadn't tried the hair before i told her i would try some myself then let her know. As GHD straighteners are very popular over here (and most people use them) I thought i would give it a try (Even though i knew the thermofibre can only withstand 180 degrees) so i could tell her my experience.
God i feel i have to explain myself big time!
EDITED TO SAY......MOCHACHIP Im so so sorry if you read my above comment and though i meant you! Hell no, chick! I mean "God i feel i have to explain myself big time" is refering to this hot dog lady who was is on a mission to distry all of my posts.
I was just reading it back there and realised this. Sorry chick - that comment is for hotdog (lol)
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[QUOTE=hotdog]This is the first thing that I was taught about synthetic
hair. You cannot use metal curling tongs on it, and you cannot
use metal straighteners. It seems a shame that you forgot
this...[/QUOTE=hotdog]
Nah. Although this is true of most synth, the new thermofibers are
designed to withstand higher temperatures, which is why Shel was
experimenting with these tools; I'm sure she didn't "forget." Hell,
I've even curled high-quality monofiber (although I admit this is
somewhat risky) with a low-temp curling iron, and it didn't fry the
hair.
[QUOTE=hotdog]"...synthetic Profibre Hair, (which is the highest grade
of synthetic hair), even so it can't take that sort of heat."
[/QUOTE=hotdog]
If the Profiber hair, which I believe you sell on eBay, is comparable
to Prostyles (and just to clarify, it is not actually the Prohair hair
that's sold by the Prostyles company--although the name is somewhat
misleading), then no, it would not be thermofiber. The quality is not
very much the issue; it's the melting temperature that more relevant
here. FYI: Some popular thermofiber brands include WaWa, AD Therm (what
Shel is using), Hot Stuff Fusion, OPH, Freetress Futura, and Ebonyline
Adore.
I'm not trying to start, or continue to, any drama here, but it
seems obvious from your past few posts that you have a vendetta against
Shel, which is causing you to be rude and insulting to her. For the
record, this is not the place to air your greviances.
This is the first thing that I was taught about synthetic hair. You cannot use metal curling tongs on it, and you cannot use metal straighteners. It takes a long time to put synthetic in, especially if you are using the plaiting, winding, heat clamp method, which is the most popular way for synthetic ******, (which is the highest grade of synthetic hair), even so it can't take that sort of heat. They havn't come up with any synthetic hair yet that can take such a high temperature.
If I put ****** extensions in a client's hair I always tell them to straighten their own hair, at the top, and let the ****** air dry naturally, that way you don't frazzle the ****** by mistake.
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it can only withstand a certain temperature and i frazzled it by an extra 40 degrees. I think ill give my hair a break before i re-install as its starting to get to a length i like
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