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    Posted: May 30 2005 at 8:44pm
Well, according to Serina, shedding is normal. The hair is doubled over - that's why it's soooo thick. I've been alternating Dome Care and Flasher spray both, and I put in some Biosilk every other day or so on the ends. I've completely washed it once and am going to wash it again tonight.

So far I've lost 6 braids. As I have said before, my hair is very fine and slick, so i'm not surprised some have slipped out. I'm not too worried about it, actually.

What I want to tweak is first the color - not so overall dark next time. Way more colors. Next, not so much hair. It's just too much! I like it really long, but not so thick it takes two hands to go around it. Not so much hair, and more layering. Also, I'd like the braids themselves to be smaller - more like the pictures Sara posted of what she did on her friend, and Boogiemama's. Tiny. And I'll pay for that.

Overall, I'm pretty happy, but I'm never completely happy with anything so that's normal. It's true what someone said a while back - synth never feels like hh but it looks better. I agree with that.

Thanks everyone for your concern! Hey. I'm just glad I'm able to be in the game.
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So you think it's actually snapping off? Wow. The synth seems pretty sturdy to me in that regard. Are they doubled over, Syren? Or just overlapped 1 1/2 inches or so? Have you washed it yet?

I like Dome Care the most for brushing, but that Flasher spray is good too. One thing I have noticed is that the PH is a bit tangly before you wash it, but less so afterward.

What other things do you want to tweak, Syren?

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Well, you should be using -some- products to help with brushing- just like human hair needs a conditioner, synth does too. I understand that you probably want to put the hair through its paces, but brushing it without any of the recommended products means that it is almost -certain- that it will underperform.

Also...did Serina give you any care recs for synth hair, or are there any on her site? Because god forbid anything goes wrong- but if it does, and you haven't followed her care instructions, then you're legally not allowed to say anything against her installation, because you didn't follow proper care procedures. Kinda like if you didn't get your car's oil changed, ever, and then the car died- you couldn't sue the car company, because you didn't take care of the car like they told you to in the manual.

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Hm. I do brush but not overly roughly - I mean, I start at that bottom and work my way up and try to be somewhat gentle. The shed hair is the same length as the length of my hair, so it must be breaking off like you said. But also, if I pull on the ends of my hair, hair just pulls right out - I mean, it's shedding! Also, I lost another braid today for a total of 4. It's been one week since it was put in.

The braids are not particularly small, not small like Boogiemama's. Some braids do have big strands, mostly on the bottom, and the ones at and near the top are medium sized.

I'm just going with whatever is going on. As I said, this is my first time with PBs and PH. I already have a list of things I'm going to change on my next install, so meanwhile, I'm just letting this one do as it will. That way, I have a better idea of what to do and what to expect next time.
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Syren- are you brushing quite a lot, or very roughly? The synth can often snap off if you yank too hard on it.

Also, yep, losing a small amount of braids is fine. It doesn't always happen- just some braids are not quite as tight and perfect as the others, or have a bit more hair in them, or whatever. My last two HH pinchbraids installs lost 6 braids and 3, respectively, and 3 or 6 out of 100+ is not even noticeable. Never had anyone mention shedding, though. What products are you using to aid in brushing? Your braids -are- really small, right? (I can't recall if you posted photos of your scalp.)

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heehee - i know. i'm already itching for my third at 4 weeks! i have the fever, i tell 'ya

second:

http://www.hairboutique.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=30467& amp; amp;PN=1&TPN=1

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http://www.hairboutique.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28984& amp; amp;KW=heather+from+atlanta

i had my friend help me take down the first set because i have to drive about 3 hrs to see heather and i figured i'd save time that way...my friend, ahem, did a fairly fabulous job but kinda hacked in a few areas...the removal is fairly booby proof as long as you cut the string with a razor OVER THE SYNTH and not your  own hair lol.

 



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Oh right - the string. Forgot about that. Yes, it's right where yours is - at the base of the braid, and it is just like you said - a tight tight band.

You're right. She would probably like the feedback, so I'll give her a call this weekend.

Cheryl, did you say you've had 2 installs with Heather? I only recall seeing pictures of one...what gives?!
And did you take down your entire head of PBs yourself?
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hmmm. i see syren. the shedding thing is really not typical of my experience at all - even when i brush rigorously i don't have any shedding. i like jenny am confused  - where's the string? for comparison my string is like a tight tight band at the base of the braid which even when i try to wiggle it with my fingernail doesn't budge. when i took out my last install the only way was to cut the suckers with a razor.

i guess my point about calling serina is - the PH is new for her, too huh? i'm sure she'd want to know how to tweak for future installs. i think most stylists like the feedback - she may have an idea about tweaking your current install. also i think you look lovely and not vampirish at all...although vampirish is kinda kinda vogue right now (a la angelina jolie) lol.

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I've only lost one pinch braid in a total of a year and a half of wearing them, and that was a large braid attached to an area of my head where my hair is a bit thinner.  The only shedding I've had is from that particular braid before it fell out.  But never again did I have shedding or lose one.  That doesn't seem normal.
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Hmm. This is all very interesting information. I see that a few PBs coming out is somewhat normal, but no one experienced shedding, eh? That's what's got me stumped.

Last night I washed my hair and blew dried it to make it silky - it was getting rough from a week of wear and spray. That went well. But I did lose another PB for a total of 3. The one I lost last night was from the bottom and was a big strand, so Norskygirl's right about the big strands coming out. The other 2 were medium sized and from the middle of my head. I think I'm not that concerned about the braids coming out now as I am about the shedding.

You guys, it's unreal. I can run my hand thru my hair and pull out a clump of hair every time, and from every part of my head. It's shedding just as a weft would - a little bit but consistently. Because the hair is sooo thick it isn't making a difference, but it's annoying and messy and I don't dig it.

This is my first install with PBs and with PH, so it's certainly a learning experience. Everything about it needs tweaking next time, from the braids themselves to the amount of hair to the placement and even the colors! My mom said it was vampire-ish. Like that's a bad thing. But I do think next time there will be more colors, like 5, and all lighter (no more kaffee, for instance).

I don't think I'll call Serina - what can she do, really? Next time I'll ask her to do the braids a different way is all.

Thanks for all the great input, gals. Meanwhile, I'm back to shedding.
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When I used to get a 3/4 head of PB's (anything ranging from 65 to 80 braids) I would lose an average of 1 to 2 during the course of the 10 weeks before my next install. I think this is for two reason: 1) I used a boar bristle brush on mine and widetooth combs and I was definitely a frequent styler, although I only washed every couple days. 2) I preferred my braids to not be tiny. The bigger the braid, the more likely to slip. I have found the little ones are usually in the hair so good they are hard to even get out some times!!

99% of the time IF I did lose one, I would feel them slipping or they would slide down a couple inches and I would remove them myself using a cuticle scissors. I have never had any actually flop out, but there was one time when I looked down and my braid had slid all the way down so it was level with my cheek!! The way I look at it, I would prefer my stylist to put them in her normal way (and lose a few) versus putting them in SOO tight my head hurts for a week after install and/or little bald spots.  Oh, and my PB's NEVER shed. Maybe a single strand every two weeks, not even kidding!!

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Syren.  I think it's reasonable to expect to lose maybe 5 braids over the course of the install.  Not that you should expect it.  Just think.  You've got 200 braids in your head.... If they're all coming out in the same place, I'd say your extensionist was standing at a weird angle or something.  For pinchbraids to work, you have to be paying attention to all the details.... Body position, amount of hair, balance of hair in the braids etc. etc.  The braids also have to Not be so tight that they pull the hair out of your scalp and leave a bald patch.  Yikes.

     Do you have a friend that can put them back in for you?

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Mocha, I have shedding with the Wawa wefts. Not a troublesome amount, but comparable to regular human shedding while brushing. It kind of creeps out my friend when he'll go to pluck a hair off my shirt or something and realize it's fake hair. I guess just because it seems like such a "natural" hair kind of behavior, but it's not my natural hair.
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Whoa...that's weird. I *never* have any shedding, and have only lost one pinchbraid in a whole year (I think the string just snapped on that one). This is by far the most secure method I've tried.

Where is the string in all of this? :)
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aw crumbcakes syren - can ya call serina, i mean perhaps this is just how your hair will start off with a few loose ones, but hella shedding seems too much? serina may have some advice or be able to help - customer service, yes? some hair folks have a certain amount of time that they'll fix stuff- usually first couple weeks?

crap. is it all over or just the ones at your nape?

best of luck -

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I don't know, girls. I'm having hella shedding right now.
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That's interesting, I was practicing pinch braids for about an hour today just thought I would give it a try. I did three strands and crosed m the hair in to one of the synth strands. when I gave a good yank to the ends 2 of 6 came out.I have know idea why more practice I guess! I have to say I used a string of another color if the string matched I'm not sure I would be able to find those suckerskeep us updated I hope the rest stay for ya!
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hey syren - i haven't lost any with heather either (i've had 2 installs with her). i *think* that she does the simple 3 way thing, too. not the blendy bit - hard to tell really? i'll inspect more thoroughly later and update if different. heather did warn me that losing a few is totally normal. when you first said shedding i thought you meant your own hair.
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Mocha, I do have the WaWa wefts but never wore them. So I guess the answer is...I don't know! They seemed to me to be very strong and well sewn wefts. I think a little shedding is normal, but I've had some hh wefts that were practically bare when removed, the hair shed so badly.

Mer, wow. You've never ever lost a pb from those stylists? That's really amazing.

After looking at Rae's tutorial, I think her second method is probably the most secure, and by the looks of it, mine were put in just straight 3 strand, no mixing of my hair and PH in strands.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Longhairdreams Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2005 at 4:33pm
Oh cool.I'm going to give my hair a good long breather for now.But I loved my hair long.So I was thinking if I did strand by strand it would be pinchbraids with plastikhaar.I will probably only use human for clip ins.I think pinchbraids are much more realistic for my type of hair.I get too impatient with the glue.
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