QuoteReplyTopic: Had my Consult Posted: October 11 2005 at 5:20pm
hi guys,
I had my consult yesterday for Great Lengths and am getting them put in next Monday!!. The extensionist was wonderful and her before and afters were impressive.
She is going to use 16' hair in three different colors. The total will be $1800 but i feel it is worth it.
She said because of my a-line bobbed cut she will use about 7 bundles to blend it in and may have to cut some of my own hair through the sides a little to blend. She said she also breaks apart some of the strands so it is not so thick in certain areas of my head.
I get all of the Great Lengths hair products included. I noticed the brush was boar bristle, don't I need a special looped one? And I also forgot to ask her how to wasg my hair before the install? could someone please give me some advice on this? Also , is the Anti tap a must do after each wash? Does it really make a difference? I have a water softener installed in my house..just curious
I wish people were paying me $1800 for extensions! I couldn't charge that much and not feel like I'm ripping the client off.
Anyway, ditto what Marie said, if the stylist said you can wear the extensions for more than 3 months I would reconsider having her do your hair.
Not sure about the anti tap, but if I was spending $1800 on a hair-do that's only going to last 3 months, I'd smear mud on my head every day if that's what the recommended care plan was!
Metalgirl there should be more people like you in this world. I mean extensionist are ripping people off every day. I went the a salon in my area about 2 years back and was quoted 400 for a sew-in, and that's NOT with the hair.
I just try to keep it affordable. I always think about how much I'd be able and willing to pay and then charge accordingly. For any strand applications that I do, the client pays for the hair, which I do not mark up, and then I charge $300-500 for my labor, depending on how big of a job it is. The cost for a full head of strands usually is under $1000, of course unless they want european hair.
Why is it so bad to leave the extensions in for 6 months? I mean what would it physically do to my own hair? She told me 4-6 months for sure. She has them in her own hair and they have been in for 5 months. I didn't think they looked bad at all. Please advise..
thanks girls , this board has been so wonderful .
PS I definetly will take b/a pics to show. It is fun watching others post theirs as well.
K
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Personally I have never been able to go more than 11 weeks with any strand method. Normal wear time for me is around 9 weeks. By that time there is so much new growth, and the bonds are getting too far away from the scalp. The longer they are in the more new growth you have, and the more chances of tangling and matting at the root. Also its easy to catch with your comb/brush and yank em out when brushing...been there done that! And as the natural hair sheds, you have less hair that the extension is atached too, putting stress on the hair that is left supporting the extension. Also the further from the scalp th bond is the more visible they become.
Three months is the MAXIMUM time that I would advise anyone to wear extensions before removing and redoing.
Question...you obviously saw her bonds? So how far away from her scalp were the bonds? At 5 months the had to have been MORE than an inch away from her scalp.
I have great lengths as well and six months is the maximum you get if
you care really well for your hair... at least that´s what my
hairdresser says. of course the bondings grow out and it depends which
ones you have... GL has different ones corresponding to fine and thick
hair. the ones least visible are the ones attached to fine hair and
they are tiny if you cut the bonding in half (my hairdresser did this
on all-ask-maybe she does it for you or you can do it yourself). then
it depends how much hair covers the bondings, if it is very little -
which will probably be the case since you have rather short hair - they
can be seen more easily... so it depends on the styling.
one problem you have if you keep the extensions in too long: the hair
above the bonding gets thinner with the time plus the weight increases
only because the bondings are further away from the hairroot, so the
more time you have the extensions in the more weight the bondings have
to carry. you need to keep your hair really well detangled for this to
work, because with tangles you rip out more hair. never leave cour hair
around the bondings airdry, because this is the way you get most
tangles. think about good conditioners, if you don´t want to use the GL
stuff-for me the kerastase deep conditioning works well. also from time
to time look at the bondings and if you find some where the hair has
really gotten thin above the bonding have it removed by your
hairdresser or you will risk having it pulled out.
last go for cleaning cuts every 6 weeks or so... that way hair gets less tangled as well and you don´t rip it by brushing.
about the brush... the one you have works good for me. always hold you
r hair though when you brush it, so no pressure comes on the bondings...
sorry about my english, I´m from Germany so I´m fighting a little...
have fun with your extensions and please post a picture-I would love to see how it turned out as I have GL myself.
pat
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The reasons you shouldnt leave extensions in your hair for longer then 12 weeks are as follows...
A. It looks bad. The longer the grow out the more visible the bonds are
B. Matting. I usually dont leave my extensions in longer then 2 months then I do a total takedown and redo, and even as anal as I am about detangling and proper washing/conditioning, I still have to pick the mats out like a mofo. There have been several people who came here seeking help because they left their extensions in too long and had terrible matting, and that can cause serious breakage and damage to your hair.
how can the prizes be so different for the same thing
Comission! If someone is working in a salon that is based of comission(let's say 50/50)...they have to mark up in order to make it worth their while. If they charged $400 dollars for labor, they would only get about $200 for their labor...which is ABSOLUTELY not worth it! In that amount of time, generally 4 hours, you would make more doing cuts or color services...plus more heads= more tips!
That reason is why I left my last salon of 5 years to go solo...booth rent. I know for a fact that my old salon will mark up GL hair 100% and he still takes his %55! How's that for rape? Damn bastard!
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I remember my Great Lengths guy & I became friends so he would do them at his house on his day off and charge me about HALF! We both made out because he worked on commission at a Red Door Salon
Anyway, that said, I agree with the other ladies, as your hair gorws, not only will the bond become a little visible, but the stress on your hair may cause breakage. You will be able to judge for yourself hopefully.
Also, have her cut ALL of the bonds. It looks so much better
ETA: My guy would snip them not only in HALF but then snip half off of the TOP too..the bonds would be sooooo tiny! I loved that!
Do NOT leave any kind of extensions in for more than 3 months!
Our natural hair sheds every day, we all know that because we see the hairs in the shower drain, the hair brush, etc. Well, when you have hair extensions in, your natural hair within the bonds still sheds, but can't fall away, since it's bonded with the extension hair. This will cause 2 things to happen if you leave in extensions for more than 3 months:
*Those naturally shed hairs that are caught up in the extension bond will start to form a dread at the root area
*The extension bond after 3 months is now hanging by many fewer hairs per bond because of the hair that's been naturally shed. Let's see, heavy bond dangling by a few hairs, sounds like a good way to get breakage to me...
Your stylist told you the same GL LIE that the company GL trains their people to say, that you can wear these things for a period longer than 3 months.
You see, GL just wants to be able to over charge innocent consumers like you, and the only way to get people to pay these ridiculous prices is to tell them they can keep these extensions in longer than what 'professional' , non GL extensionists agree is safe for the natural hair.
If you wear these things for 4 months, you will see some damage. If you wear these things for 6 months, I'd bet dollars to donuts your natural hair will be a disaster.
Yep! Most any fusion can be left in for a long time. Hell my last set was 1/2 shells 1/2 shrinks and I could have left it in longer but what a mess I would have had!! It was in allmost 3 months and was still going strong and the hair was in great shape to. But I was getting them caught in the brush nad matting was starting. Don't buy the hype!
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well, makes complete sense that no one would sell them as "ok, total price is 1,800.00, and you can only have them for 3 months-at best- then you have to come in and pay me almost that much again to redo them. See you in a few weeks!" The company wouldn't make quite as much that way I assume.
I would run from any stylist who told me to leave extensions of any kind in my hair for 6 months! I don't care how well you care for them, after 3 months the extensions are hanging on to less hair and that will stress the roots and you will eventually end up with bald spots. Your extensions probably means well but obviously is buying into the corporate hype. RUN!
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