QuoteReplyTopic: getting layers??? Posted: November 18 2005 at 1:41pm
Hey everyone!
I've managed to cut down on straightning/blowdrying a bit now, but my hair is so unbelievable damaged and it's making me rather upset. It seems to be breaking off more than it is growing. So, thinking toward my long term goals of waist length+, I'm thinking that I'm going to have to make the most of my natural waves/curls/mess and basically stop using heat. I'm not sure if that'll be enough though, because my hair isn't just damaged at the ends, its everywhere! So that brought me to the subject of getting a "trim" at the hairdressers, hoping that she won't get too scissor happy. Now I'm wondering if getting my hair layered would help get some much needed volume and assist my curl pattern or whatever? Also, when my hair gets longer will this look silly and will it be a pain in the ass to grow out? It's quite a dilema, so I thought I'd ask the experts! Help me please!
Buckie
P.S. My hair naturally (day of wash, air-dried with a little moose)...
Blow-dried on cool setting, slept on and then touched up with my straightner...
Looks soooo much better straight though
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I think layers would be a great idea for your damage issue. I recently had a tramatic hair experience and suffered slit ends, but mostly breakage throughout. My hair dresser cut 1 1/2 inches from the length and cut layers throughout and it got rid of alot of the damage and I still have my lenght!! My hair is Bra strap lenght and my shortest layer is about 5 inches from the length. My hair actually feels normal and silky again. I think the best way to get rid of the breakage for you and still keep relatively long hair is to get some layers. They will also create some bounce and make your hair look nicer when you let it go natural & curly. Also make sure you don't wash your hair very much if it is dry. Try every 3 days if you can last that long, also deep conditioner is a must!! I recommend salon brands - Loreal Professional series Absolut Repair hair mask is great. Do this every time you shampoo and try to leave it in for as long as possible ( if you have the time, put it in and just relax, read, watch tv, do your nails, etc for an hour and then wash out)
Lastly, make sure you go to a hairdresser that you trust. Suggest long layers, because your curls will "spring" up when dried if she cuts your hair when wet.
Hope this helps you! This board has been a big help to me.
As a fellow curly, layers are the only way to go IMO. When my hair is all one length it has that very unattractive "pyramid" look I also agree with noey about it removing damage....that is if most of your damage is on your canopy?
I agree that your hair does look very nice straight, but I think that your preference for having it straight (and not curly) is probably in part due to you not wearing it curly often enough. You need to get good at doing the curly thing. Also, you need to just get used to having it curly and you will be more confident with your curls. There are some great techniques to use in Lorraine Massey's book "Curly Girl". It's worth a read.
It took me a very long time to embrace my curls, but now I would never straighten again. My hair has improved so much from not being exposed to heat, and also through my regular use of henna. I can honestly say that I would not have been able to grow it long had I not changed my attitude in this way.
Hope that helps you in your decision. Good luck!
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Although not curly, my thin, fine, processed hair was totally lifeless at one length. I was THRILLED after I got long layers put back into my hair. She ended up taking about an inch off the length, but it was worth it. I needed it done to add much needed volume.
I agree with the above, long
layers will probably make you most happy (where they don't make the
stuff around your head very short, but do the layers mostly from your
chin down - that way you can still do ponytails and other
upstyles. Long layers are very flattering for curls too, it will
likely bring them out more and look lovely. However, your hair
doesn't seem to get the pyramid shape rini mentioned, so blunt cut
looks fine for you too, its your choice.
Since you want to grow it longer, don't let them do the layers with a
razor. Make sure they use scissors and cut the strands
perpendicular to the hair, not at an angle to the hair.
Perpendicular is best at preventing splits, while the angles and razor
cutting leave the hairs cut with more of the inside exposed, and that
helps it split faster.
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With your hair at its present length, and given your stated goal of waist-length, I would advise against having
a stylist cut layers in your hair. Having the ends of your hair
trimmed (a small bit, every once in awhile) can help you preserve your
sanity as your hair grows out. Also (and importantly), if you're
willing to invest the time into doing many search-and-destroy sessions
to trim off split ends, that will help improve the condition of your
hair a lot... and help you to feel better about your hair. One
more thing - condition, condition, condition!
I hope this helps.
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Hey Dave....just wondering why layers would be a bad idea here? I have them (and would continue to trim them) and I want waist length hair too. Should I be growing them out? Is there something you can tell us here?
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Thanks for replying everyone. Judging by most of your coments, I think I probably will end up getting long layers.
Dave... i do search and destroying a lot, but with my current routine with the straightening and all, the split ends are back before i know it. Do you think the layers are a bad idea in the long run because of how it'll look when it eventually does get long?
Buckie
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Hey Dave....just wondering why layers would be a bad idea here? I have
them (and would continue to trim them) and I want waist length hair
too. Should I be growing them out? Is there something you can tell us
here?
and...
buckyfairy wrote:
Dave... i do search and destroying a lot, but with my current routine
with the straightening and all, the split ends are back before i know
it. Do you think the layers are a bad idea in the long run because of how it'll look when it eventually does get long?
IMO it's perfectly okay to continue to have layers as your hair
grows. It depends on your priorities, too. Some people want
their hair as long as possible as soon as possible. Others want
their hair to be one-length as soon as possible. As
LadyFrog says, "
Entirely personal preference."
I started with short layers, and as it grew I had the shorter layers
trimmed less than the longer ones. The layers weren't gone until
my hair was almost waist length. (Clearly, my preference was for
extra length before "no layers").
With naturally wavy/curly hair, you also get to choose how wavy you
want it to be as it grows and at your goal length. Layers will
enhance the curl; by contrast, blunt-cut waist-lenght hair will "tame"
the curls somewhat. Both looks are great, so it comes down to
what you want.
When you S&D, use a very sharp pair of scissors. Blunt
scissors can indeed worsen the splits. I just did S&D this
weekend for the first time in several months and it took a lot of
time. Just keep at it and in time you'll begin to see the
improvement.
IMO the straightening causes far more damage than blowdrying because
the heat of irons (and conductivity thereof) is far more intense.
If/when you go to a hairdresser, remember that you are the customer and that you should get what you want.
Tell the stylist exactly what you want (ex: 1/2" off the ends of the
longest layer, and just a microtrim of the shorter layers). If
you feel uncomfortable with the stylist honoring your stated request,
don't hesitate to get up and walk out. When she tries to stop
you, tell her you don't feel comfortable that she'll honor your
request, and tell her that you won't pay her if she cuts more than you
asked for.
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