OK, I'm going to whole-heartedly agree with bnbivi00 in the sense that some, not all, chronic posters add nothing to the discussion. They say stuff like "I love it. The best thing since sliced white bread" after every post. I don't care how you feel about each post, I'll form my own opinion, thank you. I don't mind people who post new information or an occassional opinion. Remember an opinion means nothing if it follows each and every post. But the ones that really get me - and to the credit of this board it rarely appears here - is the occassions when someone tries to supply new info and someone jumps on the poster for the info being old. Please that person is only trying to contribute quality information.
I've been villified on some message boards and kicked off of another for saying as much as bnbivi00 has said and it's good to see that I'm alone. So please, bnbivi00, do me a favor and go to ltah and back me on this cause.
And remember, this isn't a contest to see who can get the most posts.
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I am not asking you or anyone to not speak your mind. This is a board where people can speak their mind and that is the whole point of this board. I am just suggesting that you pick your battles. EVERYONE on here knows what you all think about long hair and what others think about short hair. I just choose to let people speak their mind without blasting every subject on this board if they think differently than I do. Don't hate people for wanting to do good and help others out by donating their hair. Don't hate people for wanting to get the message out that people can do this (not forcing them to cut their hair). That is all I am asking.
Let's all agree to disagree and move on.
Dude, that was totally irrelevant to this thread. Pots and kettles?
Back on topic. I'm glad we don't have this so much in the UK (but it *is* increasing) with LoL and whoever else. It's just irritating when people try to force you to donate. I you want to you will. People throw out clothes instead of taking them to charity shops. People throw out their old mobiles instead of donating them to African doctors. People are so wasteful and uncharitable with waste that why should people be expected to donate physical parts of themselves.
Unless they want to.
I can't remember who said it (sorry, brain like a sieve) but yes, these people chould grow their own hair to make wigs out of before they get cancer/alopecia/whatever. That would save a lot of hassle.
Guess they don't do that Mike because usually the salon will keep and sell the hair. They don't want to give their customers ideas that will cost them money!
But how would they lose money. The person still has to pay for the cut. They are just given the cut hair way. And not letting it just fall to the floor. Or trashed. That's all. I didn't know they sold cut hair also. My wife just got a prem/cut for 90. And now her 9" could be used for wig?
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OK, I'm going to whole-heartedly agree with bnbivi00 in the sense that some, not all, chronic posters add nothing to the discussion. They say stuff like "I love it. The best thing since sliced white bread" after every post. I don't care how you feel about each post, I'll form my own opinion, thank you. I don't mind people who post new information or an occassional opinion. Remember an opinion means nothing if it follows each and every post. But the ones that really get me - and to the credit of this board it rarely appears here - is the occassions when someone tries to supply new info and someone jumps on the poster for the info being old. Please that person is only trying to contribute quality information.
I've been villified on some message boards and kicked off of another for saying as much as bnbivi00 has said and it's good to see that I'm alone. So please, bnbivi00, do me a favor and go to ltah and back me on this cause.
And remember, this isn't a contest to see who can get the most posts.
-Stu
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Kramer,
I am not asking you or anyone to not speak your mind. This is a board where people can speak their mind and that is the whole point of this board. I am just suggesting that you pick your battles. EVERYONE on here knows what you all think about long hair and what others think about short hair. I just choose to let people speak their mind without blasting every subject on this board if they think differently than I do. Don't hate people for wanting to do good and help others out by donating their hair. Don't hate people for wanting to get the message out that people can do this (not forcing them to cut their hair). That is all I am asking.
Conspiracy, high-pressure, bullying, c’mon folks! How often does it really happen? I guess, like with anything, there may be some zealots who think anyone with long hair should donate it to charity but I sure haven’t witnessed it. I’ve heard people asked if they have ever considered it. I’ve heard people respond, “No way!” I’ve heard people share how donating was a positive experience for them. I’ve yet to actually witness anyone being bullied into cutting their hair. With the exception of a few of these boards, I can’t think of a single person who has bemoaned being harassed to cut their hair. It does seem to me that there are a number of people on sites like this one that demean any charity that involves cutting ones hair. Just a personal observation.
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Guess they don't do that Mike because usually the salon will keep and sell the hair. They don't want to give their customers ideas that will cost them money!
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Well I been around the net long,short and no hair. This has been on every message board. Long sites going off about it and short side going nuts about. Ok now how about this when a long hair person goes anywhere to get hair cut why not just put Wigs for kids,LOL and this new one that Lane is cutting for just post something. I'm thinking they are all the same 10" or more. That way when a person walks in is going to cut a lot off they just have to look and say well I'm going to cut it anyway so why not. So this way they don't have to go after the long hair people that what to keep it? Gee I guess that wouldn't give the rubber-necks anything to look forward to? Sorry about going long on this. Call me the Green Party.
Few men are killed by the bayonet;many are scared by it.Bayonets should be fixed when the fire fight starts.General George Patton Jr.,War As I Knew It,1947.
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I am not asking you or anyone to not speak your mind. This is a board where people can speak their mind and that is the whole point of this board. I am just suggesting that you pick your battles. EVERYONE on here knows what you all think about long hair and what others think about short hair. I just choose to let people speak their mind without blasting every subject on this board if they think differently than I do. Don't hate people for wanting to do good and help others out by donating their hair. Don't hate people for wanting to get the message out that people can do this (not forcing them to cut their hair). That is all I am asking.
Let's all agree to disagree and move on.
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We don't really have this whole Locks of Love concept in Europe so I am slightly confused by what a massive deal it seems to be over your side of the pond. For an outsider, it seems like Diane Lane and Ann Curry (whoever she is) are raising the profile of these charities and in my opinion, that's a positive way to exploit their fame. Of course there's an element of self-promotion involved, but their efforts can, at the end of the day, help someone in need, then I think we can do better than denigrate their actions.
On a personal note, I would love to give blood, but am unable to do so, because I am quite severely anaemic. Even since I put on weight (I used to be super-skinny, which also depleted my blood), my iron levels are still way too low to donate. I think that people who donate blood are doing a BRILLIANT job :)
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Fading career maybe? Personally, I'm sick of celebs. jumping on this particular bandwagon. Lane's hair has almost always been long and when she cuts it, it grows back real quick. That might not be so for the ordinary people she seems determined to bully into donating their hair. Leave them alone! If they want to donate to a charity (with money or anything else) they'll do so! This guilt trip in the society in which we live is really beginning to freak me out. Charity should be given anonymously and for a valid personal reason--not as a celebrity stunt. Whatever I may have given to charity is my business. I will say, however, that I've never donated blood and would not carry an organ donor card. I do not believe that this personal choice makes me a bad or antisocial person.
Nicely done Bubba. You nailed it. Although I'm betting St. Ann and St. Diane would disagree with you.
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And while I am on my soapbox, why do people have to respond to EVERY post on here? It drives me crazy to see people on this board for less than a year and have hundreds or thousands of posts. Look how long I have been a part of this board and how many posts I have made. Funny how I am a Newbie when I have been here longer than most of you who are Seniors.
You talk about freedom of speech and then want to shut down those who want to talk. No contradiction there, eh?
A charity bullies and guilts people! Stop the presses.
That's unfortunate, but it's what many charities do. If any of us ran a charity,
we might have to do the same. I've been involved with a few charities and I
know they made real guilt sells in their mailers. I don't think people should
be guilted into donating their hair, but these charities are doing something
nice. While some have drawn the conclusion that Locks of Love has more
hair than they need, does Beautiful Lengths?
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There aren't enough long haired celebrities out there? Is there a
shortage of long hair out there? I had no idea! I feel bad for all you
LH enthusiasts with no long haired celebrities to look at anymore.
You have my deepest sympathies.
You all sound like Republicans arguing that there isn't enough leeway for large corporations anymore.
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The salon industry must have discovered that their revenues have been
declining in recent years. Either that, or the supply of
certified haircutters has risen. In either case, and between LoL
proselytes and celebrity-centered circus whackathons, there seems to be
in the air a distinct effort underway to rid America of the "blight" of
long hair. Well, as far as I care for their master plan, they can
take their message and stuffit.
IMO, the so-called "beauty" industry is extraordinarily ugly. Ironic, huh?
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That's been mentioned a few times, but for some reason it always entertains me to see it pointed out. And don't feel bad bnbivi00. Check out my status over there to the left and remember that I'm the reason the board even came into existence in the first place.
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Tooting our own horn JF?
Still miss your column, wish you would start it up again (just wishful thinking!) I average about 3 posts a week...is that too much?
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Your right everyone is intitled to their own opinion,which is why I posted mine.As you can see from my sig. pic I'm not anti short hair.I have had my hair short all my life.I have only had long hair once.And i was glad to cut it off.I think if someone wants to cut their hair short,awsome as I frequent the short hair board as much as the long hairboard.I just like hair.My point is alot of people with longhair have been chastised for not donating their hair.Thats not right.I have seen it firsthand.These individuals really valued their hair,but felt pressure from others to cut for this cause.It would have been fine if it had been of their own free will,but it wasnt.They were made to feel selfish for wanting to keep it for themselves?! Like I stated in my initial response,donating to charities is wonderful,but it should be a choice.I donate to charities all the time,and will continue to but only when and how i see fit.Free will is wondeful.
And yes fatmoogas,that is me sans extensions.I missed my own hair so i decided to go natural.
And while I am on my soapbox, why do people have to respond to EVERY post on here? It drives me crazy to see people on this board for less than a year and have hundreds or thousands of posts. Look how long I have been a part of this board and how many posts I have made. Funny how I am a Newbie when I have been here longer than most of you who are Seniors.
That's been mentioned a few times, but for some reason it always entertains me to see it pointed out. And don't feel bad bnbivi00. Check out my status over there to the left and remember that I'm the reason the board even came into existence in the first place.
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I said to myself that I wouldn't get into this topic with Ann and now Diane but I just feel I have to now. I have been cutting hair for 10+ years now and I am actually a short hair specialist (yes, our salon is big enough to have specialist like this). I can't tell you how many times I have had someone come in and tell me they wanted to cut off all of their hair. I would tell them about Locks of Love or Wigs for Kids and they had never heard of it. After I cut it off, they would reply "If I had known about this, I would have done this years ago".
I think it is great that Diane and Ann are doing what they are doing to get the word out. Since we are part of the world of hair and see this stuff every day, you all assume that EVERYONE knows about it. Believe it or not, there are MANY who have never heard of Locks of Love and even less that have heard of Beautiful Lengths.
Neither Diane or Ann are holding people down and cutting their hair off. They are not forcing anyone to do anything...they are just getting the word out. I am really sorry that a few people on this board think it is the worst thing in the world to cut someones hair for ANY reason. That is what I love about this country.....freedom of speech. You might not like what others say, but that doesn't mean you have to do it.
And while I am on my soapbox, why do people have to respond to EVERY post on here? It drives me crazy to see people on this board for less than a year and have hundreds or thousands of posts. Look how long I have been a part of this board and how many posts I have made. Funny how I am a Newbie when I have been here longer than most of you who are Seniors.
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The article does seem a bit (just a bit) disengenuous...I'll give Ms. Lane the benefit of the doubt because she is a serious actress. She has had shorter hair before (I believe no shorter than a short bob), and as an actress, if the next roll calls for long hair...ON with the extensions!
I don't think groups, or organizations should tell people to grow, and cut their hair. I think, however, that if someone wants to cut their hair short, and there will be an available ponytail, why not send it on to LOL or whoever can put it to good use. Telling people to grow and cut is like putting the cart before the horse, imho.
As for donating blood, not everyone can. I have donated over 3 gallons of blood in my life, but can no longer because of some medication I'm taking. I feel more people should, but it IS a personal choice, and I will not judge you or think any more or less of you (or anyone else) for your own personal choice.
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Fading career maybe? Personally, I'm sick of celebs. jumping on this particular bandwagon. Lane's hair has almost always been long and when she cuts it, it grows back real quick. That might not be so for the ordinary people she seems determined to bully into donating their hair. Leave them alone! If they want to donate to a charity (with money or anything else) they'll do so! This guilt trip in the society in which we live is really beginning to freak me out. Charity should be given anonymously and for a valid personal reason--not as a celebrity stunt. Whatever I may have given to charity is my business. I will say, however, that I've never donated blood and would not carry an organ donor card. I do not believe that this personal choice makes me a bad or antisocial person.
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That's been mentioned a few times, but for some reason it always entertains me to see it pointed out. And don't feel bad bnbivi00. Check out my status over there to the left and remember that I'm the reason the board even came into existence in the first place. 
.I donate to charities all the time,and will continue to but only when and how i see fit.Free will is wondeful.
