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(a) Having a hair fetish does not necessarily mean you like de-feminizing women or you like forced haircuts.

(b) Just coz you have a hair fetish doesn't mean you can't be interested in hairstyles in a 'normal' way too. (It's like saying someone with a foot fetish can't buy shoes!)
 
(c) Having a fetish is not a bad thing in itself - obviously it depends on how you conduct yourself with it. Unwillingly forcing it on others is bad, but simply having isn't nor should anyone be made to feel bad about it. 
 
(d) You can like extreme short cuts without having a fetish. 
 
So give people a break, we're are all entitled to our own opinions and feelings and simply suggesting someone used clippers to cut their hair does not make that person a fetishist.
 
As a 10-year old a friend of my had a buzzed nape (by choice) because it was fashionable - I doubt at 10 that she had any kind of fetish.
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Just a thought here, but maybe there should be two forums to better serve the needs of people here.  One would be about short hair (how to style and take care of it and discuss different styles, similar to the long hair board) and another one could be about haircutting, which is what a lot of people like mikecuts and Brent and others seem to prefer to discuss.  That way, they could talk about cutting and buzzing women all they wanted because that would be the focus of the forum!
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I find it very disheartening the way ya'll have attacked Mike here.  First off, nobody answered his question; it was a simple question:
 
Why do some ladies have no fear of loosing their long locks?
 
It wasn't a short vs. long question related to the 'Totally Baffling' post in the "Hair Politics" forum http://talk.hairboutique.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=37
which seems to have continued to this post.  It is simply an observation made by a trained/qualified hair cutter.  Some, and I would venture to say most, women are very nervous when cutting their long hair short; his observation was that some women don't show this nervousness and was simply wondering why.  His later comment about undercuts is simply just another observation; he is curious and just wants to find out if anyone has noticed this or if it is just happening in his local area.
 
For Mike, I haven't a clue as to why some women show no fear when getting their long hair cut short.  I would venture a guess here and say that it was a deliberate and calculated decision; they understand the consequences (lots of hair on the floor and not on their head) and welcome the change.  Those that have made the change and were very nervous about it probably can't wait to have it long again as they were probably not quite ready for the change.  As for the undercut thing, ten years ago I lived on the North Carolina coast; I saw numerous undercuts but by no means was it the norm; in fact, it was a rarity.  I saw variations from just an inch up from the hairline to all the way to the top of the ears.  Personally, I like the look, especially when in a ponytail.  It gives the nape a much cleaner look.  Here in Texas, I have not seen an undercut in a very long time.
 
 
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Hi, I prefer my hair, short over long, because for me it's easier to style. I don't have to blow dry my hair (just towel dry).  I bleach my own hair, (and cut it also). So having short hair, I don't get split ends from bleaching.(well atleast you can't see them) haha And plus I just like the look of short/spiked hair! 

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I have to agree with Anne and Brent here...  There are an infinite number of reasons people have style preferences, perceptions, fears, desires, etc.  It's part of the human psyche.  Everyone is different.  No one will ever figure it out.  It just is...
 
I also noticed you like talking about clippering women's hair and find a way to assert "as a barber / stylist" in almost every message you post.  It seems a little odd to me.  Are you a barber that gets pleasure from buzzing women's hair with a clipper?  You sure like to talk about it a lot.
 
In my opinion, the look you get from clipper-cutting hair is too harsh (read butch) for most women.  Using a clipper with a guide or length-specific blade (like a 3.5) follows the contour of the head too closely.  It does not permit you to compensate for irregular growth patterns or bone structure.  This is mitigated, to a degree, using a clipper-over-comb technique.  Still, it does not offer as much control as a you get by employing a number of techniques using a variety of shears.  You can cut hair every bit as short with shears but provide a cut tailored specifically to your client's hair type/texture.  It just takes a little more time and skill than does plowing a clipper up the nape.  If that's what the client desires, great.  I think most women prefer the softer look, however.
 
I have not personally observed the fad of which you speak.  It may have to do with demographics.  I have seen styles trending a bit shorter and with more structure recently rather than the long, flat-ironed look with streaky highlights and low-lights that has been popular for a long time now (too long IMO).  Bobs, more layers, graduation and texture are being employed.  Clients have stopped "growing their hair out" and are willing to experiment with a variety of looks again.  I like the shorter or medium-length styles more.
 
 


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Originally posted by mikecuts mikecuts wrote:

I have a question, Why do some ladies have no fear of loosing their long locks?
 
I'm sorry, but I don't understand your question.  Why do some ladies have no fear of all the time it takes to grow their hair long?
 
As Brent said, it's simply a matter of taste.  Short hair (or long hair) isn't "good" or "bad."  It's like different clothing styles.  Is a long skirt "better" than a short skirt? 
 
 
Quote Her friend wanted a short cliiper cut.
 
I understand that many women like their hair cut short.  However, why does it matter if the hair is cut with clippers or with scissors?  Is a clipper cut like a crewcut?  You sure do like to talk about using clippers on a woman's head!
 
Quote One of the big fads coming back is the nape being cliipped short with longer hair over it so when the hair is pulled up in a pony tail the clipperd nape is exposed. Do you see this in other area's of the USA?  
 
I haven't personally seen this, but I've seen it on the internet.  It's interesting to see the drastic difference between ultra short and long.  I wouldn't personally choose this, but it's a unique look!
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I often see young women and middle aged women with short hair, even ultra-short hair.
It isn't a problem these days for a woman to wear very short hair. And some women look adorable in ultra-short hairstyles.
It has been that way for decades really, going back to the short permed  bob cuts of the 1920s, up to the modern pixies and other very short hairstyles of today in the 2000s.

I am in my 40s, and my entire life I have seen many women with short hair, including my ex-wife, and the woman I am dating these days.

So why would it surprise you that some women like to wear short hair? Just as some men like wearing long hair, or a beard, or earrings, or whatever.

Different people have different styles.

Some women like to wear pantsuits, others like to wear skirts or dresses.
Some women wear a nosestud in their pierced nostril, others don't wear nose jewelry. Some women have gotten tattoos, others don't have tattoos. It is just fashion. It is good that different people like different styles. It would be boring if everyone had the same hair length, or hairstyle.


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I have a question, Why do some ladies have no fear of loosing their long locks?I had a client and a friend come into the shop today. She is a standard bob style. Her friend wanted a short cliiper cut. she had some of the most thickest straightest hair I have ever seen. length was just about shoulder  length. Of course my question is why do you want it cut and are you sure? Her reason was " I am sick of it and just want it gone" . I just wonder as a barber / stylist why... I do cut a lot of teenage and mid- age ladies styles both short and long. One of the big fads coming back is the nape being cliipped short with longer hair over it so when the hair is pulled up in a pony tail the clipperd nape is exposed. Do you see this in other area's of the USA?  
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