QuoteReplyTopic: why do hairdressers do this? Posted: May 09 2003 at 2:55pm
last week i got my hair trimmed. my hairdresser brushed my hair after washing. it was with a paul mitchell brush. i notice a lot of hairdressers brush wet hair. it's been said over and over never brush wet hair, that it can cause damage. always use a wide tooth comb. why do hairdressers sometimes use a brush?
Why do hairdressers never listen and do what their customers request? I asked for 1/2" trim I got 2"-I pay them to do what I ask not for them to do what they want.
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Why do hairdressers never listen and do what their customers request? I asked for 1/2" trim I got 2"-I pay them to do what I ask not for them to do what they want.
i'm sorry to hear that sheryl. my hairdresser is good about that though. i didn't even get 1/2 trimmed off.
Why do hairdressers never listen and do what their customers request? I asked for 1/2" trim I got 2"-I pay them to do what I ask not for them to do what they want.
i'm sorry to hear that sheryl. my hairdresser is good about that though. i didn't even get 1/2 trimmed off.
Sure, the hairdresser is good about not trimming off more than you want, but they use a brush on just-washed hair. Didn't they learn not to do that in school? Didn't they also learn to not cut off more than the customer requests? I hear this story so often (been there once myself, unfortunately), it makes me doubt that it's actually taught. A pity. So much money spent on education, no apparent knowledge of this basic precept.
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And another thing... they all wash hair the same way, making a huge snarled mess to start with.
I think current cosmetology training is deficient in the needs of long haired clients. Or am I mistaken... Lili Beach, you out there? Care to confirm or deny?
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First of all, I personally use a wide tooth comb just after washing then you have to use one to blow dry to create smoothness.
As far as what cosmotology schools are teaching, I don't know how to answer that. Each cosmo school is as different from night to day. In the major city next to the one I live in, there are presently 4 schools that I know of. You can tell what school the recent graduates come from because of what they know. Three of them are worthless and one is fairly good. Many beauty school owners only teach the very basics in the first month then let them out on the floor to cut and style the beauty school clientele. The owners make more money this way because the student is paying to go there and the client is paying the owner to have their hair done. In other words, they teach just enough to get the school clientele taken care of.
I live in Tennessee. Here you must attend beauty school for a total of 1500 clock hours. It varies form state to state.
As far as the brushing wet hair question, I believe that the hair should be combed from the bottom up with a wide tooth comb. When blow drying you should pin up the top and start at the bottom, blow drying with the brush you choose to create smoothness. I never advocate "wildly" brushing the hair while drying. It should be a very control action.
( I am told by many clients on their first visit with me, "I can tell you are very good because you are very gentle with the hair")
Hair is a Like a fine fabric that should be handled with tender loving care,
I am a professional Hairstylist/Haircolorist with 19 years experience. I have traveled all over the country for my advanced education. I am also a salon owner.:)........and I LOVE Redken!!!
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Before further comment, I feel I should say that I have had some *excellent* hairstylists since I began growing my hair long 11 years ago. A few, however... weren't quite so good.
Perhaps to some extent they are a product of the school from which they received their education and training. I'm guessing their is no national board which administers a multiple choice test... and it would/could/should have questions on long hair care/trimming/styling. It's not as though there aren't any clients interested in long hair, after all. Just long-haired clients who don't always get their wishes well-served because the stylist doesn't know what to do with them (all due to insufficient training or education).
Lili Beach, do you think there is a need for long hair topics to be included in the education? TIA
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that's what i don't get also. do some hairdressers just grab what it close to them? sometimes my hairdresser uses a wide tooth comb. other times the paul mithchell brush. i wonder if maybe i should strart bringing my wide tooth comb with me or a set of instructions
Negligent, thougthless and unprofessional behaviour.
I suggest you try and find a stylist who does not treat hair, scalp and yourself with such disregard and disrespect - and once you do, become a regular customer.
If that proves impossible, than
(a) book a 10 minute pre-cut/style consultation with whatever stylist and make it crystal clear how you expect your hair, scalp and self to be treated. Also make it clear that you will not be paying them unless you get a satistactory standard of professional service.
(b) try and use stylists based on personal recommendations from other people. If you were in London, I would send you to my ex-stylist - a great guy who is so gentle in treating hair (washing and cutting) and actually listens to what the client wants. Not just at the start of the process but 2 or 3 times during as well.
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Some of these experiences are just terrible! That ripping thing, OMG!
Makes me realize I'm pretty lucky with my hairdresser. She never cuts off more than I ask her to, and she only brushes when my hair is dry.
Mind you, I never have my hair washed at the salon. My hair is clean when I get there, but it's dry. She brushes it first, when it's still dry, and then she sprays the ends wet. After that she uses a comb for the ends. I've never seen her use a wide tooth comb, though.
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the thing is i like my hairdresser. i know she won't cut more than i want off. it's sad to say but that is very hard to find. this may sound stupid but i use to get very nervous just to get a trim! i think it stems from another hairdresser when i had layers. i had to go every couple of weeks to get the layers shaped up or it wouldn't fall right. well one day he said i know what will make them stay better.. he took a big chunk out of my layer! this made my hair look uneven. so i had to keep cutting the back to make it look right. i guess i'll have to tell her not to use the brush.
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