QuoteReplyTopic: Going for consultaion Posted: June 15 2007 at 8:40am
Going to consultaion today for a new install, had GL last time which ruined my hair, going to see about a sew in this time, what kind of questions should I ask?
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How many wefts will be installed, price per weft? Will the consultation fee be subtracted from my total cost? Do you supply the hair or do I? Human or synth hair? Virgin or processed hair? How long will it take? What's included in the price?Do you also style the hair or do I need to have someone else do it? Can I reuse this hair? How much to remove, tighten or reinstall? How do I take care of this hair? How many maintenance appts. are needed, what's the maintenance fee?
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How long have you been sewing in tracks? Can I see pics of your befores and afters, references I can talk to? How much of my hair will be covered? What's the type of sewn in method will you be using? Will it be braided or threaded? Will my hair be left out in between the rows of tracks or will it all be braided or threaded? How far up will you go?
what are their credentials- are they licensed, certified, where did they learn their method. How many other clients have they done. do they have references. Ask to see portfolio- do they have a website.
Here's my three cents on tips for finding a good weavologist.. To start, ask questions.. LOTS of
questions.. GO TO THE SALON if you can... GET NOSY.. Interview MANY
stylists.. Finding a good one is not just about skill it's also about
your level of comfort.. You guys should "vibe" if you know what I
mean.. So don't be desperate.. be patient.. Find the RIGHT person...
Ask to see pictures of their work... However, keep in mind that I know A
LOT of highly skilled stylists who don't have pictures of their work..
The lack of pictures is also NOT a reflection of the stylist's
abilities.. Many clients (especially in African American salons) are reluctant to have their pictures taken and
some stylists just don't take pictures..
Most stylists who do braided weaves don't have any certifications
to show since there are HARDLY ANY legit certification or classes in this
method.. Many of the good stylists I know have been braiding hair since they
were kids, and their body of work is your proof of their
"certification" in the method.. So IMO, forget certifications.. It's not
a valid way to ensure you have a good stylist.. Certification only means they
took the class, nothing more.. Lots of folks are certified in lots of
things they have no real skill at.. (I see it all the time in my line
of work)
Also since they don't teach you how to weave/braid in cosmetology
schools, many of these stylists may have been doing braids and weaves
LONG before they got their licenses.. So the length of time they have
been licensed may not tell the WHOLE story.. (This is the case for ALL
of my weavologists BTW...)
Ask if you can come to the salon to meet with them and see their
work in action.. Most GOOD weavers don't mind if you do this at all (it
is of course at the discretion of the client if they want a stranger
gawking at them while getting their hair done)
You will want to know if the cost included removal of tracks..
(Sometimes a stylist will include in the cost takedowns if they are
taking down their own work to re-do the tracks)
Make sure you discuss in detail the kind of hair you will be using and
make sure the stylist isn't trying to force you into using hair "he/she"
likes..
Get referrals yes, but keep in mind that many clients don't want YOU
calling them asking about their hair weaves.. (I am one of those ladies
-- I'd be happy to refer friends to my stylist, but I don't want
strangers callin' me asking me about my hair weave! )
So the stylist may not be able to provide you with many (if any)
referrals.. The lack of referrals isn't a reflection on a stylists work
or abilities..
HTH
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I agree certification is no garuntee that someone knows what they are doing OR NOT, many braiders are in salons braiding who live next door to the owner, never took classes, videos, or anything else, legal or not the owner recognizes mad skillz when she sees them, .... so the same maybe true for weaves etc.
Referals are good, but beware b/c what's good for some is not good for others. If you feel like watchin' the stylists in action cool....I never sat and watched folks before cuz I don't care to be watched.
But hey if it works cool!
Instict, use it !!! If you get the feeling that someone is bothered, and agitated by your questions and concerns I would honor that feeling and move forward, it's somebody out there who will answer the questions with ease and you will not feel like you are trying too hard.
Take your time, and don't be afraid to speak up.....why pay somebody to scalp you...if you get my drift. I never let myself get frazzled by my hair, I am not on a life or death errand!!! to get extensions.
It is time consuming, but educate yourself on the method you are pursueing OK.
I know I am worth it, and my ends ($$$) are too.
If appropriate where ever possible get a gander at the stylists hair.....clues to how much they value hair care, not just hair styling.
Take it easy, and be willing to wait if need be, just wait...don't settle!
Take your time, and don't be afraid to speak up.....why pay somebody to scalp you...if you get my drift. I never let myself get frazzled by my hair, I am not on a life or death errand!!! to get extensions.
I love this!!! ITA.. It's just hair! It's not life and death.. I've seen some folks really get their panties in a bunch over hair extensions, and I always want to ask "Why?"
Anomis wrote:
If appropriate where ever possible get a gander at the stylists hair.....clues to how much they value hair care, not just hair styling.
You know what girl?? I learned a long time ago that some stylists can have mad skillz on YOUR head, while their own hair looks like CRAP.. One of my backup stylists definitely has great skillz, but her own hair has NEVER looked nice!
Anomis wrote:
Diva any idea why this maybe true of AA stylists?
I once allowed a braider to take picture of her finished work. She asked me waaay in advance.
Girl that's a whole NEW topic!
Edited by Divavocals - June 16 2007 at 11:04am
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My personal feeling is that its not an AA client thing or a white thing or a Hispanic or Asian thing. A lot of people in general are trying to pull the wool, (or hair) over on someones' eyes about their long beautiful locks. Most of the time its a man ladies, come on be honest here
I will admit it, I have refused my photo taken after extensions once or twice because I was trying to fool a guy or two that it was my real hair and I was being paranoid. I will admit it as silly as it sounds now. A lot of men are really unsophisticated when it comes to hair and all they know is they like it long. I have refused face shots for my stylists but almost always allow the back.
My personal feeling is that its not an AA client thing or a white thing or a Hispanic or Asian thing. A lot of people in general are trying to pull the wool, (or hair) over on someones' eyes about their long beautiful locks. Most of the time its a man ladies, come on be honest here
I think you may have misunderstood the point of my previous comment.. I'm sure that lots of women have lots of reasons for not wanting their picture taken.. It is probably not just an African American thing. Not the point I was trying to make..
However, I made the distinction about African American clients since the majority of stylists who are doing the sew in methods are usually found in African American salons.. It's been my personal experience & observation that many African American women don't like having their pictures taken (front or back) after getting their hair done (for many reasons). So from my personal experience, I have found that many stylists in African American salons don't always have picture portfolios to show potential new clients..
Edited by Divavocals - June 16 2007 at 3:08pm
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Fair enough and there may very well be cultural issues I am unaware of.
As it is now, I WISH I could find a salon or anyone that does sew ins. I have managed to find one in Boston but it has been an uphill challenge let me tell you. Sigh...they can take all the pics they want! heheh
Fair enough and there may very well be cultural issues I am unaware of.
It's all good girl!
krimsa wrote:
As it is now, I WISH I could find a salon or anyone that does sew
ins. I have managed to find one in Boston but it has been an uphill
challenge let me tell you. Sigh...they can take all the pics they want!
heheh
I'm noticing in Los Angeles that a lot of stylists are now advertising
their services in Craigslist.. Have you given that a try?? Your local BSS may be another source.. It's not uncommon here (in Los Angeles) for a BSS to have referrals or cards from stylists who frequent their establishments.
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I had never tried to make people believe my weave was my own hair but I did try to avoid having that "wig-ish look. I would wear mine so far down my back and so silky straight that I know some people were probably saying " You know good and God-doggone well that ain't her hair"!!! One of my girlfriends would touch my hair and say "Girl, you're just living out your fantasy, aren't you"
I'd never received any negative comments or looks. Women would come up to me and say that I "Was so beautiful" or "Girl, I looove this hair", they knew it was a weave and didn't care.
I think white men are less aware of extensions than black men. White men are more apt to say" Oh you have such beautiful hair" or " Wow your hair has really grown" and I just think " You all are so cute and completely clueless"
Not all black men but some have been very negative in their attitudes about black women with extensions, just another way for them to attempt to degrade us to try to make themselves feel better about themselves after we've rejected them. Losers. My husband loves it when I wear extensions. I think MOST men are cool with and actually like when a women wears her extensions well.
Diva, yes I did try Craiglist and was contacted by one lady but she works out of her home. I have nothing against that but she had not one photo to show me. This other lady I found in Boston did have a website and photos so just to be on the safe side, I’m going with her this first time at least. I’m sorry but what does BSS stand for? Is it Beauty Supply Shop? I always get confused on the acronyms. That is a good idea though, but I’m really in the boonies of New Hampshire and there may not be a Beauty Supply store around here! Good ideas though and I will look on the net to see what is the closest Sally or what not.
I said what I meant and meant what I said, I have in my life allowed myself to be photographed.... YES MY BROWN SELF... I was asked in advance, so I had the earings, and lip gloss flossin' HEYYYY, and I was ready for my close up Mr Davil.
IT AIN'T GOT A DANG THANG TO DO WITH A DUDE!!!!! ooops
As far as I am concerned any way!
What do they know? what is a man gonna do go into the salon and see my face there, on the wall after I have weaved it up!!!
NOPE!!!!
I can only speak for myself, but I have never been to a lot of stylists of color who have a wall full of before and afters let-a-lone afters.
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However, I made the distinction about African American clients since the majority of stylists who are doing the sew in methods are usually found in African American salons.. It's been my personal experience & observation that many African American women don't like having their pictures taken (front or back) after getting their hair done (for many reasons). So from my personal experience, I have found that many stylists in African American salons don't always have picture portfolios to show potential new clients..
I wouldn't mind a before and after pic as long as my face was blacked out, I would want my face to be posted all over the web if my real hair was all jacked up. Besides, you know how we black girls can be. We wouldn't want the whole wide world to know that we were really baldheaded
I really should start previewing my posts so that I won't have to edit them
Edited by MSHONEY - June 16 2007 at 3:37pm
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I said what I meant and meant what I said, I have in my life allowed myself to be photographed.... YES MY BROWN SELF... I was asked in advance, so I had the earings, and lip gloss flossin' HEYYYY, and I was ready for my close up Mr Davil.
IT AIN'T GOT A DANG THANG TO DO WITH A DUDE!!!!! ooops
As far as I am concerned any way!
What do they know? what is a man gonna do go into the salon and see my face there, on the wall after I have weaved it up!!!
NOPE!!!!
I can only speak for myself, but I have never been to a lot of stylists of color who have a wall full of before and afters let-a-lone afters.
I think Krimsa was talking about looking good for a man you're dating, not salon pics.
However, I made the distinction about African American clients since the majority of stylists who are doing the sew in methods are usually found in African American salons.. It's been my personal experience & observation that many African American women don't like having their pictures taken (front or back) after getting their hair done (for many reasons). So from my personal experience, I have found that many stylists in African American salons don't always have picture portfolios to show potential new clients..
Amen
and sinse I do not frequent "White beauty salons" I can only speak about AA salons I have been to. I see more before and afters in Braidshops
(I have not had braids in yrs btw)
The gentlemen I have dated have to be told wether I have extensions or not, b/c I do not flow with extensions that scream WEAVE!!!
That's not my steelo.
It's some very sensitive history behind AA people and hair, but indeed
THAT IS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT CONVERSATION LADIES. MEOW!
heheh MsHoney, yeah I mean us white girls also don’t want to be seen looking like crap all over the net. As for what you were saying about black men deliberately being vindictive towards AA women with weaves or extensions, that just plain sucks and I would agree with you it most likely has to do with their own insecurities and less about what you choose to do with your own hair.
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So the stylist may not be able to provide you with many (if any)
referrals.. The lack of referrals isn't a reflection on a stylists work
or abilities..
Divavocals wrote:
I guess
Not the point I was trying to make..
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? what is a man gonna do go into the salon and see my face there, on the wall after I have weaved it up!!!
