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Metalgirl:
Perhaps this has been discussed before- I am not sure. I didn't do a very thorough search.
I have heard a lot about SoCap also, and I have a lot of customers who like me to match hair colors of ours with SoCap colors. Can you tell me, what is the main difference between SoCap and other tips? Is it a fusion-type installation? Or rings, links? And what about SoCap makes it desirable?
I am just getting very curious. I may go to cosmetology school soon, so that I may diversify our business and truly know all types of installation- plus be license and able to legally install hair extensions.  I will plan to possibly expand to owning a salon in addition to our current retail business.  With these plans, I'd like to try and narrow down some of the systems to offer and learn.
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Originally posted by metalgirl metalgirl wrote:

Yes I still do a lot of shrink links.  Mark Barrington came out with and 'extra hold' shrink links, and it works well on my people who were having problems with slippage with the regular shrink links.

Hi Karen:  You ask if I do 'Great Extensions' , I think you mean Great Lengths.  No, I have not taken the Great Length course.  For fusion, I decided on So.Cap, since they have good hair and decent prices that match what my clients are willing to pay.
 
I do all methods.  For strand extensions I like the shrink links, silcone lined mircro rings, and now I added So.cap.   For wefted methods, I do sew in and bonded, and also some seamless. I  also do hair replacement, so I have some wig and hairpiece clients. 
 
So, what do I do most of?  Let's see, probably it's a cross between micro rings and shrink links, since I've been doing these methods a long time.  I may try to switch some of these clients to SoCap though.
 
By the way, I just did a take down of a client that I put the Donna Bella fusion on.  Those suckers stayed in very well, but yet were very easy to remove.  I think the Donna Bella glue is a bit fussier than the So.Cap in that it makes a more chunky bond and it sort of burns the fingers, but I'd use it again, and I think they sell to the general public. 
 
Hi MetalGirl,
 
Oops...my goof.  Yes, I meant Great Lengths. 
 
I have heard very good things about SoCap.  I also heard it is more affordable the GL but still good hair.  So it is nice to get your feedback on the subject since you are working with it.
 
Thank you for providing so much great info about your methods.  If you were closer to Dallas I would be bringing my HB models over to see you for some of your amazing work.
 
I found it fascinating that you do the most of micro rings and shrink links.  I have heard great things about both methods and really am chomping at the bit to have someone from HB have those installs done.  I want Brigid to try either rings (do some people call them beads?) or shrink links next.  She has had a series of installs and it is interesting to hear her feedback on each one because she is walking around with the installs all the time.
 
WOW...you do so many different things.  That is so great because it gives your clients so many options.  What a great way to run your hair extension business.
 
Thanks for the feedback on Donna Bella.  The guy I talked to said that they don't sell to the general public but then I have had a few other people besides yourself tell me that they will.  I am going to check into that further.
 
Thanks again for all the great info. 
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Yes I still do a lot of shrink links.  Mark Barrington came out with and 'extra hold' shrink links, and it works well on my people who were having problems with slippage with the regular shrink links.

Hi Karen:  You ask if I do 'Great Extensions' , I think you mean Great Lengths.  No, I have not taken the Great Length course.  For fusion, I decided on So.Cap, since they have good hair and decent prices that match what my clients are willing to pay.
 
I do all methods.  For strand extensions I like the shrink links, silcone lined mircro rings, and now I added So.cap.   For wefted methods, I do sew in and bonded, and also some seamless. I  also do hair replacement, so I have some wig and hairpiece clients. 
 
So, what do I do most of?  Let's see, probably it's a cross between micro rings and shrink links, since I've been doing these methods a long time.  I may try to switch some of these clients to SoCap though.
 
By the way, I just did a take down of a client that I put the Donna Bella fusion on.  Those suckers stayed in very well, but yet were very easy to remove.  I think the Donna Bella glue is a bit fussier than the So.Cap in that it makes a more chunky bond and it sort of burns the fingers, but I'd use it again, and I think they sell to the general public. 
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Hey MetalGirl,

Thanks for your reply... in my area, extensions are rare, well except for a bond in or sew in.  There's one salon 40 min. west of me that offers a strand by strand method, extend tubes.  I've been to one other shop 1 and a 1/2 hours from me that offered shrink tubes.  Other than these couple shops, there's not a whole lot in my area.   If I mentioned SoCap Extensions to 20 stylists in my area, maybe 2 would know what it was.   So, it's hard to even know what to charge people.  I'm an hour and 1/2 east of Cleveland. 
 
Are you still doing a lot of the Shrink Links?  I'm excited to be doing my first fusion install next month on a girl friend.  
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Hi MetalGirl,
 
Please forgive me if I am mistaken but I thought you used to work with  Great Extensions?  Do you only do SoCap or do you do multiple types of systems?  A few of my hairdresser friends that used to do GL switched to SoCap USA and most of them only do SCU now.  I was just curious at the trend. 
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That question would be very difficult to answer due to the going rates in different areas and the amount of salon overhead the extensionist has to pay.  For example, I rent my own room in a salon, so automatically my overhead is more than someone just renting a chair.
 
I would say do some checking in your area and see what other stylists are charging.  Also,  figure out what the going rate is for 'regular' services in your salon since you want to make at least that much doing extensions, and hopefully more per hour, for your expertise.
 
In several classes that I have taken,  the companies do usually make suggestions about what you should charge, but again, it differs with geographical location.  I just took the SoCap class in LA last month, where many of the stylists in LA are getting $1500-2500 for Socap.  Well, in my area, in Sacramento, the going rate (I've called around) for SoCap is $800-$1200.
 
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I was wondering what the average extensionist is making a year?  I know this is a loaded and personal question... but just some round figures would be appreciated Smile ... thanks, Bridget
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