Hey girl! I just wanted to say good luck with keeping your roots covered.I also wanted to tell u about a color deposting shampoo that will keep uour blonde nice & bright.It's called Artec color.U can look online at it.They have all kinds of blonde colors.Check it out.I use it for my red colored hair.It works wonders to keep my red, vibrant.Good luck with your hair! :)
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It still amazes me how many stylists out there that don't seem to know what they're doing. Bleaching to pale yellow is basic hair colour 101. That just bothers me.
I bleach mine and it's the best it's ever looked color wise and health wise. My only advice is use professional products wherever you can. It's quality that's the difference, and that's what counts when you dry it off after coloring to see how it turned out.
I used Redken Levitation Oil Bleach, applied twice, 55 mins each time (my hair is 7R) to bring it to very very pale yellow. I then tone with Wella Color Touch (demi) in half Lightest Ash Blonde and half Pearl Ash. All pro products. Love the results and have never been happier.
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Well, I went to Sally yesterday and got all the products I need. The only thing that I had to get that was different was the toner. Online the swatch that looks closes to my blonde is 311, but when I looked at it at the store it was totally different. I ended up getting a 315 since that matched almost perfectly.
I'm gonna be doing it sometime next week. Can't wait.
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Ok, so I decided to do the roots today... and unfortunately it did not turn out exactly as I expected it would.
I got the Clairol 7th Stage lightener, and according to the bottle I was supposed to mix it with a 20vol toner. Well, since my hair is pretty resistant I decided to get 30 instead since that would lift faster and better - or so I thought.
Turns out that the lightener is actually BLUE not WHITE as I expected. (Guess I should have got the Born Blonde Creme Lightener since that one is white and would make it much easier for me to see what's going on underneath.) Mixed it and had my sister help me apply it with a brush; another mistake - I should have used a bottle instead since it's hard to do it with a brush plus she kept accidentally getting bleach on the rest of my hair that's already blonde.
Like I said many times, my hair is insanely thick and long. It took her probably half an hour to apply the stuff to just my roots (very sloppily).
I figured since I had already had it on my hair for so long I should have already seen a difference in color, but I didn't see any. I waited and waited and became more frustrated since the blue of the lightener was interfering with the rest so it was hard to see what was happening. Plus it mixed with some of the blonde streaks that I had in my hair previously, making my hair appear GREEN. I was freaking out at that point so to make it lighten faster I used a bit of heat.
It basically looked like nothing was happening except my hair turning green. So I went and washed it out. Turns out my hair was lightening, but very verrrrryyyyy slowly and the bleach had already dried up by now so I figure leaving it on longer wouldn't make a difference anyway. Well, my roots looked A LOT like they did when I got it done at the salon (when the girl screwed up and had to rebleach). So basically I figured I would have to do the same thing again, but being all wet and just out of the shower I couldn't go back to the store to get more bleach.
So I decided to tone it with the toner I got (Clairol Creme Toner 315) thinking that it wouldn't make a difference. I toned it anyway for maybe 10 mintues and washed it again. Well, now my roots are kind of strawberry/golden blonde while the rest of myhair is pretty pale.
Though the toner didn't do a whole lot for my roots, fortunately it did take out some of the yellow that I had at the top from the previous disaster that the stylist didn't fix properly.
So now I'm stuck with about 1" long roots (thankfully it doesn't look that bad) that are kinda strawberry-ish/gold. I'm thinking rebleaching would be unnecessary, so I just need to pick a different toner. Thankfully the Clairol website offers good advice on how to choose toners based on the color you prelighten your hair.
I would consider my roots to be a glonden yellow I guess since it's not pale like the rest of my hair. I'm thinking that in order to get it to match better with the rest of my hair I should probably pick the 302D Platinum Baige toner since that is the only one that would match the closest to the rest of my hair if I applied to my roots; the rest would turn out too yellow or too beige I think.
Should I just do that?
Edited by ThisGirl0 - October 28 2008 at 7:04pm
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Hi, so sorry you had a rough first go with the bleach. I think another thing that may be handy if you do it again in the future is using a bottle & brush. Do you have any photos for reference to show the contrast of the top to bottom. Idk if you got to the pale yellow stage. Did you put the activator packet into the 20-30 vol developer then the liquid? I notice that without the activator packet the bleach is more "gentle" and takes longer to get to the pale point. I also feel the 315 is good to mix with other colors but seems very dark for my taste.
Your choice of 7th stage is great for resistant hair with alot of red undertones & to double drab the formula. It is difficult to see & can be rubbed with a towel maybe to see how things are coming up.
A good thing to do would be if you have lots of hair hehe... Make little swatches with good scotch tape or duck tape. Bleach those to the pale yellow stage with Wellite or Complements or born blonde/ instant whip. Make sure to add the activator packet if your hair is dark, resistant, etc Each works for 90 min (not that I'm saying you would need that it all depends on your hair condition, porosity etc).
Also you could get a mirror for back view hung up & practice with Conditioner only in a bottle Applying to roots etc. Also before actually doing color hair can be protected with a thick conditioner mid-lengths to ends. I think if bleach accidently gets where it isn't wanted putting a damp cloth to rub it off or squirt with water may help. More often hair that is highlighted will be seperated and treated differently in packets. You can view the ABCH booklet online (A test for certification-this shows examples).
Virgin hair gets to a pale yellow easier. Hair swatches I have re-used that were colored lol sometimes keep a difficult shade...so it is really picky getting this stuff just right!!! *keeping in mind the most important too..condition of hair* As For the Toners or demi/semi options... (idk what your hair color is now?) on bleached to pale yellow- 301 blue-looks a little light yellow vanilla cream to me, 302 violet, looks beige vanilla (less yellow) 323 blue-violet) look nice & pale. Mixing 323 & 301 looks pale -just right for my taste. Mixing 303+307 look beige-pink (delicate) too dark for me. 307 looked more beige purpley. These are just experiments on swatches & your hair will show you exactly how it will turn out per your swatch. Another alternative is 10NA Wella Color Charm Demi. I also like Miss Clairol Topaz 40D. Towhead looks too dark for my taste.
Mixing 2pts of developer to 1part toner may make the coverage lighter (less deposit).
Schwarzkopf Silver shampoo (check this out on a bleach swatch) it makes a beautiful pale platinum. To curb YELLOW/Brass perfectly.
For me 315 would have to be mixed with a 301 or something to look less "yellow" the base color.
302 your pick sounds good but test to see as I don't know where your hair is at the moment .
Goodluck :)
Edited by borne.blonde - October 28 2008 at 11:12pm
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I didn't get a bottle since I figured a brush would be fine, but I learned from that mistake. Next time I'm going to use both. It will be easier to apply it with that.
I did look for activators at Sally but I couldn't find any. I could only find one for the Born Blonde semi-permanent toner. But I didn't get that toner, I got the Clairol Creme instead; So I figured using a Born Blonde activator wouldn't work. I think next time I'm just going to go to another Sally store and see if they have it there. 315 looked dark to me as well, but when I looked at the swatches at the store it matched my hair almost perfectly so that's the only reason I got it. I should have went with a different one.
I completely forgot to apply conditioner to my hair before bleaching. I was going to but oh well, definitely will next time.
My hair is pretty pale (except for the roots). Though it has a lot of variation because I used to have highlights and the girl who tried to cover them up didn't really do it completely. She just bleached the pieces of hair that weren't bleached before, foiled them, and washed them out. She definitely did not distribute a toner on them (that's why they're a lot more yellow then the rest of my hair). Thank you for the suggestion on the shampoo. I think if that could help with this problem.
She also put a blue toner on my previously highlighted chunks of hair (which were almots white) and then they started to turn silvery (now they're completely white). Basically she played around with a few different toners, one after the other, and really messed up the color of my hair. Though it's not that bad I supposed since the variation makes my hair look more natural, but yea, she could have done a better job. I just can't believe that she's so bad at doing hair when she's obviously worked at the salon for a while. Weird.
So anyway, back to my hair, I think that 302 or 323 would work great to even out and cancel some of the yellow.
Here's a pic of what the top looks like now in natural light. You'll see the strawberry-ish pretty clearly.
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