cut sons hair

Oh come on Jenna, the little twerp Duke set himself up for an insult. He said he may never have kids because the world is such a controlling, evil, miserable place. What kind of sappy self-pity is that? That is laughable! Poor Duke, the world is so mean !
Now if people don't want to have kids or can't for some reason have kids, that's fine, not everyone is supposed to have children.

But not have kids because the world is so miserable and mean. A world with "mean" people in it like little 'ol Tina, us people that are so "mean" and "controlling" to our children?
I will have you know I have a beautiful, smart, well-adjusted daughter, and yes sometimes I'm strict with her, other times a little less so, I allow her to grow and learn but I also give her some discipline in a loving but firm way, as a parent should.

Wow, things are getting a bit crazy in here.

The fact that it was a boy or girl wasn't the issue Tina, the issue was that it was done without parental consent. The boundaries were crossed, and that is the main problem.

Yes this is very upsetting for her, she had posted a message before about whether to cut his hair or not. If I had been in the same situation, I would of been just as upset!

Are you not going to have kids Duke because the world is just such an awful, evil place like you say, it's just terrible, or are you not going to have kids because you're such a sap no woman would have you?

You're absolutely right, Tina. I DON'T
have kids. And I think I never will,
either. And you know why? Because
there is too much evil, controlling and
misery in the world. But I flatly
disagree with you that one must
make all the decisions for little kids.
Just plain having your way does not
make you "spoiled". Being given too
much money, toys, electronic
equipment etc, not being expected to
behave like a good citizen etc. It has
nothing to do with just having choices
in life - and certainly nothing to do
with such trivial things as how to wear
your hair.

i know what you mean tina, i live in the midwest and in many parts of the country like the midwest, and other parts of the country, a girly boy with long hair , well, the kids would make life miserable for him.

Karrine, I could care less about this woman or her kid, I don't even know them.
But in most neighborhoods, maybe not all neighborhoods, a little boy that stands out from the rest of the little boys and appears to them to be "girly" is going to get his little rear end kicked.

For better or worse we are not living in the "hippie" era any more you might have noticed. Yes there are still some long haired men but very rarely, anywhere I have been in recent years in America, do you see little boys with long hair. They would obviously be picked on and ostracized, especially in tough blue collar neighborhoods.


But like I said it's not my problem, I've got my own kids to raise.

How many kids do you have Duke? My guess is none.

Wait until you have a son, if you ever do Duke. Let the kid have long hair when he goes to school. Watch the kid get beat up by other boys in the school and mocked by the girls.

Maybe Grandma was wrong to give the kid a haircut because it wasn't her kid. But the mother should have had enough common sense to give the boy a haircut.

And when children are small Duke we "force" them to do all kinds of things, otherwise they would grow up to be spoiled brats. I don't care if some freakish genius played the violin when he was little. Kids obviously need to learn things from their parents and adults, including that they don't always get their way about everything.

We "force" them to help with chores, we "force" them to be toilet trained. We "force" them to go to pre-school, to church. We force them to wear warm clothes in the winter so they don't catch cold, etc. We "force" them to do all kinds of stuff, including getting haircuts.

Children need to learn things, including they don't always get their way. If not they grow up stupid, selfish and spoiled, which is one of the big problems we have in the western world at least with the wealthier classes. They spoil there little darlings, let them do whatever they like, in the name of "sensitivity to the child". What a bunch of liberal elite BALONEY!!! What a bunch of AIRHEAD parents!!!!! I mean I'm liberal in some ways but my daughter is not a spoiled brat, and neither will the child I'm presently pregnant with be spoiled. I didn't grow up withe the rich liberal set of people, thank God!

Kids have to learn the meaning of no as well as yes. They need to learn they don't always get what they want. And parents often do make decisions for kids when they are little, otherwise you are not doing your job as a parent.

I hope you don't have kids Duke if you think that two year olds should be able to do whatever they like. They don't have maturity yet, they are not adults yet. They are little kids. They don't get to make every decision when they are a little kid. Geeezzz. Anyone would know that!

Thank God some people still have common sense when raising kids, that we are not all airheads yet.

i think the whole point is this person did it agaist your wishes. which i feel that person had no business doing. just my 2 cents.

I know you love your kid and I'm sure you are a good mother, but you have to realize he and his playmates are still very young. A couple of years from now when he's 4 or 5 yrs. old, other kids when they are that age are a little meaner and know more than when they are 2. Then he would get a bad time from the other kids. If I were you I wouldn't get too angry with the person who had your son's hair cut. They were just trying to protect him.

But that's your problem to deal with.

Good luck to you and yours.

Let's be realistic and honest here.
I have a 5 year old daughter. Even though I wear my hair very short, my daughter has fairly long hair, a little girl's style and length of hair.

Now I believe very much in individuality. But I also know that when children are small, boys wear short hair and girls have hair a little longer. That is common so we can tell boys from girls.
Now when boys and girls become men and women they mature. Their bodies mature and their voices and facial features mature. So even if a woman is bald or a man has hair down to his ankles, you can still easily tell that the bald woman is a woman and the man with long hair is a man. But when kids are real little,-(unless you peek under their little clothes tee hee, nothing dirty intended there!)- it is harder to tell isn't it!
Of course a little girl with very short hair or a little boy with very long hair would be ostracized by the other kids! That's a no brainer! You have to use your common sense.

When the boy is grown up and has a man's features then he can grow his hair to his knees if he wants to, like the handsome Dave Decker who moderates the long hair board here does. Many men have long hair.

And when a girl grows up and has a woman's body and features, then, if she wants to, she can wear her hair very short as I do. Many women wear their hair in short hair styles.


Adults are different than kids. Don't put your kid through alot of uneccesary hell. Life is tough enough for kids.