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    Posted: November 10 2004 at 6:50pm
So I've had a lot more color in my hair than I like to admit. I haven't colored it in over a year, before last Thursday. So there's not too much damage, but I've got experience with that sun-in stuff, different commercial dyes, some bright pink stuff, a horrible experience with henna, and-- now I'm looking at how to maintain black hair.

I do NOT have the money to keep it up in a salon. I'm going to either have to go with the box method or, eventually, head to Sally's and get the stuff in bulk. But for now I'm dealing with box color.

It's almost black at the moment. Naturally a darkish brown, but the sun turned it blonde this summer. Dyeing it black was fairly successful (Garnier Nutrisse) but--

1) I did not realize I had so much hair-- it's been a long time since I did the full color dye job thing-- and so there are a couple small patches that the dye did not reach, and

2) I think I need to find a brand that does not fade quite so quickly. I used soft black; I should have used black black.


I've got a couple boxes of Revlon Colorsilk here. (I'm a two-box kind of girl, I found out.) I'm going to re-do it as soon as I think it'll be okay to do so.

Which brings me to my first question: How soon can I re-dye it without doing horrendous damage to my hair? This is one of my biggest concerns. I've heard to wait at LEAST two weeks, even to fix up a really horrible dye job, or it'll be a disaster for your hair. But I doubt that's exact. AND, this stuff doesn't have ammonia. Does that actually have that big an impact on hair?

And my other question: For you girls (or guys) who have had black hair in the past, and kept it up pretty well, what'd you do? What kind of dye did you use, and how often did you do it?

Is this a decent brand for kind-of-frequent dyeing?

I really want to do this, but I have so many questions!
hey girl, d'you color your hair?
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I don't know anything about the particular brand you've chosen, but ammonia-free products are much gentler than those which contain ammonia. Is ColorSilk a demi-permanent? Demi-permanents are quite easy on your hair.

Ammonia is usually present in permanent dyes. There's a trade-off there. A permanent dye will last much longer but it will be more damaging to your hair.

As for waiting before you dye again -- you don't need to. Your hair won't repair itself. Whether you dye now or a month from now really makes no difference. (The only way you get healthier hair by waiting is if you wait for all new growth.) Waiting at least 24 hours after shampooing is a good idea -- the natural oils can protect your scalp from chemical irritation.

I've never dyed my hair black before. Maybe someone who has some experience with this will have some recommendations on the best product for you.

P.S. When it comes to hair colour, I'm a 3-box girl. (Way too much hair.)
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This says ammonia-free permanent dye. I'm a bit skeptical, because this definitely seems too good to be true-- but I figure, how wrong can you go with black? Especially if it's a low-damage dye, it's not like it can make it TOO black--

Dunno. Going to go give it a go. I'll definitely post about what happens.

This seems like a great board for people like me-- I've had my fair share of hair colors and styles. Ha ha, are there ever some stories there...
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Good luck.
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*POST-DYE UPDATE*

The Revlon Colorsilk (black, not soft black or blue black) worked fantastically, without any ammonia. It's also a very cheap box dye, so I'm surprised my black turned out so great. I don't know how other colors would work, but I'm very pleased with this brand so far. It is a very deep black, and it left my hair in awesome condition. I guess the only thing left to go wrong is fading. I will update in a couple weeks about how long this black shade ends up lasting, in case anyone else ends up facing a similar dilemma.

And thanks for your quick replies, korsakovhatt3!
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I can't get the black out of my hair, I have lighter brown roots and I am feeling ugly because of it. I need a way that won't damage my hair or turn it orange any suggestions?
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I'm glad it turned out well. Hooray, elliejay!

Karee, can you afford to go to a pro to get your hair colour fixed?

You can do it at home, but you'll have to be very careful and carefully test strand before each step of the process. Is the colour in your hair a demi-permanent or permanent colour? Unfortunately, nothing will return your hair to its natural colour at this point. (Other than growing all new hair.) If it's permanent you can remove it with ColorFix or Igora Modulat. They're much less damaging than bleaching. ColorFix will remove the permanent dye from your hair and expose some of your natural pigment -- likely an icky orange. You'll have to dye it to your desired shade. (Do some test strands before putting a colour on your head.) If you want light brown, try a blue-based ash shade. You'll need the blue to counteract the orange.

If the dye in your hair is a demi-permanent colour, I think the Uncolor System removes demis.

Good luck.
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Hey ya'll. I had a horrible black-dye fiasco bout 4 weeks ago and i'm super scared cuz i already asked sally's ppl and a pro. and no luck. The whole "once u go black u cant go back" saying is totally true. I'm thinkin we are screwed but we shall see. I'll find a way... hopefully!! ttyl!
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I've been coloring my hair black for about 4 months now.I use natural instincts midnight black and am pretty happy with it.It didn't damage my hair at all. Good luck to you!
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Originally posted by elliejay elliejay wrote:

*POST-DYE UPDATE*

The Revlon Colorsilk (black, not soft black or blue black) worked fantastically, without any ammonia. It's also a very cheap box dye, so I'm surprised my black turned out so great. I don't know how other colors would work, but I'm very pleased with this brand so far. It is a very deep black, and it left my hair in awesome condition. I guess the only thing left to go wrong is fading. I will update in a couple weeks about how long this black shade ends up lasting, in case anyone else ends up facing a similar dilemma.

And thanks for your quick replies, korsakovhatt3!


The only other thing u can do now to prevent ur perfect black hair from fading is to use a color-enhancing shampoo, one w/ a bluish color (paul mitchell is one brand that carries this kind) which adds to the black tones in ur hair to make sure it doesn't end up fading to an icky dull brown.
Wanna switch haircolors? :-PI have naturally black hair w/ a keep coloring red w/ a high volume of peroxide on the roots so it lifts, lol.
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