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    Posted: March 30 2004 at 1:09pm
Hi,
I have a 13 year old daughter who has naturally curly hair. I'm so jealous. But she, of course, wants straight hair. I've tried blow drying it straight, but that doesn't help. She has a lot of hair. I tried straigtening it with one of those hand held straighteners, but it only burned the ends of her hair. I've tried Frizz Ease, a couple of Paul Mitchell frizzy hair solutions. Nothing seems to help. She likes her hair when it's wet, cause she sees it straight (or a wet wavy, which is good enough for her). But once it dries, it poofs out and she hates that. So her hair is always in a pony tail. But the pony tail looks like a poodle tail. I would like to try some home rememdies if anyone has any ideas... I read the one about the olive oil and might try that this weekend.
Please help.
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Try a reverse perm. I think hair is pulled straight somehow while the perm chemicals are put on.

Ogilvie makes perming products, and they have straight perm kits. You can buy this at a drugstore like Rite-Aid, Albertsons, Walgreens etc.

Perms are forever, the hair that you daughter has now, from tip to root will never be curly or puffy hair, but instead flat, limp hair. when her hair grows it willl look weird, curly near the roots and straight everywhere else and you have to either get a curly perm or redo the straightening perm.
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try bone straight
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Yep - depending on how long the hair is, get bigger rollers and perm it on them... That'll make it virtually straight and really easy to style, as it'll hold whatever you style it into ..
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You should try using hair gel.
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My advice is to help your daughter accept her curly hair rather than fight it. Permanent straighteners are a potential but temporary solution as overuse will fry her hair and eventually make it frizzier than it is when it's curly--unless you want to spend $500-$1000 at a salon, where there are some miraculous but incredibly expensive permanent hair straightening methods.

So, if you decide to help your daughter love her curls, here's how you start.

First, the right haircut is important. I've tried almost everything over the years & found that the longer my hair is, the less curly/frizzy it is. In fact, when my hair is below shoulder length I tend to get a nice curl even in August humidity.

Get her haircut every 3-4 months, not every 6 weeks (getting your hair cut every 6 weeks does NOT make it grow faster. I swear this is a ploy created by hair salons to get people to spend their money more often). Avoid layering her hair, as this increases curls/frizz. Any layers should start below chin length.

I know changing hairstyle takes time and 14 year olds are not very patient, but if she can stay cool for 6-12 mos. she'll see the results.

Second is conditioning. If she gets her hair cut less she must deep condition with heat at least once a week. There are a variety of heat caps out there that'll do the trick. I recommend using a high-end deep conditioner, like Phytologie or Alterna.

Finally, the right styling products make a world of difference. I use a lot of glosses--my favorites are Rusk's Shining and Deep Shine. Also I use a tiny bit of a very heavy pomade, my favorite is Phytospecific Beauty Styling Creme by Phytologie, the stuff is truly amazing.

Hope this helps a little..........
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i agree but if its that bad try bone straight its a temp product... you put it in your hair and then blow dry than when u want it curly again just wash your hair :)
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I have really curly hair, from what you've said, even curlier than your daughters. Even when my hair is wet it is still curly, not wavy, but curly. I am only 16 now but i was about the age of your daughter when i first started to like my hair, you just ahve to know how to handle it. Here are some helpful hints to taming curly hair: 1. long is better, the length weighs down the hair and makes it less poufy... 2. don't brush it after every shower, brushing your hair separates the curls and therefore makes more of them... 3. find a good hair dresser that knows what they are doing, it is difficult to find one that knows how to cut curly hair, but once you have one, keep her... 4. lastly, find the right products, i have foudn that using mousse and then a little gel works well but you need to be careful that the products dont cause build up... and dont be afraid of the hairdryer... turn it on low power and low heat nd it will help to soften the curls and it wont cause her hair to pouf up
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Sometimes curly hair is a total pain and I totally understand why your daughter would want strait hair but if her hair is even half as bad as mine straitening properly can take HOURS. I get how she feels because im only 14 and i only just realised there's not much u can do about curly hair but if she gets a really good gel or mousse her hair might stay the way it is when it's wet. Be warned, there isn't much u can do to make her like it and if u make too many comments on how pretty it is she'll probably b really annoyed. If u want to help find a way to keep her hair from frizzing up.
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I am 23 years old, with extremely curly hair, lucky for me...its not super thick so I am able to blowdry and use a ceramic straight iron to achieve straight hair in little time. Unfortunately all of the abuse has almost destroyed by hair! From the time I hit junior high I was teased about my frizzy uncontrollable hair, and from that point I have done terrible and cruel things to it...only to have it rebel against me. Trust me when I say the best thing for your daughter to do, is to accept the curls at her early age and save herself, and her hair, many years of doing horrible and tedius things to get it straight...which in the end will make it worse...breakage, split ends and FRIZZ.

When I do wear my hair curly, I first use a handfull of mousse, then a superhold spraygel... comb it down with a widetoothed comb...do NOT scrunch it...I don't understand why people would want to do this to curly hair...yeah lets make it even fluffier!!!!! Anyhow, let it air dry for about 15 to 20 minutes - if shes like most teenagers this will give her just enough time to do her makeup, or fingernails - then use a blowdryer, on high, blowdry from the top down...DO NOT TOUCH IT while you are drying it - will only make it frizzy by separating the curls. just keep drying it until the hair is nice and crunchy - turn off the dryer - do not finger comb it, just crunch it by lightly squeezing it this will maintain a wet style curl. Encourage her not to touch her hair throughout the day...it will only make it frizzy.

If you are still wanting to help her get it straight, I ran across this product in a magazine...
www.easystraight.com
seems like a nice affordable product....was thinking of trying it myself, but my hair would probably fall out!! Also says that it is available at walgreens, eckerd, duane reade and brooks.
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Okay I Have Some Tips That I Think Will Help Your Daughter...
I Have Naturally Curly Hair and Found That I Like It Both Straight AND Curly.
For Straight Hair, I Blow Dry My Hair When It Is In Between Wet/Damp. I Bought A Huge Brush At Sally's Beauty Supply For About $20 , And The Brush Works Wonders. You Also Need A Really Good Dryer With A High Heat Setting.
When I Wear My Hair Curly I Make Sure I Use A Good Conditioner. (Curly Hair Will Never Look Good Unless It's Healthy.) I Keep A Big-Toothed Comb In My Shower And Brush My Hair IN The Shower. When I Get Out I Put A Leave In Conditioner In My Hair, Followed By Garnier Fructis Smoothing Milk. I Let My Hair Air Dry, Then Put In Tons Of Gel.
I Hope These Tips Work For You!
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Curly hair is not a curse, it's all about the right products and the patience to take care of it.

My daughter has natural, beautiful long curly hair (much like Halle Berry's new look). It took quite a bit of time for us to figure out how to work with it, but one of the best websites we've found is http://www.ouidad.com. This site lets you do a profile, and them picks the products that would be most beneficial to you. A bit on the expensive side, but well worth the money if you really want to love your curls.

Also, find someone who specializes in cutting curly hair and is in high demand. My daughter and I recently found a woman in Huntington Beach, CA, who is in constant demand for her talents regarding curly hair cuts.

The Ouidad website also helps you to find salons and stylists in your area who have gone to school or specialize in Ouidad's "slice and dice" cuts.

For anyone in the Orange County, California, area who is looking for a superb stylist, let me know and I'll be happy to provide you with the information that you're looking for.

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I also have very curly hair, and agree that it is usually more manageable longer, but I think the problem is that when it is not cut for ages the split ends tend to tangle making it less managable. At the moment though I have mine chin length at the front but really short at the back, which seems to be managable.
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I am 14 and i used to hate my curly hair when i was 13. We went to tons of stylists that specialize in curly hair. Here is what to do have layers that aren't to spread out have a lot of them starting 1/2 way down the head. Do Not touch your hair very much at all during the day. Grow it out longer because beleive me it will make a world of diffrence.
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I feel her pain. I was a 14 year old in the 80s so there was that all too brief period of time that my hair was "cool". Everyone ran out to get a spiral perm, and I had mine naturally! The trend ended too quick :(
I learned a trick a few years ago from my hair dresser. Lamanents worked well, but felt greasy to me, so she showed me how to use a big blob of mousse and just a dab of Lamanents and mix them togther in the palm of your hand. Apply it from the ends up, not to heavy near your roots. Blow it dry with a defuser on the end of your blow dryier or it will frizz out. I think another person said this before, but its key to curly hair. Once its done, try not to touch it for the remainder of the day or it will break up the curls and frizz. Lamanents really is a great product, weather you are streightening out leaving it curly. It keeps it from looking dry and dammaged.
I am finally, at 34, having extenso done in a few weeks on my hair. Ill let all of you know how it turnes out.
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hihi
im 14 too
and i have curly hair that gets poofy wen itz not wet unless i put oil in it
i always put oil in after i wash my hair every other day
depends on how she is mixed
im mixed blk and chinese so i have corkscrew hair that iz really good(i guess)
i put gel in it if i dont feel like washing it which will keep it from getting frizzy

hope it helpz!!
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Maureen, Like your daughter i have a lot of hair that is really curly. it's better as im getting older but at one time, it was a diasaster.
One of the best things i did was like another reader said, to grow out your hair. Curly hair is at it's "worst" (frizziest) in the early teens and i'm sure you know, very hard to tame. Good curly hair starts with the cut, without a doubt. NO SUPERCUTS! How do you find a good stylist? Wherever you are, if you see a woman with a head of beautiful curly hair, stop her and ask where she gets her hair done. She will be flattered, i'm sure and you will have the name of a great stylist.
i've tried a cut that was very successful at taming my hair but takes a talented stylist. it's a very simple concept called inverted layers. The hair is layered in sections and shorter layers are underneath. Thus you avoid the poodle look and end up with not so big hair and a smooth flow of curls.
i like my hair a bit crunchy/wet, too. i use a smoothing cream for the frizzier portions, brush thru and then apply a heavy gel, "Tresseme" and use the heaviest hold. Brush this thru and allow to air dry or use a diffuser on LOW and dry partially.
It will be trial and error until you find products that work best on her hair and do not be afraid to use more than one product on her hair at a time.
OH, another tip! Do not use any products with alcohol as an ingredient, this will only encourage frizzies!
CO wash only since September '04! Dyed red botticelli curls (3b), fine and just past shoulder length
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Is that the Ouidad cut? I tried it once but it didn't look much different than my regular cut. What I've found is either growing it all one length or just having very long layers is the best.

I moved about 2 years ago & I just had my first decent haircut since. I tried referrals but what I ended up doing was calling an upscale salon & asking them if they had someone who specialized in curly hair, ended up w/a great stylist.

The main ingredient in my styling cream (Phytospecific) is shea butter. I swear by this stuff--it's really miraculous (www.beatysak.com).
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Originally posted by Katie Scarlett Katie Scarlett wrote:

Is that the Ouidad cut? I tried it once but it didn't look much different than my regular cut. What I've found is either growing it all one length or just having very long layers is the best.


Mmmm, no, it's not the Ouidad cut. i don't think much of the Oiudad method, "cutting and slicing" and on the website it says never to layer curly hair. What a load of baloney! i don't know what i'd do with my hair if it wasn't in layers.
I'm growing out my once super-short hair and my stylist suggested inverted layers while it was in a difficult stage and it helped me get through the in-between look that is so tough to manage. it really helps if you like the look of long, endless curls because the shorter hair is underneath the longer portions. Inverted or reverse layering. . . Not as practical with really long curls unless your hair is super thick, it will help with the bulk.
Wish i had pics when i had the cut, it's kindof hard to explain. Just got a new cut from a new stylist and he hit dead on! Forgot what a difference it makes to have a fresh cut.
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Does any one have a suggestion for a 2yr olds hair? My daughter is Cuban/Jamaican-Italian and she has very curly dry and tangled hair everynight is a fight with her to comb her hair, any products for her that can help that are tear free?
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