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    Posted: July 01 2005 at 2:24am

ok this is WAAAAY off topic, but Im having a cyber stalker problem.  Its not some creepy guy trying ot have his way with me or anything *haha*, but its a middle aged woman who keeps trying to shove her religion down my throat.  I have politely told her many a times, that I wasnt interested, but she continues.  Then I not-so-politely told her to leave me alone and she STILL continues.  She doesnt know I am on any hair boards thank god, haha, but shes posting everywhere I am, harassing me, sending me emails, and its getting so I want to gouge out her eyeballs with a rusty spoon.  Every time I block her email she gets another one, every time I block her usernames from the other boards I go to she gets a new one, its friggin irritating as hell.

Should I contact her ISP provider and tell them about it or what?  And please understand, I do not go to ANY message board that talks about religion, so these are all unfounded.  It would be like her coming here and posting this stuff

heres one of her posts to me, after I polietly told her I wasnt interested in converting to christianity, that I founf to many hyppocracies yada yada.  To set the record stright I accept everyones religion, and I have nothing against christians, its just not for me.  heres the post.  Oh P.S. a lot of times she'll sign it fron "jesus" and say she was channeling him through her.  I fear for this mentally distrubed womans children.

 

"To Kalika, excuses

I think people make up excuses why they don't come to Christ by picking on how imperfect Christians are. I don't think it would matter if Christians were perfect, people would come up with another excuse why they do not want to serve Christ.

When it comes to Eternal life,people should not reject it just because someone else is a hyprocrite. Why go to hell because someone else is a hyprocrite . That is pretty dum, to go to hell because someone else is a hyprocrite. Why not serve Christ and be an example to other Christians on how one should act?

You say you don't have an issue with Jesus but if you don't have an issue with Jesus then why do you get upset with the name of Jesus and what he represents, salvation?

I don't know you well enough to know if you are a Christian yourself or not. But why get offended at Christ? Why does anyone get offended with the preaching of the gospel?

Is it because they feel they can not have fun as a Christian? Or what is it?

Now most people believe they are saved by good works but good works do not save anyone. The only person that saves anyone is Jesus. Our own righteousness is nothing but sin in the eyes of a righteous God.

so you maybe right that Christians are hyporcrites. Why? because all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. That does't disclude Christians. It means everyone has fallen short of the glory of God. There is no one righteous based on good works. We only become righteous though Jesus.

Righteousness is not good works but a free gift though Jesus Christ. In other words Jesus gives us his robe of righteousness so that we can have a relationship with a God who can not stand seeing sin.

Now a true born again person does not want to sin but sins because they are human. They don't plan to sin. They don't wake up one morning and say, "Hey I think, I'll comment adultery today because I can later on repent and Jesus will forgive me." There could be some that would do that but if they really love God they wouldn't do that. They may sin without realising they sin, because they are human but not because they wanted too.

You shared a link with me on Christians who are not perfect but could this be a cope out to avoid the issue of salvation? It doesn't really matter about the other people but what you want to do with Jesus.

When God asked a person why they did not receive Jesus, he will not accept their excuses that they did not receive him because Christians are hyprocrites. That is a pretty poor excuse to use the burning times, the faults of other Christians as to why one did not recieve Jesus. I don't really think these excuses are really true excuses. Because I still feel they would find an excuse to reject Christ even if Christians were perfect. Jesus was rejected by the pharisees and he was the only person that walked this planet that was perfect. So if a perfect person such as Jesus could be hated and rejected then I am sure that Christians who are not perfect will also be hated and rejected.

So my question to you is have you receive Jesus as your Lord and if you haven't why? Please don't use other people as your excuse that they are poor witnesses or hypocrites. What is the real reason why you have not receive Jesus if you haven't all ready? "

 

Now Im not trying to start a religious debate, like i said I  have nothing against christianity, but its this same sh*t over and over and OVER AND OVER and Im getting quite fed up.  Here's even more of her nuttiness...

 

"The good Lord means for me to bring any and all Vampires into his holy light"        yes, the lady is convinced Im a friggin vampire.  wtf?

 

"You should lend aide to my holy mission, by following my lead and not giving me away. Continuing to hinder my righteous efforts to save Hell-bound souls will bring the wrath of Jesus upon you in ways you cannot begin to imagine. You may be precluded from the redemption at the Dawning of the glorious Second Coming. That's when the Savior's mighty hand will destroy the wicked and righteous alike, for not pledging their allegiance."

"I am sure you have horrible night mares of war. You seen things that noneof us seen. The men in the vietnam war havenight mares. Sometimes they think they are still there. Do you ever feel like you are there? Have night mares of being at war? "

"hope you are not too mad at me for channeling Jesus at that ******* board. Just too many insults and hate so I invited him to post. Jeffrey needed to hear from him and so did the others.
It seems Kalika left. She could handle the hate and the insults but not Jesus." 

"If I were to feed it would be the white stuff but not too many males can lactate so since I like guys I pass on it."  WTF??!!!

BAH, there is so much more trash, about how she excorsized demons from her kids and stuff.  This is a woman in her mid 40's, a single parent, raising 5 kids in her parents trailor.  No she does not know how to drive either.  I feel sorry for her but at the same time think shes a complete nutball and I cant get rid of her!!!

Advise please.  Im going friggin nuts.

 

P.S. sorry if my spellings off, Im just very angry.  this has been going on for damn near a month.  And I cant set up my email to only get messages from "approved senders" so thats out :(

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Well, if you don't have a blocking feature on your email (you mean you have no option to block anyone?), one suggestion is to download Mail Washer http://www.firetrust.com/firetrustpro.html. There is a free 30-day trial and it has an amazing bounce feature. It's very simple to use. When email comes in, you can put a check mark by their name and hit "bounce." This sends the email back to the sender with the MAILER-DAEMON response that the email user does not exist. It's incredibly authentic looking and does not contain any of your IP header information. I had to use it once and never received email again from the person I did that to.

The other suggestion is to simply take a small break away from the forums she's accustomed to seeing you in and commit to not responding to her whatsoever.
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Maybe it really is jesus

 

Isn't this illegal? I think you should seriously consder repoting her to her ISP, or event he police?

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GAH, I got this now

"You know what Kalika?Do whatever you want.I understand your religion.I know you are keoran.I understand asian culture."

WTF?  A. I am not korean, as if it matters anyways, and B. My personality shouldnt be based on a race I may or may not be. 

ARGH.

*sticks a curing iron up her butt"

Yeah, I think I'll report her to her ISP.

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I had a guy stalking me on yahoo groups a while back. I ended up quitting groups, luckily he lives in Brazil. Scary.

Maybe you're being too polite. Try being really offensive.

Try and recruit her into the adult industry. Be firm. Be dominant. Don't let her get away with this insolence. Be persistent.


Just looking for a few good hair slaves - is that too much to ask?
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okay if she were sane refuting her arguments wouldn't be hard.  But she's not so logic won't work and more importantly getting away from her is number one priority.

Personally I'd get her IP info off one of these sites and report her to her ISP.  Report her every time she does this from now on.  And if you are at all afraid that she might escalate and find out where you are int he physical world make a very detailed log of all her harrassment.  that way as soon as she starts up in the real world you will have appropriate info to provide the police.

Also I think amm may have a good point that you want to maybe stay away from some these other forums for a while.  also I'm guessing you have reported her to the moderators/admins at the other boards you go to?  please do.

I don't know what kind of account you have for email.  amm's program may work.  If you have apprpriate access you could email the people you want to get mail from and switch accounts at least temporarily.  Have the one she is using actually shut down for a week or two or whatever you think is an appropriate period of time and then the mail really will bounce.  If she is at all internet savvy and you have an email account with a local ISP/business/school etc she already has a way to get info on your physical location.


In conclusion, report report report, log log log, ignore ignore ignore.
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Ok, so now I am a korean vampire.  wow.  I must have missed the memo.

*cough*

Anyways, how do I go about reporting her to her isp?

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you have received emails from her?  I'm guessing they aren't from like aol or anything obvious like that right?

find out the IP address she is logging in from, from one of the boards.  then whois that IP address.  that should give you appropriate contact info.
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SPAM the email you get from her, and report her.
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Originally posted by mochachip mochachip wrote:


find out the IP address she is logging in from, from one of the boards.  then whois that IP address.  that should give you appropriate contact info.

 

oh, got it!

sprintlink.net.  bitch be going down.  muuuahahahahaha.

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gees i am a christian, i think its time to convert to something else now... what a crazy biotch
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nonono, christians are fine.  but nuts arnt, regardless what religion they practice
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A friend of mine uses a 'whitelist' program, which is the opposite of a blacklist- certain confirmed senders can send him email, but everyone else gets a message bounced saying "please confirm that this is not bulk email". They then have to reply to that email with the authorization key given in the email. It's not hard to do, but she might be too stupid or lazy to do it. And for everyone else (actual friends), you can add their addresses to the whitelist and they don't get hassled by the program at all. Here's the website: http://tmda.net/

And yeah, definitely report her to her ISP, possibly to SpamCop and anywhere else you're allowed to report spammers ('cause she IS spamming you, and other people!) If it continues, consider filing a plice report for harassment- if nothing else, so you have a paper trail if anything more serious happens in the future.

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Does this Gal know where you live?

Seriously, I would consider going on down to my local police Dept and filing a report incase she shows up on your door step....not to mention Social Services should check out the children living in that trailer....
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By the way, I am Christian~ shes not Christian, shes a nut case!
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if you knew where she was it would help as then her local police would get involved. however without knowing the city---so tell  her this

 

You have changed my mind. This morning I was almost hit by a bus. Jesus came to me in a flash of light and all of a sudden I was thrown onto the side of the road with such force by an unknown hand. I owe it to you, if it was not for your emails helping me see, I would be dead. I need your teaching and procatice. Can you help me? Please, my life has no meaning. Please please show me the way. Can I call you? (if she gives you a # you are all set...) Please dont desert me now, it is you I need to speak with, I fear I may slit my wrist as I have done 8 years ago and not be so lucky this time. Please, let me call you.

 

just try it, what have you got to lose maybe the nut will give you her #. than reverse it in anywho.com, find the city, get her address, call her local police. then fax them all the email with headers.

 

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that's a good idea missy! very creative.
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this gal is into something other then chritianlity- let me tell you, i am also a christian and her talk of "channeling" well that is not christian, i also think she is into the "hell and brimstone" christianlity or what ever she is doing. which means she is trying to beat you up with her bible. geesh talk about a hypocrate,

i would either do what missy said, or tell her that you already are a christian and that according to YOUR bible, the practices and ways she is trying to reach out to people goes againist the true teachings of christ and for her to leave you alone.

as far as setting an example and trying to reach others, someone once told me the best way was to think like this:

you may be the only bible someone will ever read.

good luck- hey why dont u post her email addy here and we can all start flodding her mail box with stuff telling her to leave u alone-

 

 

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{{{{{{{{Kalika}}}}}}}}}.  I wonder if this is Carrie's mother????  Remember the movie???  I can see why you would be scared about this.  I am also leaning towards telling the police because you should have a report on file "just in case" something happens.  Good luck and stay safe.
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Call me Miss Moderation, here, but I think the first step is to contact her ISP.  Unless she's using some backwater noname company, she is incredibly likely to be in breach of the company's terms of use.  Harrassment is not allowed...because the ISP doesn't want to get sued.  It's much cheaper to just drop a subscriber than to risk going to court.

It looks like she's using Sprint, according to one of the posts above.  According to their website, "You can forward a copy of any SPAM or UCE received via the Sprintlink network directly to abuse@sprint.net."

According to this page (http://www.sprintlink.net/policy/abuse.html), she is definitely in violation of policy, so forward everything she's sent you to that address above.
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Oh my gosh!  It wouldn`t surprise me at all if police did end up investigating it and discovered this woman is scitzophrenic.  They really believe their own delusions and very often mention jesus alot. Also scitzophrenic people are often obsessed with the notion that he (Jesus) personally talks to them! Regardless, she does sound mentally unstable, not to mention  a total fanatic. What person in their right mind harrasses like that (creepy!) and the things she talks about are just WIERD! I am christian too but the way she goes on sounds  a very disturbed person. I feel for you Kalika.  I think though you have already been given some good advice. Just take it!

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