QuoteReplyTopic: Making Improvements Here! Posted: March 19 2006 at 2:18am
So the last few weeks have been a little rocky. There have been lots of fights and other behind the scene brawls. I suspect that it is time to step back and make things better so I am trying very hard to get all of your input via some polls so that things can go back to running as smoothly as possible.
Please bear with me on the polls. I want to get your feedback and polls are the easiest since they are anonymous and everyone can vote freely.
I have said this before, this is my favorite topic at HairTalk and I visit here daily to read all the posts. Please help me keep it a wonderful place to visit and share.
Thanks in advance for answering the polls. I will do my very best to be fair and try to make changes as per the majority interests.
Edited by Karen Shelton
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I hate sub-forums that are broken into 1000 different forums. Maybe its just laziness on my part, but I don't want to have to look through 5 different extension forums just to find an anwser Im looking for, or to help someone with questions of their own. I like the setup the way it is now, and in all honesty find the "shrinkthingies" thing silly. Its an extention method therefor I think we should be able to discuss it on here.
Breaking up the forum even more is just... I dunno, redundant. Would you split up the long hair support forum for "professional hairdressers, long hair styles, shampoo's and conditioners, photos, braiding patterns, trimming methods" etc? I would hope not, because it just seems very unnecessary.
The only other sub-sub forum I can see you adding is possibly wigs, but other then that I think the extension forum should be left the way it is now.
I agree with Kalika, I don't mind the shrinkies being called shrinkthingies but I'd rather just see everything as it is on here, I for one can't be bothered looking at the other threads lol, I'm just too lazy, I'll just click on this one and probably Sherries but to be honest I think the other ones will become redundant. I mean, we have a trade thread but it hardly gets used, if anyone has anything they put it on here, they forget that's there even though its at the top.
I think you've done a superb job Karen, keeping the trolls at bay. I think that's all that needs to be done really. We are in majority women (sorry Moff) and women don't always agree on things and hair I've found is a very touchy subject with a lot so there are bound to be a lot of heated discussions. Saying that, people should sometimes think about how the thread will go if they say exactly what they think and perhaps have a cup of tea and then see if they want to write the same bearing in mind the subject that was started could actually be a viable discussion subject and then it just gets closed, so its not really fair for whoever opened it xxx
I was offline for awhile and missed the whole mess, but I dont see a difference in calling them "shrinkies" vs "shrinkthingies" as we all know what it means anyway. And personally I also like the forum as is!
The only problem I see with shrinkthingies is what about those poor
unsuspecting newbies who come on here and accidentally say the s@#$*!?
@# word? (and for the record I agree with Kalika thats its a bit silly, it's like if
I said I'd used cellotape to wrap a package and then someone came on and
said 'no, actually you got that from the dollar store and it isnt cellotape
brand at all, its another generic version, you're in trouble now!' )
But I say leave the forum as-is. My we are a lazy bunch aren't we :) haha.
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karen, i understand there were issues with shrinkthingies topic, but i guess if you elaborate on what exactly is the issue, what exactly we can or cant talk about, will help us help you.
I agree totally with other posters on this thread esp kalika who said we are only discussing the technique on this board and thats what this board is for. So is it the name shrinkies that is touchy, but what is the difference between shrinkies and shrinkthingies? For one there is more to type....
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Karen, you do a fabulous job running this site. I've been impressed by
your fairness, your integrity, and your ability to articulate a problem and
come up with a good solution.
The Extension Forum is one of the best message boards I've ever
participated in. We're a bunch of passionate, helpful people who have
strong opinions and aren't afraid to express them. For me, the tension
and heated discussion are part of what makes a message board fun. I'm
philosophically opposed to banning people and locking down threads
because I've seen what it can do to squelch a vibrant, active board.
It is a tough job you do, facilitating great discussion while keeping the
loonies at bay. I don't know what happened with Aphrodite (So. Cal had
one of its rare lightning storms, so I had my computer off) but she
seemed to have a lot to contribute in her posts so I'll miss her being on
this forum.
My preference would be to temporarily shut down a thread or prevent a
person who was out-of-control from posting to allow a situation to cool
down, then to let the discussion proceed in a calmer fashion later. I
would hate to see this Forum go the way of other online sites I've
participated in, where a small minority who couldn't stand any conflict at
all were allowed to set the tone for everyone.
I think that as far as message boards go, this one is by far the most friendly and supportive. Arguments on this board have been mild in comparison to other forums on the internet. And, honestly, I never did think there was a problem.
In real life, you're always going to run into nasty people, and you just deal with it. It's nice to have the option to ban people, but I think it should be used very sparingly. I don't have a problem with locking threads that have digressed into arguments and insults without any informative content.
With regard to the advertisements, I wouldn't have known where to go or what to buy without the, um, dare I say ads from some of the board's frequent posters. Maybe Karen could have an approved list of "advertisers" made up of people who also post substantive information?
I also think that we should be free to discuss the shrinkthingies. Many posters use them and have questions about them. To not allow discussions does everyone a disservice. I don't know what the argument was about, but the rest of the board shouldn't be punished for it.
So, in sum, keep things way they were - we have it good here!
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Im not really an active member here and I dont know what all happened but just popped into say that there is really no totally fail proof system. And you seem to already have a good working "product". So I wouldnt let a couple tough days cause u to change what was already working...
IMO shrinkthingies has way too many characters in it and I would just end up typing the forbidden word just b/c Im ... well ...lazy too
PS I think its great that u are asking for people's opinions either way...
I like things the way they are too. And agree w/ Kalika, I'd like to see a wigs section.
And on anohter thread, i suggested SHRINKS for a substitute name.
I like things the way they are too. And agree w/ Kalika, I'd like to see a wigs section. And on anohter thread, i suggested SHRINKS for a substitute name.
Kalika & Koffee....
Just wigs in general or a specific topic related to wigs?
Thanks in advance. Karen
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The forum is great just the way it is now! Seperating it between pro's and DIY'ers serves no purpose, and breaking it down into more categories just makes it more tedious and annoying to get to what you're looking for. Please don't make any changes!
I'd love a Wigs Forum. Last year when I was seeking information about
wigs, I started in the Short Hair Forum and didn't get much help. I've
observed that the topic of wigs floats around several of the forums with
sporadic interest. It would be great to have one place where this topic
could be discussed and archived.
Here's to the end of my BAD HAIR LIFE!
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IMO, I don't see a need for change. I don't think anything is broken so no need for a fix. I agree with Kalika on the subdomains, I'd rather see everything right here. This is actually the only forum I visit on the board.
I didn't get the whole shrinkie's thing either.
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Heres my 2 cents! I do feel that a board with categories is a good idea. Its easier to read and post just what you are interested in. I personally have no interest in wigs...so thats a waste for me to shuffle through. Or if I want to post or read about dying/bleaching or find a tidbit of information it would be easier to find. But I also agree that only a few categories is necessary. You wouldnt want the information too spread out in to many places. That would make it more confusing than anything.
I always liked the quinnster board. I thought it worked and ran very well. But this board is so huge and there is so much information here that it would be impossible to seperate it all into categories, and would just totally confuse things, and everyone would be lost. Threads here have never been sorted so lots of threads go into many different subjects. So I just dont see that categorizing would be a good thing here or even possible. If a forum starts out with categories thats fine, and it works well. But it wouldnt be good here.
It works out fine here the way it is so....even though I think a categorized forum is a good thing...I wouldnt want to change this one.
Say what you mean, mean what you say, but don't say it mean.
Don't feed into negative posts by responding with harsh words to one up them. Ignore them and they WILL go away! Some people do start trouble intentionally for whatever reason but try to be dignified and ignore their posts.
Life is unfair but I have learned most in life by my mistakes.
I for the most part like the board the way it is. I didn't really get into the shrinkie ordeal and didn't read any of the posts until after the fact but didn't see anything wrong with the topic of who owns, what are they called, who sells them, etc.. posts. After all, this is how to obtain information.
On the topic of banning people, I have seen Senior Members that have not been banned for the same thing a Newbie has been banned for. I don't agree with that. Rules should apply to everyone.
This format is great and I have enjoyed this forum although I am not here as much as I would like to be.
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