QuoteReplyTopic: tiffany twists? fusion or glue? Posted: October 04 2007 at 1:05am
I have heard a lot about tiffany twists and went and checked out their website. Are they just another type of fusion method? Is it similar to GL or Socap? How safe are they? Are the hairlocs better? I was curious as I have been doing GL for a while and wanted to try something new but wanted it to look and feel natural as possible.
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TT is not a fusion method...it is a very gentle individual method that does not cause much damage!!! I love it! I am wearing a combination of it with a few wefts and it feels great. If you want to go to my post "new install and various reviews" I review TT there and there are also some pics of the bonds to give you a better idea of what it is...
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Tiffany Twist is a fusion method. It's wax based like parrafin with some color and some type of adhesive added. If you go to The land of the Lost Threads section here on HB you'll find a lot of info on the system. Because they're wax, they melt easily with heat ie hair dryers, heating elements etc.
I personally don't know of any other extension system that is as complicated or requires as much precision and restrictive care as Tiffany Twists. I think it could be fine for a few highlites or perimeter areas ecause it could be easier to avoid with heat but it's not a system I would want to use for a full head install. Here's the link to the TT topics in The Land. They have Tiffany Twist in the topics. http://talk.hairboutique.com//forum_topics.asp?FID=169 Here is another link where we ask her just about every question imaginable about her system http://talk.hairboutique.com//forum_posts.asp?TID=52870&KW=tiffany+twist&PN=1
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Sorry Ms. Honey I disagree with you...when I started with the weft system, I had to learn how to make them stay on as well...I think it is great for someone to do as a DIY method...Yes I do think that it would be difficult and time consuming to do it as a whole head method...however, I think it is possible...and if I had patience I would try it, but I have none...I did install several bonds in the front and right over my wefts to give that area more volume!
Also, I do not think that it is a problem that the melt easily...They will not melt easily from a hairdryer unless you are putting heat directly on them...I think that anyone who wants to try this as a DIY individual method and does not want damage...really should look into it...IMO anyways
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Applying direct heat is how most people dry their hair. I don't think a stylist would even bother with a client with TT in their hair. I like to rod my hair with Lotta Body and sit under the dryer to make my hairstyle last longer. That would be IMPOSSIBLE with TT. This is ONE of the restrictive care procedures that I was speaking of.
I don't see how this product is safer than any other product seeing that the inventer refuses to tell anyone what the bond is made of. Other fusion systems both hot and cold are safe to use with proper installation,maintenance and removal.
Having patience isn't the issue. Having patience to do a full install and not being able to touch my hair for hours is an issue. Having patience and hoping I stirred enough, had the wax melt on the right setting and hoping that it will stick is an issue. Having patience to do a full install that takes 6 hours to do and needs to be replace every six weeks that's an issue. Like I said before and will continue to say, for a few highlites fine, but a full head install no way.
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I'm not arguing. We don't agree, experiment away. I'm just not the type of person who likes to experiment with hundreds of dollars for a complicated fusion technique and my scalp.
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Well..this hasn't cost me anywhere near $100...and every single one of my friends that got fusion now regret it because of the amount of damage they had...and they went to the most reputable salons in the area...TT has definitley not ruined my scalp or hair at all...I think it's a system that newbies should try...I know that if I saw this system when I first started doing extensions I would wanna try it...
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My fusion doesn't cost me more than a few bucks but that's besides the point. People should be told the pros and cons of a system. For some reason when some people hear anything but glowing reports about TT they get defensive as if they sell the product themselves or somehing. I like fusion but I don't care if people wear keratin fusion or not nor do I get offended if someone doesn't like it.
And I know people who have had fusion and didn't suffer any damage at all including myself and my daughter. If she chooses to market it as a not damaging like fusion product then she needs to come up with something more concrete but then that's her. Like I said before, if it's properly installed maintained and removed fusion cold and hot doesn't cause damage.
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I agree that ALL METHODS when properly attached and removed do not cause damage...however I have found that with fusion there has been more damage than with other methods...
I could care less what people buy or decide put in their hair...I am just sharing my opinion and experience...I had a great experience with this method so I am sharin it...simple as that!
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What's your point? How have you found that there has been more damage with fusion than with other methods. Show me the stats. I'm sharing my experience too and so what? Keep it as simple as that then. There are opinions other than yours. TT has enough "I love it" reviews on her site that she doesn't need them here or does she?
Sofiaone asked about the techniques you've given your opinion of TT and I've given mine. You don't see this kind of thing with the other methods discussed on this board.
Why do TT users from a certain forum get all nutty when everybody doesn't drool all over this system? Everybody is not going to like this system and it is not as easy as it's made out to be.
Thanks ladies for your feedback. Ms. Honey, thanks for letting me know about the "heat" thing as I regularly use the hair dryer (high) and curlers, straightening irons, etc and wouldn't want to use something that I would have to worry about with heat. I guess if I was a "wash and go" kind of girl, this might work for me.
I have also tried fusion (keratin) and have had good luck with it. No damage. I was looking to try some other method just to compare. I am planning on trying the hairlocs/links type. I wonder if you have too and if you can tell me from your own experience if you found the fusion and locs to be equally invisible and/or comfortable in your hair. I know everyone has their own opinion on "safe" methods but I was more curious about looks. I think that both links and fusion are safe if you apply them safely and remove them safely.
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Hi sofia. I haven't tried the links or rings but if you do a search we have talked about them alot here. I agree with you about links and rings being safe if properly cared for.
The great thing about do it yourself installs is that you can try everything out there without spending loads of money.
I really like the idea of the links and rings. I think they're a much quicker take down because you don't have residue to remove as with fusion. I just prefer the fewer steps in the fusion install.
I think most link/ring wearers agree that you should use silicone-lined ones. Less risk of damage. Some say the unlined ones can cut your hair. I'm sure someone will chime in on the link/ring question.
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Mila, I'm really glad you found a system you like. That and and finding the right hair are the hardest part. It could take a long time....but come on girl! You keep talking about TT like she's the truth. didn't you see TT here all over the place and then go over to ippy, dippy and crew to talk about us? The moment we aren't really up for hearing about TT you give that poop place a reason to say "LOOK!!! they're so unfair!! We can say whatever we want." NOT TRUE!!
Did ya see what happened to me when I didn't do the to TT???
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Hey sofia!! I think you'll really like the tubes. The ones I use are the copper 'trumpet tubes'. They lay much flatter then a fusion bond. You do have to make sure you use enough natural hair or they may slip. Oh, and don't install too close to the scalp or they may hurt for a few days. Just like fusion, you need to have careful sectioning and careful after care. The upshot is that you do not need heat to install them and no chemicals to remove them, just pliers and patience. Here is a photo of a few I installed ...
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Absolutely stay away from TT if you use any heat at all...it is a mess. Makes you wonder when somebody new is so adament about how great a certain brand is. What ever happened to Tiffany?
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Ms.Honey wrote:
has to say?
all over the place and then go over to ippy, dippy and crew
to talk 
about us? The moment we aren't really up for hearing about TT you give that poop place a reason to say "LOOK!!! they're so unfair!! We can say whatever we want." NOT TRUE!! 
