Hi there! Its been so hectic here today. Sorry its taken me so long. I cant believe your mom's birthday is in August also LOL. This is getting to weird now!!!!!!! I'm in the midst of getting some pictures to have them put on the cake. I'm ordering the cake from this place by me. This woman is always on the Food Network channel. They do amazing work. The cake is going to be like $500 bucks but it will be worth it! Anyway, I cannot believe that both those schools do not offer the class. Its impossible that noone is offering the course. I don't think it would be on the website if it didnt exist! I'm going to have to do some research tonight when I get home. There's just no way. Trust me, we will find a place LOL. I really don't want to have to do the cosmetology class. I already spent like 7,000 on the esthetics course and the cosmetology course is another $17,000. Don't know if I want to even spend that kind of money especially the way the economy is.
I wonder who does Christina's hair!? I'm curious to see the hair that she has available. I'm def going for the consultation and I'll let you know how it goes. I just want to wear it for a few months to give my hair a "break" and let it grow. If she says she has the 613, thats pretty good. I've heard a lot of good things about her so I'm sure she is being pretty honest. What shade of blonde are you now? I know you said you were dark and then going gradually back to the blonde.
I think I may order from that website. How long has the DLux brand lasted?
Don't worry about the license - I will find a place LOL. Trust me, when I put my mind to something, I make it happen hahaha!
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I know right!! How weird. The cake sounds like it's going to be awesome! I love fancy cakes. Too bad you have to eat them after you spend all that money.. lol!! Oh well as long as it tastes good .
I knooooooow! I am so bummed but GOOD! We can be determined together and we will find a place lolol!! I had no idea cosmo school was THAT expensive. I for sure could not imagine shelling out so much money for something that might end up being useless. I've heard that they don't even touch on extensions so where is the point in that?
Ok, good. I'm glad you're going for the consultation. She deff does seem like a really nice girl so I wouldn't have any worries there. The micro-rings shouldn't be too damaging at all since really it's just a ring.. no glue or heat or acetone. Yeah, who knows about the 613. I mean it might sound crazy to have it in virgin but then again isn't it crazy that there's all this human hair floating around?? LOL. I still wonder where it comes from but whatever... .
I wore the d-lux with my clips in for a few months. I didn't wear them everyday usually on weekends. The hair is still in great condition so I think it should last awhile. Also, when you're not wearing the hair 24/7 I feel like it's not as harsh on the hair. I'd think if you were wearing it 24/7 with a regular install you could probabaly get maybe 6 months or so out of it.
Where are you going for the consultation? At her house?
Hey Melissa! Didn't get a chance to respond yesterday. Thursdays are crazy for me, I work both at the insurance company and then at the spa till 10 PM! Anyway, I did some further research regarding that license. The last course that was offered was in a school in Jamaica Queens. At the moment there is no school offering this course. I think we may have just missed it. A girl just finished a few months ago at the Queens school. I think the next avenue is to maybe call the state department of education and see what they say. There's got to be a way to attain the license. Its impossible.
The school I was looking into for the cosmetology course is a pretty well known respected school in NJ. I think thats why the price is so high. I went to Christine Valmy in NJ for the esthetics course and spend $7000. The cosmetology course there was $10K I believe. The tuition for cosmetology seems to be going up constantly, probably cause of the demand. Yes you can make a lot of money in it, BUT there is a ton of competition out there and you have to for the most part start at the bottom.
As far as Christina - I'm having the consultation at her home. She does travel, but I'd rather go out there. Do you think that is the method she does - the micro rings? I thought it was microchet - I have no idea. I'm relatively new with the hair extensions.
As far as the D Lux hair extnesions - did you make the clip ons or did you purchase them straight from the site with the clips on already?
Where in NY do you live?
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Ah, Thursday is a long day for you! But at least it's Friday. Do you work on the weekends? I don't so I always look forward to them :). Too bad it will be raining all weekend.. I want to go to the beach already!!
Yeah, blah! I agree that we should look into contacting the department of ed. There has to be some other way around it. I mean, it's just not fair. I'm wondering if maybe there's a school in NJ that offers it? Either way, we must find a way!
Yeah, there is a lot of competition in beauty. I love makeup but I don't feel like going through all the hassle to fight my way to the top. I feel like when you really have to fight for something, it sometimes takes the passion and the enjoyment out of it. I'd much rather just do makeup on myself and the occasional friend or family member and enjoy it rather than have to stress about it.
Yeah, you're not too far from SI right? I have family in South NJ and we always pass through to SI to get there. I think it's the easiest way from where I am. I live in Brooklyn. I guess kinda in the middle? I'm about 20-25 mins away from the city (only a few miles but of course with the traffic, etc it's longer) and about the same distance from SI. The highway is only like a two minute drive from my house.
I think the method she does is the micro-links. I think I called it micro-rings before but I'm pretty sure the correct term is links. They also have micro-tubes which are longer. I've never heard of the microchet method. I just looked it up and it seems like there is no tool involved but stringing the extension on to your own hair. I was reading Christina's website and she mentions using "tiny cylinder coils" so I'm guessing it is the micro-ring. There are two types; the regular ones have grooves on the insides like a screw and the other ones have a silicone liner in the middle. I don't know which one she uses. I'd prefer to go with the silicone as I think a groove might pull and be harsh on the hair.
With the d-lux hair I made my own clip-ins. I purchased the wefts and the clips and just did it myself.
I think that when Christina mentions the maintenance she means a full take down of the hair and a re-install. I was reading her website and myspace and I'm pretty sure that's what she means. So $500.00 isn't too bad but I also don't think the hair will last a lifetime. All of this hair is human hair and even the own hair on our head doesn't last a life time. Virgin or not.. the hair will still break and start to get old. Isn't that why we get haircuts? I mean I think 99.9% of people don't have the same hair they had on their head as infants or kids on their head right now. Eventually, it does get cut off. I'm sure her hair lasts awhile but I still think you'd have to purchase new hair after time. Especially if you're going to style it with heat.
But... it's only $500.00 for the re-install that means she she's charging you $1000.00 for the hair. That's a lot! Who knows. I'm not even sure what the going rate is in salons. They could be charging $2,000 or $3,000.
Didn't get a chance to get back in touch on Friday. I ran for the hills on Friday! lol - Had to get outta here. Unfortunately, I work on the weekends also Well Saturdays only. I work my regular job Monday thru Friday and then on Thursdays and Saturdays I work at a spa. Its a Medical spa. I assist the doctors with laser hair removal, photo facials, botox, etc. and then I do the regular stuff such as facials, massage, chemical peels, etc. Its very exhausting. I definitely need a vacation. Did you do anything exciting this weekend? I'm sick of the rain, this weekend is suppose to be nice!
I'm about 30 miles from Staten Island. We are fairly close to each other! I'm going to try and contact the department of education later on this afternoon and find out about this natural hairstyling license. I don't think NJ has it, but I will find out. I have the number to Jersey so I'll call there as well.
Ok so I met with Christina Saturday. She quoted me $2000 for the hair and the install!!!!!! She said that my hair is extremely thick and I will need a lot more hair than the average. It makes sense since I do really have thick hair. She charges $400 for the maintenance which will take place every 8 to 12 weeks. She showed me some of the hair bundles and they seemed pretty nice. Her extensions looked awesome. She was wearing russian wavy and they looks extremely natural. She uses tiny beads to clamp on the hair, sounds like micro links to me. What do you think of the price?
Also, check this out. I was researching her method online and came across this. www.jaiainc.us/quality.html If you check out the About Me Page, FAQ's, Quality, etc. on this page, they match her FAQ's, Quality, About Me, etc. on her own website at www.hairgoddessofny.com. I'm guessing she copied everything off of this website or vice versa. How crazy is that - I was disturbed LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I already have a case of the Mondays.. lol!! Aw, well at least you get one day to yourself. Better than nothing at all. It sounds like you have a lot on your hands but it's good that you're doing two things at one. I respect that! This weekend was so blah. That rain on Saturday was awful!! I just did some shopping but only a little because I'm pretty broke right now. I can't wait for next weekend.. assuming the weather is actually nice (that's what I heard too but who the heck knows), I will be at the beach!
I got an email back from the school in China Town. They are approved for the course but just not offering it. I'm going to see if there's some way one of the teachers there could teach us or help us out, something!!
Wow, $2,000.00 is a lot. Personally, I really feel like it's too much. There's no doubt in my mind that the hair she is using is probabaly very expensive but it still can't be used for years and years. I mean, what about shedding? The hair will eventually break down over the months. She's probabaly buying all the hair pre-tipped rather than tipping it herself. She could save money by buying it on wefts and then tipping them herself. She could save money for her clients.. and make extra money herself! How long is the hair she is installing? I guess the maintenance price isn't too bad. But I wonder if my maintenance she means just fix a few bonds at a time.. or if it's a full take down and re-install. I'm glad her hair looked nice. It looks nice in the pictures on her website as well.
That website thing is weird!! I wonder who copied who.. lol!! One thing that bothers me (this is on Christina's website and the other website) is this quote " I honor all of my clients' privacy, including models and actresses, so I would not advertise who I work on.". That sounds like a bunch of BS to me. I mean if they were doing a big shot, it's usually expected that you will show pics of them etc. It's a good way for you to get business.
Was Christina nice? I feel like it's hard to tell how these people will act in person from just reading their website.
Ughhhh I hate Mondays to. I could not sleep for the life of me last night and it took forever for me to fall asleep. I think I may have slept like 3 hours. Not sure how I will last a full day!!!!! What beach do you usually go to? I haven't been to a beach in over 2 years - can you believe that?
Well that's somewhat good news that the school in Chinatown is approved to do it. Maybe they haven't offered the course because of lack of interest? Maybe if we tell them that a few people are interested, they will offer the course. I hope so, I really want to take the course. There's definitely a way around it.
I nearly had a heart attack when she gave me the price LOL. I had hot flashes! The hair definitely comes pre tipped. The hair that was there was already pre tipped. I wonder how much the hair is alone. I asked her that, but she wouldn't disclose. She said she doesn't sell the hair by itself, only the hair with the installation. I also agree with you, there is no way that the hair will last a lifetime. Some of her clients say that the hair is still in good shape after 8 months which I believe, but definitely not for years. The hair that she is installing would be 18 inches. The maintenance price of $400 is her taking down the hair completely from what I gathered and then reinstalling a new coil. It has to be that because you should keep the coil in for more than 12 weeks anyway because of all the hair shedding.
hahahaha I agree with that quote. Please in my opinion, they haven't worked on any celebrities! They would definitely disclose them since it would bring more business. Also, a lot of celebrities have no problem saying that they use lace front wigs and/or hair extensions. I still cannot believe that her website and that other website are exactly the same. Makes me wonder if I should go and get my hair done LOL. She is a nice girl though. And has the craziest SI accent I've ever heard!
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I hate nights like that! I usually always wake up at least once during the night and then always around like 7-730am just a little before I have to get up. That's always annoying. I think I get paranoid that my alarm isn't going to go off so I somehow wake myself up!
Yeah, I'm going to email the school in China Town back. Hopefully we can get somewhere with them.
LOLOL!! That's weird that she wouldn't give you the price. I feel like stylists need to be as open as possible. You don't want to make your client feel uncomfortable. If I asked her and she didn't give an answer, it probabaly would've made me feel uncomfortable. I mean it doesn't matter that she doesn't sell just the hair, you want to know how much of an install charge there is! Yeah, 8 months is for sure true. I posted about how long Bohyme would last and Sherrie said about 6 months for blonde but sometimes longer for other colors. $400 for the maintenance isn't bad. I really hope she isn't paying $1,600 for that hair though! IMO, that wouldnt make sense especially if she only requires a $700 deposit. Where would the other money be coming from?
Yeah, I really don't think they have worked on anyone high end. The price seems like a lot. Did she have any pics of her clients? In a few of those photos I don't think they look very well blended. If you go to yourhairshop.com take a look at Kristin's work. Those are some undectable extensions!! LOL at her accent! Did you ever see on MTV True Life I'm a Staten Island Girl? OMG!! Those accents were so . I'm happy I don't have too much of a NY accent!! Just with some words but otherwise, I try to hide it!
Wow I just saw those installs on hairshop.com - NOW THOSE ARE SOME GREAT INSTALLS!!!!!!!!!!! I need to get that done! Those are very undetectable. To bad she isn't out here. Christina didn't really show me any pictures. But I keep seeing people on indeed.com or other websites say that they have gotten the hair extensions from her and that they are fantastic. But who knows. Maybe its her making different screen names and then saying that? LOL LOL hahaha I am nuts. I get paranoid with stuff like that. You never know! She originally quotes be $2500 but then went down to $2000. She said any extra hair that I needed, it would be on her. I guess she realized that the price was high. I really want to know how much the hair is. I'm not sure if I should pay the $2000K or not. I definitely do not want to get a regular sew in weave cause those things itch way to much. The clip ons are good, but I kinda just want something quick and will last until my hair is growing out.
LOL Oh yes I have seen that true life episode. UGHHHHHH I cannot deal with those accents. She has one of those accents, but she is nice hahaha. I use to have a pretty bad NY accent, but its mellowed out now that I've been in Jersey for 10 years. Speaking of SI - that is one place that when you grow up there and live there, you never get out. Its like everyone is "stuck" there.
Let me know what the school says. I'm curious.
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I know! Aren't they beautiful? Omg, I was thinking the same exact thing about those websites. It could be anyone! Especially when they add in "oh I'm not getting free hair to say this". That says guilty to me!!
There's a salon in NYC that offers a lot of hair extensions. I think you can only call them to get a price. Let me see if I can find the website.. http://www.nychairsalon.com/ . There you go. I don't know how good they are or how expensive but maybe you could call and get a price quote over the phone for micro-rings?
Oh yeah! I didn't know you lived in NY orginally. Awesome :).
I just emailed a lady named Pam at the school. It took her a few days to get back to me but we will see.
Hey Melissa! I'm back again lol. I completely forget to tell you this. So when I met with Christina, I was under the impression that she worked out of her own salon and not her home so I only brought my debit card. She told me I needed to put $1000 down which was half of the service. I told her I didnt have any cash and that I would need to go to the bank. I went to the bank but they were giving me a hard time cause I did not have my license. I was only able to take out $500. While I was at the bank, I got a frantic call from my sister and had to rush home. I was rushing to get home that I forgot to call Christina back. I felt really bad, and by the time the drama was done with my sister it was like 10 o clock at night. Anyway, Christina left me a voicemail half hour after I left her home. I just heard this vmail yesterday. She said something like, hi karissa, i have been waiting here for half hour for you to get here. I'm not sure what is going on, but if you were not interested you should of let me know. You are being very rude and unprofessional and i just had to give you the 411 for the future. LOL can you believe that? I can understand anyone getting upset over something like that, however wouldn't you wait more than a half hour to call somebody back? Perhaps there was traffic, or something else. I feel bad that I didnt call back till the next day, but I had an emergency. Now I'm wondering if I should even go to her!
I'm originally from the Bronx and then also lived in Long Island! Hey did you ever get in touch with that Pam lady from the school? This week is going way to slow for me!
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Hey!! Sorry, I've been on and off the boards lately.
That's so nasty of Christina! I think she should've waited at least 45mins - an hour before calling you. I mean hello? Did she even know which bank you were going to? And double Hello!! It's Saturday!! Everyone who can't get to the bank during the week is going to be at the bank on Saturday afternoon. She had no right to say that to you. She automatically made an assumption rather than saying Hi Karissa it's been about half an hour now. I was just wondering if you were ok. Please call me back as soon as possible, I appreciate it.
So you guys worked it out, right? I think her price is kinda steep and her attitude is lame! I'd try for somewhere else. Did you look into that other website I showed you?
I never heard back from Pam. Hopefully she will get back to me soon. If not, I can always send her another email but I don't want to be too pushy or annyoing and make them hate me LOL!
Yes that is what I thought. I thought that was nasty of her to. If that was me, I would of waited maybe a half hour like her or an hour and then left a voicemail saying "hi, just wondering where you are and if you are coming back". If not, please let me know and we can always reschedule or if you changed your mind, no big deal. She shouldn't have assumed any of that in just a half hour. A half hour is NOTHING. I was going to set up the service with her this week, but I changed my mind. I am going to wait for a little while until I'm certain that I want to spend the $2,000. I'm better off making my own extensions lol lol. Besides, with that attitude, it was kind of a turn off hahaha. I'm going to see where else I can look. I did check out that website - Patricia's hair salon - was that it? If so, I heard mixed reviews of that place. I heard that she is snotty, and that the hair was not good quality, etc.
What is the email address for that woman Pam, hahaha maybe I should bug her to and then maybe they will start the class since so many people are interested!
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Exactly! She didn't deal with the situation correctly. Yeah, I'm turned off to her too! I see where you're coming from. Ah, ok. Boo to Patricia's hair salon then lol!! Gosh, why isn't there just a nice person to do good quality extensions? Oh right because we don't have our liscense yet hehehe :).
Yep - she is very young. She has 5 years experience. Maybe I should look for someone who has more experience. Plus her website - About Me Section, FAQ's, etc. matches somebody else's website. LOL I should of known right then and there. I'm going to cancel everything with her for now, and then do it eventually down the road. I dont know if I want to shell all that money out now anyway. I'll just buy some good hair and make some clip ons! lol ur to funny - about the license. We are going to get it soon - LOL we have to. Maybe we can even go into business together heheheh
I'm going to email Pam now and see what she says!
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LOL!!!!!!!!! Are you serious? What did you say exactly? I am cracking up over here. There is no way that is her partner. In fact, now I feel like contacting that other person. It is practically word for word. Only a few words changed, only her bio LOL. I meant to email you yesterday but it was my double shoot!! ughhhh - im tired of this rain to!
the pictures of her method showing her tools are the tools that eurolocs uses- the tool that has the prongs- which by the way will totally crush your hair off if not used properly-
the only difference in the tools that hairlocs uses is they use a seperate plyer to close the cylinder- the tool that she uses has a spot which she pushes the cylinder closed you can see in pic.
her work looks nice from her results page-
have u gone to her?
for $2000 you can fly out here(including air fare) and let me do your hair!! lol-
i do know of someone who works in nyc that does awesome work,,...
let me know if you want her name
oh edited to say- i offer classes as well if you and some others are interested
Hi Tangles - thanks so much for getting in touch! I sort of knew that some of the pictures were from another site. Additionally as I'm sure you've read in my previous threads - her bio, her faq's, EVERYTHING written on her website matches another website that I came across on google. I can understand the FAQ's, however there are certain things for example like your bio that should be all based on you but yet it matches someone else's website. I heard that this coils can possibly hurt the hair, this is why I am looking for a stylist who knows what she/he is doing. She has about 5 years experience.
LOL so I'm guessing the quoted amount of $2,000 is steep? She mentioned that the hair is what is pricey since it will last for a very long time. Not sure how true that is. Where are you located? What method do you use? Also can you provide the stylist in NY as well?
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but it will be worth it! Anyway, I cannot believe that both those schools do not offer the class. Its impossible that noone is offering the course. I don't think it would be on the website if it didnt exist! I'm going to have to do some research tonight when I get home. There's just no way. Trust me, we will find a place LOL. I really don't want to have to do the cosmetology class. I already spent like 7,000 on the esthetics course and the cosmetology course is another $17,000. Don't know if I want to even spend that kind of money especially the way the economy is.
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Well Saturdays only. I work my regular job Monday thru Friday and then on Thursdays and Saturdays I work at a spa. Its a Medical spa. I assist the doctors with laser hair removal, photo facials, botox, etc. and then I do the regular stuff such as facials, massage, chemical peels, etc. Its very exhausting. I definitely need a vacation. Did you do anything exciting this weekend? I'm sick of the rain, this weekend is suppose to be nice!
. I'm happy I don't have too much of a NY accent!! Just with some words but otherwise, I try to hide it!
