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Johan the Canadian mentality is a lot different than the states. Not that I am saying anything bad about our Americans neighbors as I have many friends there. We tend to be very family oriented that we censure a lot of stuff. Our children tend to be brought up more strickly. Our education level is higher as it is proven by many test that compares countries. We don`t get half of the shows that our Americans friends do nor the magazines etc. We also tend to be very cultural and nationality oriented. We tend to be more calm and lay back. WE are known as a country of peace. We encourage more than one language in a home plus we have the schools to support that. Many people know more than two languages here. I have friends who easily know seven languages. Its not so unually. Personally I see the huge difference. We tend to be more trusting but at the same time if we don`t like something we do something and not just talk about it. We are very down to earth.
In a crisis we tend to help each other. In a suvey we were also known as a country that volunteers alot. PLus we are the cookie capital of the world.
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Johan the Canadian mentality is a lot different than the states. Not that I am saying anything bad about our Americans neighbors as I have many friends there. We tend to be very family oriented that we censure a lot of stuff. Our children tend to be brought up more strickly. Our education level is higher as it is proven by many test that compares countries. We don`t get half of the shows that our Americans friends do nor the magazines etc. We also tend to be very cultural and nationality oriented. We tend to be more calm and lay back. WE are known as a country of peace. We encourage more than one language in a home plus we have the schools to support that. Many people know more than two languages here. I have friends who easily know seven languages. Its not so unually. Personally I see the huge difference. We tend to be more trusting but at the same time if we don`t like something we do something and not just talk about it. We are very down to earth.
In a crisis we tend to help each other. In a suvey we were also known as a country that volunteers alot. PLus we are the cookie capital of the world.
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Sorry Johan, but not all of us are burly rugby boozers ;). I Myself am a bit on the skinny side (my damn brother got all the size genes!), and am only about 5`8, which puts me near the shortest of my friends, and I hate football etc, too many rules, I got penalised for `tackling` someone, but they told me it was `decking`, too many technicalities. I`m into badminton and kung fu.

Basically, I recon that they should market clothing to both sexes, and leave it up to them to choose. Some guys would look good in skirts, some would look like really weird freakazoids (I agree with you there!), but hey, the reverse is true for women in pants.

I think the biggest problem is though, is that there is no Opportunity for that kind of decision to be made. Discrimination cuts both ways.

But hey, nobody ever said that the world was perfect ;)
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Diane from Canada,
When it comes to dresses on men, I have to agree with you I think it is silly. Dresses to me are feminine and for women. The problem though Diane is not so much the men on this issue, it doesn`t even occur to most men to wear a dress, the problem is some of the women! I have known guys who I have had conversations with whose wifes or girlfriends want them to perm their hair or try a dress on, or shave their chest or their legs, stuff like that! Women like to make love to men, and they want men to work and be responsible towards their women and kids, but so many women like fashion so much that they want to not only dress up their men in men`s clothing, they like to dress them up in women`s clothing too! I have even personally met women like this, and I have heard and read many stories from people. To some women men are like a big, grown up living breathing version of the dolls the womern used to play with when they were girls. And of course, to some degree women like to play with other women too, give them haircuts and hairstyles talk about clothes they should wear and so forth. Many, many women are just fashion mad, much like some guys are sports nuts!
So if men end up wearing dresses, sarongs, whatever, it will probably be because women talk them into it, just like it was women that talked guys into getting a pierced ear which, if you live in a big city, is very common with men nowadays, I should know, a woman talked me into it. But fortunately my wife does not want me to wear a dress!
Also Diane, I don`t know what gives you the idea that the big cities of Canada are any different than the big cities of the U.S. A. or England. I have been to Toronto and to Vancouver, and you have every weird type of person that we have here in the U.S..You have gays and lesbians, you have oddball eccentrics and artists, you have criminals( not quite as many criminals as the U.S., but you have them), you have environmental extremists, you have right wing religious nuts, you have surly Muslim immigrants, you have everything we have.And I assure you, and let`s hope this doesn`t happen, but if macho men sports guys started wearing dresses in the U.S.A., within a year they would be doing it in Canada too. Case in point earrings on men. I saw just as many guys with pierced ears in Toronto and Vancouver as I ever have in any U.S. city, and I saw plenty of noserings on women too. The major cities of Canada nowadays are no different than the U.S., we are too connected economically, sportswise, socially, you name it, and we travel back and forth all the time! In reality, and some Canadians hate this, but the U.S. and Canada, even though we are seperate countries still, are almost the same country, especially with the NAFTA treaty which gives us essentially a unified trade and economic situation! Also Canadians watch far more U.S. television and movies then they what Canadian television.Like it or not, whatever happens good or bad in the United States, also happens in Canada!
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Now that is funny to visualize ice hockey men wearing dresses lol NOt in a million years that would happen in Canada.

I think that certain things should be left alone. Men can be so sexy wearing certain things ( like those texans men wearing dusters) as women can be wearing that right kind of dress but too much is too much . If I came across someone like Steven Seagal wearing a dress I would quickly turn my back and run eventhought I think the man is sexy you know. Certain things are just sacred and shouldn`t be touch. What happen to the whole image what a man looks like and what a woman looks like? Heck I hardly wear pants. I hate them and I don`t own a pair of blue jeans.
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Johan,

YOU ARE A REAL WISEGUY!!!!!!!!!!
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Dingo!
You are Australian buddy! I thought all Australian guys were ultra-macho maniacs who drink massive quanities of Fosters beer, play rugby, and like big tall women with voluputous bodies and muscles!
And you want to wear a dress and high heels! What`s the world coming to!!!!!
No, with all due respect, I think people should just be happy, I like most everyone and I just want you people to do what you want!
Beautiful dark haired Rita, if you want to dress up your man in a dress, do it to him sister!
Lovely Carol, if you want to attend oddball fashion shows run by gay dudes and look at male models prancing around in sarongs, be my guest!
And Dingo buddy, what could be more hip than an Australian he-man in a dress and high heels!

All I know is you are not getting me to wear a dress because one- I am not the least bit interested or inclined to wear a dress, I like my blue jeans, and two- I play ice hockey and work in the taxicab industry.As we all know ice hockey players are even more barbaric than rugby players, and most cab drivers in Minnesota where I live are either American guys who are ex-convicts or crazy foreigners from terrorist countries! In other words the guys I know, can tell you all about cars, sports and guns, but could not tell a dress from a sarong, and if they saw a guy wearing a dress, they would probably drag out the boiling pot of oil!!!!!
Sorry folks, I`m just not a dress kinda guy!


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Nah, sorry Lyris, I live in Australia (hence the name ;))
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Dingo,

Don`t let negative people stop you honey from being an individual, just ignore people that make nasty comments and attempt to dissuade you from your interests. and I am sure that hetrosexual men can choose different styles for themselves that seem outside of the norm to many people. you are not hurting anyone sweetie! And thank you for starting this lively chat on this website!

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Hey everybody! Guys wearing dresses...wierd! I`ve never seen a guy who wore a dress outside of a drag queen or a costume for Halloween or whatever. I`ve had a guy tell me before that he wished that he could wear dresses or skirts b/c they look more comfortable (I agreed). I don`t want to be close-minded here, but I don`t think that it would look good or be appealling in any way to see a guy in a dress....its just too strange. Long hair & earrings are cool on guys tho...they can be kinda sexy. Oh, yeah, kilts are cool too. If guys wanted to start wearing skirts or whatever, they should start wearing kilts and tartans...now THOSE are sexy (I`m sure you`ve all seen Braveheart and/ or Rob Roy!). I guess I`m a little bit more of a traditionalist.
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Dingo,

Just curious, but are you by any chance from Michigan? Your description of your local shopping sounds a lot like where I live. (Have to drive to Detroit/Chicago for any REAL shopping!)
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No offence albert, but you seem to be pretty closed-minded about this. And a dress and a sarong are totally different things, a sarong is a traditional piece of clothing for men and women of Indonesia, and is a lot like a wrap around skirt. Very different to a dress.

And as I`ve said, not long ago, if this topic were about girls in pants, you would have called that ridiculous too, most things are called ridiculous when they first come out/are first thought of.

I still say that dresses, skirts and heels should all be made for men as well as women, at the very least it would be breaking down another discrimination barrier, and I have no doubt that some guys would look better in skirts than pants, but this in no way reflects their sexuality. Hey, I brought up this topic, and I`m straight.
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Those dresses that male models wear, I think they call them sarongs, but I agree with Canadian Diane and Johan, to me dresses on men are ridiculous. And I know in certain cultures at certain times men wear dresses, robes, etc. but I hope it doesn`t become a fad in North America anytime soon.
Oh yes Carol, that handsome male fashion model who were so taken with was probably a gay guy, just like most of the male fashion designers are, you had better stick with your husband !
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Yeah, I live in a reasonably big city, but the shoe stores at the local mall are pretty pathetic, we have a sports shoes store and a discout shoe store place that I havn`t been in to. There is a Myers as well, but they have hardly any shoes at all. And there are a few girl-specific shoe stores too.
Do you now the name(s) of any stores, online or otherwise, that sell heeled boots for men?

I`m also growing my hair long (its about 4 inches now), I`d love to have long hair.

I recon that if companies were to release their "skirts for guys" range about now (near start of summer) they`d get a lot of business, cause I bet skirts are cooler than shorts ;).
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THANK YOU DINGO, I think you are a very progressive gentleman.
Yes it is a pity Dingo that dresses for men haven`t become more popular like slacks for women. If a woman is feminine she will look good in slacks or a dress, and if a man is masculine he will look good also in slacks or a dress, especially a long slender dress to his ankles.
And diane from canada, they do show men in dresses at fashion shows all over North America, it has been fairly common for years to include some men in dresses as well as the usual pants. And if you don`t like men in dresses fine, I`m sure many people don`t. And Johan I love you and usually agree with what you say, but you never know, dresses could be popular for men someday, there have been times in history in various countries where men did wear dresses, who is to say it couldn`t happen again!
Thanks again Dingo for sticking up for us ladies that would like to see men try dresses, and Dingo I think they already make high heel boots for men, do you live near a big city, I am sure you could find them, or maybe you could find them on the internet!
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Remember Albert and Johan, until not very long ago, women in pants was totally unaaceptable, now look, they`ve adapted the "guys" look to their own. The difference is, the reverse hasn`t happened, and it is a bit of a pity.
Agreed a guy in a mini would be weird, and some guys would look terrible in a dress, but on the other hand, some guys would look good, and some girls look bad in trousers. There are always exceptions.
And `dianefromcanada`, I doubt men are going to be wearing bras, they dont need them do they ;).
Myself, I would love a pair of 2-3 inch chunky heeled boots, I`m used to walking on the balls of my feet, and it`d be nice not to look like such a short @rse.
Trivia for you: High heels were invented for a man, by a man. King Louie the something of France to be precise.
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You ladies are too funny! It doesn`t matter what kind of stupid fashions they wear on the catwalks, (and I have seen men in dresses on television at fashion shows, so I know they wear stupid stuff like that!), the general public doesn`t buy 99% of the fashions that either men or women model at these shows!
There is normal fashions that you see at the regular stores that we all shop at , and then there is the oddball fashion stuff like they show at some of these fashion shows, which nobody except a few rich people buy.
And yes Diane they actually have stupid stuff like men in dresses, and women wearing feathers that stick up off their head 3 feet, and stupid looking animal prints, all of that garbage, but I wouldn`t worry about it dear because no one you or I know will ever wear stuff that dumb! And I assure you men wearing dresses will never become popular like long hair was on men in the 1970s and 1980s, it is just too weird for the general public!
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Next thing you know some people are going to want men to wear bras!! STupid
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Okay Carol why was a Canadian man wearing a dress at a fashion show especially in Toronto? Who was the designer? When was this exactly?
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Ladies,

I attended a fashion show a few years ago in toronto with male and female models, and one of the male models was so cute, he had long, sort of unkept brown hair past his shoulders was wearing several earrings in one ear and a hoop earring in the other ear, had an open white shirt, nice build and chest, and he had on a long, dark blue, floor length dress . most of the other male models wore slacks, but this guy with the dress was the most handsome guy! as i have pointed out on other threads, i have alopecia like linda does, i am totally bald, and that day at the fashion show i was not wearing a wig or scarf i was going with the bald look, and i was wearing my most beautiful tight fitting blue dress and very long, slender, gold dangle earrings to compliment my bald look. i thought i looked pretty fashionable. I was sitting just a few rows from the stage when this darling man in the dress walked by, and my bald head must have attracted him because he stopped for a minute and stared at me, and gave me sort of a little smile.then he realized he had his modeling to do and kept walking the catwalk, but i nearly fainted, he was so goodlooking and he seemed very attracted to me! i wanted so badly after the show to go and try to meet him, but then i thought wait a minute carol you are married to a great guy what are you doing!
But still is was a thrill, and it wasn`t until that day that i realized that men can look so good in a dress!
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