To sue or not to sue...

> As far as I'm concerned, this is a form of rape.> Jennifer EveAs a victim of rape,I would hardly compare the two.Although I would be devestated if someone cut all my hair off, I would much rather have had that happen to me.Hair grows back in a few years. However it takes years and years ,if ever to get back what a rapist takes from you. Lisa

>FROM MarkI HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE POSTS MADE FROMIOWA. LISA YOUR ALLEGATIONS ARE TOTALLY FALSE. MYCOMPUTER WAS OFF LINE, ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. LISA IAM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR STATEMENTS MADE BY OTHER PERSONS INANOTHER STATE,ON THE HAIR BOARD.

I am terribly sorry that horror ever was a part of your life, Lisa. I didn't mean to stir up a bad memory for anyone. I meant only to say that like rape, such a drastic hacking of hair, done forcibly against someone's will, is a tremendous violation of human dignity. As I said, it is a "form" of rape. Rape can happen when anyone's humanity is stolen from, when a person's vulnerability or trust are abused. Sure, it's not the form of rape we first think of, but I'm using the word in a broader sense (see Webster's).What was described here amounts to "hair despoiling," which is a crime in many states and usually refers to those perverts who would actually run up to a longhaired person and whack off her/his ponytail or braid, like that "Jack the Snippers" guy did out West. However, in this situation, the client has invested trust in the hair cutter, but has had that trust betrayed.Lisa, my thoughts are with you today.Hugs,Jennifer Eve> As a victim of rape,I would hardly compare the> two.Although I would be devestated if someone cut all> my hair off, I would much rather have had that happen> to me.Hair grows back in a few years. However it takes> years and years ,if ever to get back what a rapist> takes from you. Lisa

> Interesting how if you say that your hair was an> important part of your job, you may win the lawsuit.> But if you say that it was an important part of your> personality, you won't. So jobs are more important> than personality? I don't get it. Isn't there> something wrong with the way that our courts make> value judgements?> PD** Not really. We have to put limits on people suing over things that aren't quantifiable. Otherwise, what's to stop me for suing for hundreds of thousands when a waitress spills shrimp cocktail on my sweater? I could argue that the sweater had sentimental value, was a gift from a deceased loved one, was irreplaceable, etc.In the case of the model, mentioned above, it's fairly easy for her to show that her hair was a unique characteristic that got her jobs. Also, she had proof that only 6 inches had been agreed upon. It was clear the stylist deliberately defied her wishes.Ally

> I am terribly sorry that horror ever was a part of> your life, Lisa. I didn't mean to stir up a bad memory> for anyone. I meant only to say that like rape, such a> drastic hacking of hair, done forcibly against> someone's will, is a tremendous violation of human> dignity. As I said, it is a "form" of rape.> Rape can happen when anyone's humanity is stolen from,> when a person's vulnerability or trust are abused.> Sure, it's not the form of rape we first think of, but> I'm using the word in a broader sense (see Webster's).> What was described here amounts to "hair> despoiling," which is a crime in many states and> usually refers to those perverts who would actually> run up to a longhaired person and whack off her/his> ponytail or braid, like that "Jack the> Snippers" guy did out West. However, in this> situation, the client has invested trust in the hair> cutter, but has had that trust betrayed.> Lisa, my thoughts are with you today.> Hugs,> Jennifer EveJennifer Eve, I understand what you were saying.Im in therapy now and the memories are very fresh,I am sorry for over reacting.I have read lots of your posts and I can tell you are a caring person.Again ,I am sorry to have gotten upset. Thank you for thinking of me,I need alot of good vibes right now! =) lisa

Hi,I'm with Dave and Holly. A person's hair is just that: their hair. It is theirs to cut or grow out. I have seen many attractive short haircuts on women (not that I'd want one myself, I like my hair the way it is.) Although it's good to consider possible sensitive social situations when choosing a hairstyle (say, if you want green hair but your employer of family really don't want you to have it, or if your spouse has a strong perference or dislike for a certain hairstyle), how you wear your hair is ultimately your decision.Erika> Let's see if this gets the onslaught of mail that a> comment about long hair would get. Then it shpuld> settle the argument of whether this group is biased or> not. "Smile".> I agree with your comments, Dave. Even though I have> long hair, there are certainly many women who look> terrific with short hair. May I suggest, David, that> you start with how a woman like Marylin Monroe could> ever be perceived as "ugly" for having short> hair? I don't think so.> Holly

> Hello David,> From the standpoint of your visual preferences (and> for perhaps other reasons), I can understand this> statement to some degree... But your opinion applied> to any specific situation isn't the only one that> matters. Remember, the woman? It is, after all, her> hair.> I completely and respectfully disagree. I would much> prefer that women be able to choose of their own> consent and free will to have long hair -- if that is> what they wish to have.> As much as I appreciate long hair on women, I cannot> think of a more hurtful statement than yours, David.> How do you think this makes any woman feel, no matter> her present hair length?> DaveI do not dispute that any woman has a legal right to be shorthaired if she chooses. However, she has no right to exist free of comment regarding her decision to be short-haired, or to compel anyone to associate with her who does not choose to do so on the basis of having short hair.I am completely within my rights to express my negative opinions regarding the desirability of the continued existence of short haired women. My opinion is that short-haired women are ugly, and will continue to so state. I am also completely within my rights to decline to date, screw, marry, hire, buy from, or do business with, short haired women, and I will continue to decline to do so.The short haired woman is a social recent development, maybe about 1915 to 1920, at the earliest. The world did without short haired women for nearly 1900 years, or longer. If women stopped cutting their hair short, the world would survive (and in my opinion, be more visually pleasing).DAVID, Esquire

Well, David, consider this: your incredible misogyny has lost you a potential friend in this very longhaired woman. To base all your appreciation for women on a single attribute renders you repulsive in my opinion. How incredibly superficial you are. You would cast aside hiring a struggling single mother with short hair, who perhaps would be a better employee than a longhaired woman, simply on the basis of hair? This is laughable! It's attitudes like yours which will prompt women to cut their hair, simply to spite men like you. But perhaps that is your true motive here: you may very well be a short hair lover attempting to use reverse psychology to actually encourage women to cut their hair. It's been seen here before, so I understand. Well, I'm not biting. I don't grow my hair for any man, and no man can influence me to alter that. No woman can either, for that matter. I feel really sorry for you to live such a shortsighted life. You want this world to survive? Then get out of the dark ages.Laughing,Jennifer EvePS. Diane, you were far too gracious with this guy. But I applaud your approach anyhow. And Dave, you were great, too. We need more men like you in the world. Doesn't this sound all too familiar? Hugs to you both.

I have a question for David Justin Lynch: why do you talk about women this way? Do you sincerely hold a dogmatic conviction that women should have long hair -- or are you in fact attempting reverse psychology, as I think Lady Godiva suggested? What is your preference rooted in? Religion? Tradition? Do you subject male employees to hair length requirements too, or do you only do this to women? Would it be fair to judge your worth as an individual on the basis of your hair? Please do tell me: I sincerely want to know where you are coming from.Madelen

> to make an appointment at the famous JR beauty shop in> the state of Iowa,for revenge haircuts,that Cindy and> Judy got a his famous beauty shop.Don't worry Mark we us long hair women do have brains and can think and comments don't influence us especially this bird!