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You can get it at a salon.
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where can Iget some of this kerasilk? I am currently unemployed and have very little money  anyone have any theyre not using or want to send me a sample to try? and i thought synth hair didnt respond well to conditioners like human? hmmmm.

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here's a thread about my hair and my care:

http://talk.hairboutique.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20446 &KW=merguthrie

i use moist shampoo, goldwell kerasilk conditioner which is AWESOME!!!! and biosilk. the brush i use is really good too, and the brushing technique is VERY important. it took me a while to get that down, too... a whole month. note my picture with red hair (with my nephew before) and my after pictures.

the kerasilk is $10 a bottle but MUCH WORTH IT. I had 'felty matts' in my PH hair b4 I used the kerasilk.

when i brush, i use just the tip of the brush, just the top part, and a lil piece of my hair and work my way up a lil at a time.

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well the thing now is that its not so curly as much as kind of.... kinky, like jumbo hair. or coarse yaki, and frizzed. i have no idea if the curls would come back or not when wet, and personally i dont care, i mostly want wavy and SILKY. my daughter touched my hair this morning and said momma your hair is NOT SOFT

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hey jenn - i have only newbie ph experience to give, and i have the 50 mm curl, but what type of brush are you using? a while back mer posted something about a paddle brush i have been using in the am in pm with finger combing during the day...the paddle brush (for me) really helps keep it soft; if i use a comb or bristle brush it doesn't really get back to soft. sleeping with it in a bun or braids, and brushing/combing from the bottom up are the best ways i've found to keep it nontangly and easy to work with. also, i think kerasilk treatment really helps combability (i've been using the cheapo  generic from sally's); i apply the kerasilk from bottom up, brush from bottom up till silky, then reapply about a quater-size dollop of teh kerasilk again to finish......fina fina has the 28 mm and has not reported the same kinda issues so i'm sure she can lend some sound advice...my stylist also recommended spritzing daily with kerasilk conditioner diluted with water....also, what kind of silicone spray or other products are you using - by these i mean what brands?

cheryl

 



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Hey Jenn,

Honestly, I wouldn't try to brush the curl out (that'll just make it frizzy), and I certainly wouldn't bother with a 1-inch curling iron (the curl would be just as tight, and straightening with it could give you uneven results, not to mention fry the hair).

Have you tried just taking a long, hot shower, and sort of separating the curls with your fingers while the water runs through the hair? I would do that, then add a little diluted fabric softener as a leave-in conditioner (not too much), then leave the hair to air-dry. That way, you can retain some of the curl without having it go pin-straight. If it's still too curly at that point, when it's about 50% dry, take the hair-dryer and blow-dry the hair--but don't do a blow-out with the brush (that'll make it totally straight), instead just separate and sort of straighten the strands a little with your fingers, and keep the dryer moving. (You could also use a steamer for that part if you have one.) That should give you a looser wave. If it's still a bit frizzy, I'd spray it with some silicone or Dome or wig spray, and put it in a loose braid for a few minutes, remove the braid, and re-separate the strands with your fingers.

I was surprised, too, at how curly the 28mm was when I saw Fina's pics. It looks looser in the bag somehow, but on the head, it really is quite curly. Keep in mind that this hair really wants to be straight, so even if it's too curly now, it'll be a breeze to make it straighter. With some washing, the wave just naturally loosens. If all else fails, you can blow it out or steam it with the brush (following the Doc Locks instructions), but I'd keep that as your last resort, because the hair will really be pin-straight then and you'll have to reset it if you want any wave.

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Personally I'd take a hot shower and bring the fabric softener and a wide tooth comb with me.  The hot water really seems to make it drop the wave/curl.  so if you were trying to smooth it while under the hot water it seems to me it would be the fastest way to get it tamed down.  So yeah hot water ont he head and then fabric softener so keep the tangling to a minimum while you comb.  If you force the comb through I have found that will make any synth frizz up.  Like little tiny kinky curls so be gentle.

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Hi all. I need some tips on making this ph look decent. Ive got more than half my head in the microlinks, and will finish prolly today. id most likely be done already if it werent for interruptions from the little ones! anyhow i got the 28mm, and am regretting it, because its SO curly. tends to get really frizzy and tangly, esp after i seperated it all out to pretip. I figured it would look better when I got it in and had a chance to brush and smooth, but nope. Ive tried diluted fabric softener, baby oil gel, silicone spray, and a curling iron. its just a 1" one, I probably need a bigger one, but its all ive got right now. i ran it down the lengths to try to smooth it and then spiraled it around to make a loose curl... but even when i smooth it down its still got that bit of kinkiness to it and feels kind of rough, not silky like i want. and tries to tangle. what do i do??? i should have gotten the 50mm, because the 28mm is really hard to smooth out. should i just blow it all straight and start over, and will it still get tangly and knotty? *sigh*

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