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    Posted: July 20 2001 at 10:50pm
I need to ask this question. Why do some men on the internet have such a hatred for talk shows or anything topic that comes close to cutting? Why does some men are so obsess with the idea of long hair that when some long hair woman cuts her hair for her own personnel reason she receive hate email messages or messages left on message boards for the whole world to read while all these years a particular lady that I have admire contributed so much in the knowledge of growing her hair when it was her own decision . We also read confession of men who can`t sleep at night knowing a long hair woman decided to cut her hair. Why does such actions affect strange men like that who are not personally involved with the participants? It is not their sister nor their wives just a woman in another country or state. A woman who decided of her own choices.
I myself received hate messages when I had my hair trimmed. I was shammed. I was accused of being a promoter of cutting hair while in the whole time I was taking care of my split ends. WHAT A CRIME!
Now all this hatred is toward talk shows and I have to wonder when the hatred will stop? Will women who cut their hair not respected because they committted" the so crime"? If we don`t speak up it will come to the day of men hating women who have short hair. They might deny it now but who will stop them if we are silent? WE have to stand up to our rights. How can anyone tell these men that they are not clear in their thinking?
I even read that people who are neutral in the attitude of long hair shouldn`t have long hair. Wow we are dictated that we women should be 100% committed to growing our hair for the rest of our lives or not do it. Since when we women should be dictated like that? Since when it is a strange man on the internet business of telling us women what we can do or not do with our hair? Since when we should be the object of their fantasies?
I am fed up with those off the wall thoughts and hatred.
I am sure that I am not alone with this fed up attitude.
Some people stay quiete because look all the insults we get when we speak up.
Sure long hair is beautiful. I am a true believer in long hair. I truely love all the colors and the beauty it brings. My favorite thought is a mother covering her baby with her long hair. It represent security to me in a way of natural beauty and being with earth. I am a very simple person most of the time and doesn`t care for materials. It can promote closness when our children comb our hair and gets the comb tangle in our hair and we have laugh about it. But enough is enough when it comes to tring prevent women to be free of making their own decisions.
Don`t allow any one to shame you into something you want to do with your hair.
Now some men will accuse me of hating men as they did in the past because I don`t fear of speaking up but if I reallly hated men I wouldn`t be getting married again nor I would have been married before, nor I wouldn`t have very intelligent male friends that don`t fall in this control thing.
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Diane, maybe you need to start a new message board. This is for people who support long hair. I do. I belong here.
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It is so sad to see that you have become so full of hatred and clueless. I do support long hair but not to the point of controling others.
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hi, diane. i prefer women with long to medium hairstyles, but will not deny someone the right to cut her hair short if she chooses. long hair and men who love it is often obsessive and controlling by nature. there are some women who just plain look better with a shorter style, and as a stylist, isn`t that what i should be concern with...their overall appearance? while i truly love seeing long beautiful hair i am not crazy enough to think that all womens hair is going to be beautiful and look good. long is a preference but thats all. you`re right in one thing for sure...it is definately a control issue. email me or try me on yahoo and we can talk more about it if you`d like
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My title Gord should have been why such hatred toward women who make choices! I gave my views on this and all the facts are easily back up by just looking around on the internet.
A bit of advice Gord. I am very pro long hair for myself and will always encourage someone that wants long hair as I have for years but I will never lower my standards to the point of insulting women who decide to cut their hair ( like my mentor etc) as others have hurt the feelings of these women. Or spreading hatred. Okay be pissed off that your passion is being cut but don`t passs the hatred. It is the participants that made those choices no one else. Calling a talk show host an asshole doesn`t bring in anything. It only shows that you don`t accept that women can make choices. He cannot produce a show if there are no willing participants.

Attitudes like these has cause many women to cut their hair of the fear. I am myself if I wasn`t so strong would have cut my hair because of this attitude that is shared by some men on the internet. How many times I felt that my hair was more important than the person I am. NO women want to be told what to do . All women love compliments and encouragement but not to the point of feeling that they are not allow to make choices or hell willl be break loose by insults on the message board or privately. You are peaved with me, fine. I have known you for years. I am saying to you Gord encourage women but remember respect them if they decide to do something else. Please don`t fall into this passing of hatred. YOu are much better than this. There is a lot of good within you. This is the end for me. I am fed up with the attitude. I wish the men would encourage the beauty only.
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Diane, I think you know that for as many men on the Internet who are obsessed with long hair, there are at least as many men obsessed with cutting it off. Personally I find the latter obsession far less healthy, but in any case most of us fall somewhere between the two extremes.

I too don`t understand all the fuss over the Maury Povich show. The man is one step above Jerry Springer and it`s not like he is ever worth watching. Nor are the women who participate women whom I had ever seen before or will ever see again. I don`t watch the show. I am not affected by it.

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Diane, Not to be rude, but must you always write such long posts? Also, it seems to me that you are always trying to start an argument or somthing with your comments.
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I don`t watch television and thus didn`t see the haircutting show. This is what I`ve gathered (and I could be wrong). Whether the women wanted to cut their hair or not (I assume they did or they wouldn`t be there), the impression is that they were somehow being coerced into doing the "right" thing. Did any of the women say, "Oh man, I am so sick of this hair. Let`s just get rid of it. Cut it. Please!"? Obviously I don`t know, but I`m guessing that didn`t happen.

Thus, the impression could be that these "wild" women let their hair run amok and thus had to be tamed by the guy with the literal shears. It`s show business, and that kind of a theme is probably a lot more perversely stimulating than if the women just calmly asked for a haircut. So, in a sense, these kinds of shows are making fun of women with long hair.

Gee, and people wonder why I don`t watch TV!!

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Oh that what was the short version lol. I am assertive.
Long hair women have to be. lol
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Oh that what was the short version lol. I am assertive.
Long hair women have to be. lol If you don`t understand you can email me.
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. Did any of the women say, "Oh man, I am so sick of this hair. Let`s just get rid of it. Cut it. Please!"?

Yes Jennifer often they say that they want a change and often they mention why. NO the shows are not making fun of women with long hair. It is about having a new look only.
Some men on the internet are upset and want to hate Maury or any organization that is involved in cutting hair because it goes against their fantasy of long hair. By spreading such hatred is also encouraging this thing that women shouldn`t have the right to do what they want with their hair. They will sugar coat it but it reallly comes down to the fact that they feel less long hair women on earth so they want to hate Maury. Nevermind that we women are human beings and should be able to make our decisions. Too bad Gordon topic wasn`t in the politic where it belonged.
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Another thing for Jennifer

The other thought that some of those internet guys have that have often expressed with written words is that they fear that if us women see these shows it will encourage us to cut our hair. I as a woman that makes trivial and major decisions in life concerning myself and my children etc cannot accept being put in a group as a child having men decide what is best for me to watch. I as a woman can easily see that such shows wouldn`t have an affect on any woman who really wants to keep her long hair like myself and others.

Those women who have contacted the show wanted to cut their hair and it wasn`t a stupid show that caused that. Not watching Maury does not promote long hair or whatever. It is useless to hate such shows as we only have one life so we should spend it being happy.
It is a decision from our heart to have long hair and that is why I totally resent such thoughts that we Women are so fragile that we will fall into the hell of getting a new look talk shows! I find that such thoughts are not respectful toward us.
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I believe in the US there is a definate media skew towards getting women to spend much time & money trying to look good. Like it`s a women`s duty to be attractive. Women are continually encouraged to spend their hard earned money on beauty products, and beauty parlors. Women, from the time they are born are sold on all this materialistic stuff. We are bred to prioritize "good grooming" and consequently end up feeding a multimillion dollar cosmetics industry. I don`t chose to watch Maury`s hair butchering shows, because I don`t like the topic. I see at as yet another attempt to get women hooked on salon stylists, when they were really better off -- better looking and spending less money -- with their natural long hair. I don`t relate to Diane`s anger and I also don`t like when people use foul language to try to get their point across.
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YOu have an excellent point. I find that lots of men including women do have this attitude that it is a woman`s duty to be attractive especially the older group.
You also have another excellent point. YOu don`t watch Maury because you don`t like the topic. Turn the channel.
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It is so sad to see that you have become so full of hatred and clueless. I do support long hair but not to the point of controling others.

I support long hair, women who have long hair and others who love long hair. How is that a sign that I "have become so full of hatred and clueless?" I am full of love and am not a namecaller. I do not degrade others on this site or others. Mirror, mirror on the wall...
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The "duty" idea promoted by the media is a good point but it could be elabrated to say: the duty is disguised as
"attractive": actually the "duty" is to be FASHIONABLE.
I wonder if those who design fashion trends really care
about whether the users will look attractive, or if they`re just out to make money. Of course the users assume that just because it`s in style it`s attractive.
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If you support long hair then will are you spending your time trying to warn people about shows? Warning people does not promote more long hair women.

Actually your topic belonged on the politic board as you mentioned that my response was also.
Do you seriously think that once a woman watches such a show it will promote cuts? If so I don`t believe you have much confidence in the way women make their decisions. That is my point.
Like I said Gord, not a stupid talk show will convince me or anyone that cares about keeping their hairlong to cut it.
NOr warning about talk show will encourage or whatever.
Get real no one is name calling you for goodness sakes. I said you were clueless because of your reaction. Some women grow their hair because they don`t want to be bother with styling short hair and really don`t care one way or the other what happens. Shows or not they would have cut their hair. Some women had the same length since birth and are tired of their look. So what. What makes me wonder why it bothers you so much that a strange woman that you will never meet affects you this way?
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Actually Duke I strongly believe we should always look good for our partner.
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If you support long hair then will are you spending your time trying to warn people about shows? Warning people does not promote more long hair women.

Actually your topic belonged on the politic board as you mentioned that my response was also.
Do you seriously think that once a woman watches such a show it will promote cuts? If so I don't believe you have much confidence in the way women make their decisions. That is my point.
Like I said Gord, not a stupid talk show will convince me or anyone that cares about keeping their hairlong to cut it.
NOr warning about talk show will encourage or whatever.
Get real no one is name calling you for goodness sakes. I said you were clueless because of your reaction. Some women grow their hair because they don't want to be bother with styling short hair and really don't care one way or the other what happens. Shows or not they would have cut their hair. Some women had the same length since birth and are tired of their look. So what. What makes me wonder why it bothers you so much that a strange woman that you will never meet affects you this way?

Diane, you have grown so bitter over the years for whatever reason. You spend so much time getting your point across and I really don`t know why. We get it. We get it. My motto: Live and let live. Maury Povich`s show is fair discussion for this show. Nothing you have written has changed the way I feel. Long hair rocks. The haircuts on his show blow. In my humble opinion, none of the haircuts on the most recent show improved their appearance. Several lost mountains of sexiness. Feel free to respond to my reduntant claims in three e-mail messages or less.
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