QuoteReplyTopic: Wait How Long to Try to Fix Botched Color Job???? Posted: July 18 2003 at 9:48am
Seriously, I do need some help. I posted below about a salon screwing me up. As the days pass, the Irish Setter Red is turning to more of a Golden Retriever orange. (hey, I'm a dog artist -- I think in terms of dogs. LOL)
So after all that's been done to me, my hair really doesn't feel all that bad. How long would you guys wait before going to a DIFFERENT salon and attempting to fix this, and what would you try? Would a simply highlighting (pulled through a cap) be enough to gradually take me back to my normal dirty blonde or would highlighting just bring out more of the underlying brass & red? Please help -- I've cried for 5 days now.
I would think a proper tint back.....Not too dark....just tone that Setter gold. You should end up with an even dark tawney or taupey blonde. Then highlights...but tone that gold first. In fact in a perfect situaion, It would be ideal to tone you a couple of times before you highlight...just to be sure it holds for you. (use a good color protect shampoo) Yes, then highlight.
Thanks so much for the reply. Is there any danger that I will lose my hair? I'm just so gun-shy now because everything that was SUPPOSED to be routine turned out to be an even worse disaster than the previous problem!
Oh, the salon gave me half off. Whoopeee, huh? I paid it just because I was so traumatized and just wanted OUT of there. I have always been happy with the service I received there, but this was a new stylist.
Regarding paying for crappy service, I agree I shouldn't have paid anything... but I was actually SHAKING from the experience and just wanted out of the salon. After 4.5 hours in their chair and 3 horrific hair colors, I was ready to run.
So am I correct in assuming that even if I tone and get a redless head of hair, I shouldn't highlight again until all of this overworked hair grows out? I worked so hard to grow my bangs out and my hair is shoulder length. It's so disappointing to finally have the length I want and be stuck with color that totally sucks.
You were definately in a very vulnerable place after this incedent....and I feel you were taken advantage of. A good thing to practice for future unsatisfactory..... or down right bad situations is to practice what you would say or do in any future instance.
Go over it in your head....or even write down what you would do differently if you had it to do over again.
Your being steered up to the desk to pay....Your upset.....but stay calm (you did)....What could you say? (in a calm but strong voice...looking the stylist in the eye...eye contact VERY important at this point) Ask; "Are you charging me for this?" Keep eye contact....they most likely won't.....She might say something like; "Well I used a lot of product and time....blah blah blah"
Square your sholders keep eye contact...use an even stronger tone...but not loud, just firm....."I'am not paying, I did not recieve the color we agreed upon." If they try to charge you after that....You would have to get tougher....but my bet is that they would cave...???
In most cases it's fine to highlight with bleach after an experience like yours....but it depends on the condition of your hair now and I have no way of judging you current condition...???
Protien treatments are always an option to rebuild and prepare the overworked hair to hang on to future color. I prefer Redken Cat.
One of the things the stylist kept saying was, "Most people would have been screaming at me by now." Believe me, I wanted to scream, but I just didn't see the point. Besides that, I was tasting my own stomach acids and was really trying hard to keep myself calm to avoid a major panic attack.
Asserting yourself after a botched hair job would really be a good thread to start. I am not naturally an assertive person and it took a lot for me to tell them I didn't like the first color. After it just kept getting worse and worse, I thought to myself, "See what I get for complaining?" I guess that's why I'm afraid to do anything to try to correct the red hair (which, incidentally, is now Brittany Spaniel orange) -- each time I tried to fix a color, the next one was worse!!
I had to set up my booth (dog art) at a local fair for four days this week and there were plenty of people I know who were there. I could see all of them looking at my head as if to say, "Holy smokes, what box did THAT hair come out of??" I was so embarrassed and I have absolutely no confidence left. I really was a fairly pretty lady and now I just feel like a big pile of doo doo. Ugly, ugly, ugly....
your right Julie it would be a good thread.....Hmmm Maybe we can make it a joint effort.
I will say that I can tell your a very nice person and your first mistake was to think that ANYTHING to do with this situation was YOUR FAULT...You were doing everything right......
I will work on a thread and I would love your input.
Your hair should be a color that can at least be toned back to a normal color...the gold or red is most likely not going to go away....buy gold and red are perfect colors to do a tint back over the top of to achieve a normal light brown.
Do you think you could ever contact the manager of the salon that messed you up?? The sooner the better....?? I could give you some good questions to ask. What do you think?
Well here's the funny part about the manager thing..... the last person to work on my hair WAS THE MANAGER. This salon takes walk-ins and there were only 2 girls working. As I was processing to what we *hoped* would be a nice light brown, she was trying to do some cuts for a family she knew personally. She rinsed me out and brought me back to her chair just after she had taken a #2 razor to her male client, but before she was able to scissors cut his top. He knew her and he was pressuring her to squeeze him and his young son in to her schedule. So she was waiting to finish his hair cut and I think when I said, "oh no, it's red.." she thought, "NOW what am I gonna do? I've got this lady in my chair and a half-finished hair cut waiting and only an hour until closing." She told me that there really wasn't much she could do without really endangering my hair. And, in fact, as I sat there dripping wet, she asked me what I wanted to do. I said, well I really want to leave with *some* hair, so I guess I'll just have to live with it. Imagine my surprise when she said okay and snapped the cape off. She didn't even dry it. I walked out with a dripping wet head -- I suspect because she knew the drier it got, the redder it would become.
And you know, what really p_sses me off is that I have never EVER left that salon without leaving the stylist a tip of $20.... I know those ladies work hard. But now I feel pretty damned used and abused.
Hey girl you were! It's appalling ... whenever I hear some of your salon nightmares...I just wish I could help more.
I posted this on another thread....I don't know if it helps your SETTER RED??? Basically the same rules apply to your situation.
That Stylist....and I use the word loosely here... was either totally ignorant as to what to do next...or she simply didn't want to deal with what she had done. The horrible thing is that she charged you money for HER complete incompetence! There are many things that could be done to tone or condition or possibly even lighten your hair...or whatever.
I would prefer that you ask some of your friends and find yourself a great Stylist/colorist.....And here is a little TIP FOR EVERYONE READING THIS****In most cases, any Stylist that has time to take walk-ins, is not in demand and does not have the experience it takes to color hair, at least not the type of color you wanted.***** This is my educated opinion.
So, a little darker to tone is not a problem.
Natural Instincts, a semi-permanent is perfect for this. Deposit color only. Do not use a permanent color (there's no such thing anyway) it has ingredients you don't need....ammonia, higher volume peroxide....This can give that red glow on darker hair, after it fades.......
Now the hard part is deciding what shade is right for you....
We know you want to be in the cooler shades...in order to tone the red or gold in your hair.
So, you want a cooler shade that is NOT TOO DARK. (cooler shades tend to be a little darker). And here is where I can't help you because I don't know the shades. Maybe someone else here can help you with that.
I can tell you that the biggest mistake people make (stylist too) with a deposit only color is to choose a color that is too dark.
The best suggestion I can make is to buy a cool shade lighter than you would normally think....in the med or even light blonde first...Apply the color let it process the whole time recommended.
If this is still not enough depth to tone your red....go one darker....work your way there. You can apply this color one after the other with no worries...as long as you don't get too dark.
Sophie, you're a gem. Thank you. I called a local salon (the owner used to highlight my hair for me, but I went elsewhere when she got pregnant and took 2 years off). She wanted me to get a list of everything that has been done to me so that she can assess what steps to take to correct the problem. Are ya ready for this list? Sit down and get comfy:
1. Logics Lightener powder, brushed on, all over (turned my roots platinum for about 1" and then the rest was brass bell) THEY WERE GOING TO DRY IT THAT WAY AND SEND ME HOME!! In retrospect, I probably should have done it!!
2. Blue Accent by Logics to tone (did nothing)
3. 10 BV by Logics (was applied by bottle and clumps adhered to my hair, giving me all over light blue with dark patches of blue)
4. 8 RO by Logics to attempt to give me a "normal" color of some kind. (made me light red but did not get out blue streaks and patches)
DAY TWO
5. Lightener powder (the purpose was to get the blue out and I watched the process. I actually think I *might* have been a decent ashey blonde in the middle of the processing, but they left it on the prescribed 30 minutes (as per the "hotline's" instructions) and it stripped all color and I was right back to the initial brassy stage)
6. 7N by Attitudes, a semi permanent color (turned me all over light brown with an orange cast. In natural light, the color is absolute SH*T. I'm just so embarrassed and feel so ugly.
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The top picture is me with my natural hair highlighted (albeit a bit grown out). Notice that I am smiling. The bottom picture is me and I have to admit to you -- my hair is oily because I haven't washed it in two days and I have NO makeup on in the picture. I just don't care these days -- why bother?? Note that I match my friggen oak cupboards.
Another highlight would have been best...just to freshen the base.
I could go into everything they did wrong.....omg.
The color you have now is definately fixable and I'm so glad you called your old Colorist. She will fix it for you. In future if she can't be available to color your hair ask her to recommend someone when she can't be there.
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