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    Posted: February 04 2005 at 9:25pm
Ok Ive finally decided to go with this hair:

http://www.hairsisters.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=6_7&products_id=2200

and pre-tip myself and using shrinkies and the heating tool from Doc Locks.

I wanted to see if everyone still thinks shrinkies are the way to go? Ive read some recent posts that people are having problems with temperature control and shrinkage and such.
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I think if you use the shrinkies and the heat tool from docs you should be fine. But I would go for a better brand of synth tho in my opinion, use a monofibre, like Prostyles, Dome or Plastikhaar for the curl. Just regular synth like what you have posted could rat up really easy and wouldn't be good for long time wear, if that is what you are looking for.
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Emma how did that other synthetic work out? It was something similar to the freetress that I bought. I can use mine because its too light for my hair. Its very very light.
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whew i mustve gotten lucky, i just tried out shrinkies for the first time and it was easy! just heated my hair straightener up and clamped down and they shrunk down to a little miniature size and that was that...it was so easy that now im wondering if i did something wrong? i even had fun doing it, like there was some evil fun in making the little shrinkie shrinkie down in size... my only question is i started rolling the shrinkie right away and it was hot, burned a bit, is it ok to wait for it to cool off a sec or should i maybe set my iron down a bit?
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As long as they shrunk down tight and hard they should be fine. I think you need to roll them right away before they start to cool. But I havent got alot of shrinkie experience yet so maybe someone else will better answer your question!
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LOL! No, you did everything right and it's actually great fun to dominate that shrinkie.

Yep, when it's hot it can smart your fingertips.

Fingerguards wouldn't help much because they're too bulky to work with. Just be gentle on yourself and press them together and turn them (if they won't roll) and make sure they get good and tight. Sounds like you're doing everything perfect.
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Sherrie, I really liked that Futura Fiber I got at Sallys, I wish they had it in something other than silky straight. All Sallys ever carries in anything is silky straight.

That might not be the exact hair I go with but its the type of curl I want. Hair Sisters is a huge site and has lots to choose from. Im going to see if I can find that curl in a kanekalon.

Hey Amm, Im wondering, with your success with Gorilla Glue if just about any glue would work? Is it the tipping with nail glue that makes it more durable? I was checking out the glue section at WalMart the other day and they have a craft glue that comes in a tube with a sponge applicator. I thought the sponge would be a great way to tip the hair. The glue was waterproof, thick and said it dries quickly and was non toxic.
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I think just about anything would be worth trying. I think the main key with this is patience. Do just a few and allow them to set up and cure until they're good and dry. And then test them to see how they do with a washing.

As far as Gorilla Glue goes, just when you think you've put on just the right amount, you've probably put on too much. Serious, the stuff expands while it dries and the end result is pretty hard. It can make a great small tip or a horrible one that's too large and hard to wear if too much is applied.
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I used the Proclaim latex glue from Sally's (99 cents a bottle), let them sit for a day, then coated the tips with nail glue. I'm actually impressed with how well they turned out. It was simple, cheap, and non-toxic (or at least, the bottle didn't say anything).
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I'm on day 2 with about 80 shrinkies. Only lost 2 strands so far. My only complaint has to do with the hair...it really looks unnatural. It's a synth I got at hairpiece - the one that cost $10 instead of $6. Its biggest problem is that it doesn't blend - the strands don't brush together to lay like real hair - the sort of separate into strands and it looks bad. That plus it's super straight and my hair has just a slight wave so the difference is obvious, at least to me. It was really long, but the next day I ended up cutting 6" off to nearly the length of my own hair, just so it wouldn't look so fake.
I think the main problem is styling. The girl who did me took about 5 hours to put in the shrinkies alone, so there was no time to actually "style" it once it was in.
The ends, when cut, are very unnatural looking. I think someone who knows how should do something to it with a razor - that's what either Prostyles or Dome's site recommends, I think.
This was my first experiment with both synth and shrinkies, and although I hate the results, I am learning about what will eventually work.
Shrinkies are good - they stay in well and are comfortable. I think they're not as invisible as microrings, however. The hair - well, just waiting for my Plastikhaar color ring to arrive. But yesterday I was so distraught, I was considering ordering some expensive cuticle to redo this mess right away...but today I'm better! lol
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Syren,

Do you think the piece-y, separate way the hair is laying has anything to do with the fact that you only have 80 in? I find that the fewer extensions I have (and this is with human hair), the more piece-y it looks. I think this is often the case with strand-by-strand extensions, as opposed to wefts.

Just curious. :)
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Yes, Jenny, I do think that has something to do with it. Plus, my own hair is very fine so it adds very little substance itself. Plus I think the hair is just so-so - kind of 'yaki' in texture although not labeled yaki. And it's silky straight - bone straight. A little wave would go a long way.
I don't want to put too much more effort into this installation since I already don't like it. I did put a few microrings on the sides to fill in and help with the mullet effect.
Right now I'm reading an old thread about AMM's gorgeous DIY 'do and am getting reinspired!
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Syren,

Send me an email or a mail message through this board and we can hook up somehow. I'll send you some samples of the French Refined so you can take a look at its wave. You can send me some of your shrinkies as trade or something. What color is your own hair?

PS: I have 2 colors of French Refined from Glamour Hair .. a reddish brown (#12) and the 2 blonde blend (#18/22). It's what I'm wearing in my little photo on the left.
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Originally posted by leia1979 leia1979 wrote:

I used the Proclaim latex glue from Sally's (99 cents a bottle), let them sit for a day, then coated the tips with nail glue. I'm actually impressed with how well they turned out. It was simple, cheap, and non-toxic (or at least, the bottle didn't say anything).

You know, leia, I used it too when the LG I was using got too gummed up at around 1/2 bottle. I agree - the Proclaim tips turned out okay! It's kind of weird, tho - at one point in its set-up process, it separates into sort of water and white latex, so if you roll the tip at that point, the tip doesn't dry clear. I found it best to let the Proclaim practically dry, THEN roll, then dry, then coat with nail glue. But the tips turned out very nice, although not rock hard like LG tips.
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For those of you who used Latex glue to tip hair, was it on human or synth? I tried latex on synth and it didnt seem to take very well, of course I didnt let it dry totally before I tried to roll it and it just slid right off the hair.
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Emma, it was on synthetic hair. You just have to really let the latex dry first, much moreso than with LG which sets up much quicker. Just my (recent) experience.
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Has anyone tried Keratin glue to pretip the Shrinkies. I'm thinking that maybe Sherrie tried it, although I can't quite remember... :)
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I used latex glue on human hair. I put glue on a few before I went back and rolled them to give it a little time to set (so you end up with less glue on your fingers).

Jenny, I think maybe Doc's pretipped hair has keratin or some other fusion glue. I just know that when I started installing the hair I tipped, I didn't hear a sizzle anymore. I wondered if the glue used to tip the hair is what determines the sizzle.
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Yes I did...sort of. Well what I actually did was melted some of my keratin preglued "nailhair" tips with my flatiron. There is alot of glue on these tips but most of it squeezed out onto the iron and it left just the right amount on the hair to make a really nice tight small tip. The thing about tipping with Keratin from a gun or a hotpot is that it would be hard to get just a tiny amount of glue rolled into the strands quickly before the glue sets. Pretipping in stick form takes way less glue than what you would use for fusion, and the less hot glue the quicker its going to set up. And if you dont get it distibuted through the strands its gonna shed. But I think you could pretip with the keratin and then reheat them with the wand to squeeze out the excess glue and roll them tight. It probably wouldnt take any more time than pretipping with other types of glue & waiting for the glue to set and cure. I feel another experiment coming on!
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That's a good point, Sherrie. It'd probably be a pain to use Keratin then.


Leia, I've never "sizzled" with Shrinkies either, and I used Liquid Gold and the nail glue. I think I haven't been cooking them for long enough, though. :)
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