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    Posted: January 16 2006 at 6:35am

Hi evryone!

 I realize people with Long hair Love it. However would You ever consider donating (at least 10 inches)of Your hair for (I think Cancer patients) to make wigs for "Locks of Love"?

 I feel so stupid, back in summer of 2002, I had at least 15 inches of Hair, and instead of donating it to Locks of Love, I simply chopped it off myself.

 It would take at least 3 years to grow it that long again, but all I want is hair to my shoulders. However if I could turn back the clock, I would've donated at least 10 inches for wigs for cancer patients.

 I know that's a hard decision for many,. I was just wondering what everyone thought about that topic.

 

 God Bless, See Ya!

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I'm going to try to answer your question in a way that is fair to everyone concerned. This topic used to start fights, so don't be surprised if they wind up locking it to avoid trouble. 

First, if I ever decided to chop off a fair portion of my hair, I don't think I'd mind sending it to them, its either that or the trash, and I like to recycle what I can.  Many hate this organization, and would not.  Would I ever cut it off just for them?  No.  They are not worthy of that in my opinion because they are not up-front enough in their business dealings.  Their Better business report states that they made 150,000 bucks one year selling hair (and the wigs for the kids are supposed to be free, so they are sold to others presumably). They should be more upfront about where unused hair goes so donors know their hair may not go to a sick child, and about where they make their money.  Sure, they need to make money to pay for the free wigs, they should just say so and people would be fine with that instead of appearing dishonest by never mentioning where the money comes from and the tons of extra hair they receive goes.  A lot of people hate this organization because many with long hair get harassed by some of their over-zealous representatives.  No one should go up to someone and tell them how to spend their charity.  Its very rude.

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gunnie71:  I'm curious how you're measuring your hair.  You say that in 2002 you had 15" of hair and that you could have donated at least 10" of it.  From what I understand on this forum the way hair is measured is from the roots at the top of your forehead and back over the top of the head to the ends of the longest layers.  On most people, it would take at least 10" just to get to the top of the back of the neck so if you had 15", you really wouldn't have much to cut at all??  Just curious.  If you're saying that you really had 15" of donatable hair, then your hair must have been pretty long ... maybe more like 25".  Sorry for getting off-topic, but I was curious.

Would Jennifer donate any hair??  I'm not sure.  We too have heard that Locks of Love is a shaky organization.  Jennifer once had hair to her waist and put it in a braid and cut it off and gave it to a girl next door to play with.  She was getting over a bad relationship and just wanted it gone.  She thinks about it now and wishes she would have kept it or done something of more value with it.

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What Susan W said is right-this topic has been started, fought over and locked on hair boards so many times. I wouldn't donate my hair because it's mine. Sure, cancer patients deserve wigs, but personally, I would feel extremely uncomfortable wearing a wig made out of other peoples hair. 

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LOL will never see a strand of my hair nor will any other charity. I know it's selfish but I won't ask for a wig from anywhere either. I'd cut my own hair and have a wig made from it if needed.

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I donate money and time.
I donate charity event proceeds.
I would donate my blood if my medical condition didn't prevent it.
I do not donate hair.  

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I get asked all the time if I intend to donate my hair.

That's great if someone specifically wants to spend all the time and effort into growing out their hair simply to give it away, but that does not mean that's what everyone wants to do.  No thanks!

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Katie, you should wear your hair how you want.  Nobody should compel you to cut your hair if you don't want it to be cut.

I agree 100% with what Susan has written.

People approach me with haircut-for-charity pitches all the time, and I am absolutely sick of it.  None of these people ever bother to grow their own hair long for donation -- they seem perfectly content to frequently trim/maintain their short hairstyles, without ever seeming to give thought to carefully growing their own hair long for such a purpose.  And furthermore, they seem to be infected with the notion that doing their part for charity involves convincing others to donate their visually apparent (and personal) assets.

I give money to a variety of charities.  And since going off the Propecia, I have also begun to give blood again.  We are all free to choose whether or not we give to charitable causes, and if so, to which, and how much.  It's called charity because it's optional -- i.e., not mandatory (such as taxes).

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Hi All,

 I agree with all of you.

 I was simply curious.

 I have never told anyone what to do with their hair. In fact I'm a bit of a rebel, and do new things, long, medium, or short, and I love to experiment with color too.

 

 Thanks for your input.

 I realize how annoying my Twin sister was when she told me , after I cut my hair really short, that some girl she knew had her long hair chopped and cheerfully donated it to locks of love.

 I didn't know how shady that organization was or can be,...

 Lets forget this thread, I do appeciate everones views.

 take care, God Bless!

Katie ;)
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This is my answer. Sorry for not just forgetting it ;)

Years ago when I first heard about LOL and Wigs For Kids and others I wanted to go around to salons and tell them not to throw away the long hair if people left it. I also wanted to tell them they could become part of the LOL program or the WFK program.

I had even thought of donating my hair someday IF I ever wanted to cut it.

Then over the years as I was participating on the forums I saw all the threads about how shady they were. The thing that really bothers me besides the doubts about these charities is that if they were to combine their efforts they would do more good. Maybe they wouldn't have the financial troubles if the sponsors were donating to one organization instead of having to pick and choose. I am always surprised how many people have heard of one of the charities and not the other. I guess it depends on which talk show they've watched or which magazine they've read. On top of that there's another one in Canada called Angel Hair.

Anyway back to the question, if I ever decide to cut my hair in an amount that is enough to donate it will depend on how I feel at that time. At this time a majority of my thoughts say I won't send it to a charity.

To this point in time no one has mentioned to me anything about donating my hair. Meaning no strangers making comments nor relatives. I'm sure it will come soon though.

There is no shame in keeping your hair. Nor is there shame in donating. It doesn't matter whether you knew about the problems with the charities or not. Everyone gets to decide for themselves and I will support their decision.

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Let's stay this civilized and we won't need to forget the thread; there are some new people who's input could be interesting   Aren't we a friendly bunch?

I wouldn't donate my hair.  If I ever cut my hair (I would have to be heavily drugged or something, but anyway...) I would keep it to use in my art.  If I got cancer myself, and knew I would lose my hair, i would make a wig from my own.  If a close friend or my sister got cancer I would offer them my hair for a wig. 

God willing I will never be in that kind of situation.  But I'm as likely to donate my hair to a cancer patient as I am to donate a breast - not very

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I agree 100% with what everyone else said about the shadiness of LOL and other such organizations.

However, I will admit that I've donated my hair to them twice.  I saw a 20/20 special about it and thought it was a really great idea, so I donated about 15 inches- my first major haircut.  A year or so later, I donated 10 more inches.  When I found out about LOL's issues with the Better Business Bureau, I was infuriated that I'd hacked off my beloved hair for nothing.  Five years have gone by and I will never donate my hair again.

Furthermore, many people I know see me growing my hair now and ask if I'm going to donate it.  And when I say no, they act like I'm being selfish and mention how they've donated theirs x amount of times.  I tell people my reasons for not doing it (mostly how untrustworthy I find LOL to be) and they act like I'm just making it up because I want an excuse to be decadent and keep my long hair. 

I guess hair donation is a good idea in theory, but these organizations need to be seriously reformed.  Fake hair wigs are much easier to take care of than real hair wigs anyway.  I mean, think about how damaged your hair can get.  And then think about having that damage without being able to use exercise, vitamins & minerals, your body's natural proteins, etc. to rejuvenate your hair.  I see the self-esteem issues that could arise from wearing synthetic hair, but let's be practical here.  Seriously.

Hopefully they won't lock this topic; it may get a little heated but I think it's important for people to see and contribute to.

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I think this is one of the few boards where people consistenly stay level headed.Which is probably the main reason its my favorite anymore.The other boards can be a bit much sometimes,lol.

I had no idea the LOL was so shady.I had heard people say they wouldnt donate to them.I never really cared knowing if my hair were long I wouldnt donate it.It takes time and work to grow and maintain long healthy hair.I definitely dont think thats being selfish.I agree with purplebubba,I think everyone should decide for themselves.To some their hair is just kind of their.And for others its like a part of their body.cutting it off would be like losing an arm.I guess my main thing is how disturbing it is that they are making a profit off of this charity?! Or am I confused.Isnt that illegal.



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I don't know how much they actually get to take home, if anyone cares to analyze it, you can find it on the better business bureau's website http://www.give.org/reports/care2_dyn.asp?733

It shows all their spending and how much they made, how much the boss gets for an annual salary, etc.  I assume what they make isn't illegal because the better business bureau does not seem to have a problem with that aspect of it?  I'm not worried about it enough to do the calculating right now myself.  Like I said in my post above, they do make 150,000 bucks in hair sales, and that's the part I felt they should fess up about to their donors, (that their hair may be used for an alopecia areata patient, or may be sold to someone who just wants a wig or extensions).  Like I say, I know they need to make money to survive, and I'm not holding a grudge against them for that, but I wouldn't cut just for them because they should be more honest.  Not just reporting it to the better business bureau, but stating on their website exactly how the process works for all the donors to see what may happen to their hair and make their own decisions based on it.

 

 

   

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Originally posted by Longhairdreams Longhairdreams wrote:

I think this is one of the few boards where people consistenly stay level headed.Which is probably the main reason its my favorite anymore.The other boards can be a bit much sometimes,lol.

I had no idea the LOL was so shady.I had heard people say they wouldnt donate to them.I never really cared knowing if my hair were long I wouldnt donate it.It takes time and work to grow and maintain long healthy hair.I definitely dont think thats being selfish.I agree with purplebubba,I think everyone should decide for themselves.To some their hair is just kind of their.And for others its like a part of their body.cutting it off would be like losing an arm.I guess my main thing is how disturbing it is that they are making a profit off of this charity?! Or am I confused.Isnt that illegal.

Thank you Long Hair for your kind words about HairTalk.  We try very very hard on an hourly basis to monitor boards and make sure that we do stay level headed.

My biggest problem with LOL, other than the heavily doc*mented shadiness factor, is that I get so many emails from desparately unhappy young girls who were coerced, forced, harrassed to donate their hair by family, friends, society...because it was "the unselfish" thing to do.  Never mind that their hair may never even wind up in a wig for a deserving person.  It breaks my heart to see their very sad first reaction "after the fact".  They cry, they ask for ways to grow their hair back "as fast as possible" and they confess that they would never have done if they had not been forced. 

It makes me furious while breaking my heart at the same time.  There is already so many things that destroy many young people's chances at developing a positive self esteem.  Now there is pressure from them to give up their hair or be branded selfish.  What message does that promote?

Also, you have no idea how many Press Releases I get on a daily basis where some the latest small town paper touts the latest teen who chopped it all off "for a good cause".  It is like reporters who have nothing better to write about focus on your girls being forced to chop off their beloved locks.  Which of course then just promotes the cause more because of the human desire to be "in the news".

Literally I get one a day lately.  So sad.

I am not against charity nor am I specifically against LOL.  I believe in good causes, charity & helping people in need.  I also believe that people can donate to any great cause by having car washes, bake sales, corporate sponsored runs, saving & donating their pennies.  Hairboutique.com has donated literally hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Red Cross to help with the hurricane disaster efforts.  We didn't require anyone to cut off any body parts to do that. 

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I would never cut my hair short anyway now, I'll be one of those white haired granny's with waist length hair , but I think it's truly awful that something like LOL is shady. I bet it wasn't like that when it started out, it's as it's grown and become a "business" that it's gotten like that.

I've never been asked to donate my hair, maybe it doesn't happen so much in the UK, if anyone did I would tell them it's MY hair and I want to keep it. I could always donate cash or something if they tried to take me on a guilt-trip.

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Yeah, I've never been asked about donating hair either. It's probably an american thing. 

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Even *if* LoL is totally legit, I wouldn't donate my hair to them. I would
rather donate money towards research for a cure (for cancer or alopecia,
which is the actual disease LoL mentions).

Besides, there are thousands of charities in the world. We can't possibly
support all of them, and we have to pick and choose how to spend our
volunteer time, money, or whatever else. No one gets upset that I don't
donate my car to the Salvation Army's auto donation program, so it should
be the same way about my hair.
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No I would not.  For one thing, I do color my hair, and it is my understanding that these organizations want virgin hair.  Another thing i that it takes me years to grow my hair.  If I am so inclined, I can think of better ways for me to give to a charity.  The trite phrase, 'its only hair, dead skin cells, it will grow back' does not take into account the years of growing.

My boyfriend did though - he has very fast growing hair and had let it get to down past his shoulder blades at one point.  He wanted it cut and a hairdresser friend of his mother mentioned the charity, so he was happy to give.  But no one coerced him.

If someone tried to guilt or coerce me into doing this for charity, I think I would have some very unkind words for that person.  And I also find it infuriating that people prey upon teenagers for this kind of thing.  I am  leery of most big 'charity' organizations anyways since much of the donations usually go into salaries or funding for more charity drives.

Interesting thing though - the 'shadiness' of the charities mentioned.    There is a lot of money to be made in extensions where installs can cost from anywhere from $500 to $4500.   Hmmmmm.


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Originally posted by Tyranna Tyranna wrote:


For one thing, I do color my hair, and it is my understanding that these organizations want virgin hair.

Yes, that's my understanding too.  Oddly, though, just this evening I was skimming the covers of the magazines displayed at the local public library... when I noticed the Teen Vogue had a cover mention of a hair change.  Curious, I checked.  Alas, a lass lost her locks for mentioned organization. (booo!) Curiously, the corresponding words stated that her hair was lightened (colored) before being cut.  WTH?  Morons!
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