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    Posted: March 17 2006 at 9:28pm
when i CO, mine feels soft. it doesn't feel heavy like others are describing tho...it actually feels alot lighter. i also have alot of breakage through my hair right now, which all seemed to flyaway and reach for the sky. nothing a little mayonaise didn't fix 
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as you say, COing makes the hair heavier and darker. My hair is quite heavy to start with though so I really don't want to make it weight more! You're right though-it's all an ongoing experiment!

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It's still an experiment for us too.  We use primarily CO; however, we still use shampoo on Jennifer's hair from time to time as well.  We have found that when we shampoo her hair, it gets very dry so we have to do more oiling to add some moisture to it.  As you say LadyFrog, the shampoo does leaves her hair much lighter looking and feeling.  CO leaves her hair clean, but feeling heavier and not so fluffy.  Overall, we both like CO better.

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Hi Tdouty and Jennifer, Thanks for the recommendation for a clarifying conditioner. I will check it out. I think the ACV rinses may be too harsh for my hair (they definitely clarify though!). I'm probably going to do what you're doing, LadyFrog, and do CO one week and shampoo the next. It's really an ongoing experiment.

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I have to admit I shampooed last wash. My hair looked so much better and lighter afterwards. I think that I may go to CO one week and shampoo the next or something similar. My hair doesn't get greasy though now!

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SpecialKitty, do you use a clarifying conditioner once in a while to remove the buildup?  We just use Suave Clarifying Conditioner once every week or two and it does the trick.

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I finally broke down today and used a bit of shampoo after an ACV rinse. I just had too much conditioner build-up in my hair - it was totally lifeless. The ACV rinse had been so drying that I added a tiny bit of conditioning shampoo. I will go back to CO but just needed that little boost of shiny bouncy hair for a bit to resist my urge to cut it all off!
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Thank You Anais!
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SpecialKitty, I love the waves in your sig hair

Tdouty, good to see you around!

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Sorry we haven't participated lately in the forum.  We're around, but just reading.  It's strange, but with Jennifer's hair, we knew the CO was making her hair feel nicer, although the itchy scalp was driving her crazy from time to time and she was having flakes from scalp buildup.  Once in a great while, we'll use shampoo on her hair (yes even on the ends, I know ... BAD! ... but it's too tempting) and immediately it's light and fluffy, but a day or two later it begins to feel like straw.  It's nothing the conditioner can't fix in a few days.  The CO definitely makes her hair feel much healthier.  We've been trying to use ACV rinses each time we wash her hair lately and the itchiness and flakes are beginning to diminish so maybe this is good.  I still give her head and good scratching every day or two.  I don't know if it helps anything, but she enjoys it so it's doing some good.  I have a couple new pictures so I'll be updating her signature here soon.  LadyFrog, it's good to hear your hair looks better today.  If you can stick with it and find solutions to the problems, the CO will be worth it.

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Just COing for the last month. Oddly, it doesn't feel as piecy today. Maybe it's reabsorbed or something? I don't know but at least it's looking better

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Probably a diluted shampoo is in order.....have you been shampooing at all or just CO for the last few weeks? I am thinking about using the Chagrin Valley soaps Anais mentioned, since that piecy-stringy thing keeps happening to me after awhile.

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My hair's a bit piecy now  I'm at a bit of a loss as to what to do-just carry on COing or do a diluted shampoo, or see if just rinsing with water would unpiece it (my Mum is convinced that it's the residue from conditioner that's making it clump together.)

Suggestions?

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I tried CO last week...not too good. I found my hair felt very greasy, dull
and weighed down at the roots. It felt nice though...kind of heavy in a
way. I'm not sure if it's for me. I like my hair to lift at the roots, and CO
made it very flat at the top. But, today I shampooed with Citre'Shine (citra,
citri whatver) and my hair looks shiney and feels soft. I only use it once in
a while, when my hair starts to feel weighed down. I think after all that
COing and then a good cleansing...resulted in soft yet light clean-feeling
hair. So perhaps I'll stick with that routine and see how it goes.
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Cool! A soap for shampoo - that would really help me since I travel a great deal for work. Thanks Anais
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Hey ladies, just this week I tried out Chagrin Valley natural shampoo bars. They work wonderfully for that once-in-awhile wash in between CO'ings and I don't get the "piecyness". The scalp didn't itch until about the 5th day.

Just throwing that out in case anyone is looking for a natural shampoo alternative too... I'd been considering CV for a long time, in place of my first CO conditioner to avoid slathering something on the scalp. It worked really well so far (although I miss the CO slickness)

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Great info, thanks LF! I'm glad your CO is going well also. I will try to find that link soon.
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I comb my hair and then use a hairstick to trace lines across my head, lifting and separating the hair as I go. It means the roots aren't plastered against my head. There is a proper article on how to do it on long hair community but the sites being redone and not all the links are there yet.

I hope the instructions are clear enough-I didn't know how else to describe it!

I'm glad your CO is going well

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Hi LadyFrog, yes I am still doing CO most weeks with good results. Last week, however, I used some diluted shampoo because I was speaking at a conference and wanted my hair down, and the "piecy-ness" you speak of I have as well. So that was the first shampoo I've used in a couple of weeks. I also cleaned all my hair tools at the same time.

I'm going 3-4 days in between CO's and my hair is wavy, soft, and not greasy at all. No itchies either. I've found CO works far better for me than oiling or using butters. If I use either, I have to then use shampoo to wash out the greasies. If I only CO, then my hair is not greasy at all.

I am still using the Burt's Bees Carrot Seed Oil Spray in between washes to dampen for braiding, and that is such a light spray that it is really almost like using water. As for method, I just wet my hair in the shower, use Aveda diluted conditioner, let it sit, rinse, then Lush Veganese conditioner, rinse, then Aveda for the final, then rinse. I alternate using leave-in every few washes.

LadyFrog, can you tell me how to use a hairstick to put volume in your roots? I'd like to try it!

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Ok, this is the third week of my second CO attempt and everythings going fine. I washed my hair once a week and it looked...good! My hair doesn't seem to get greasy, just a little piecy occasionally. which is good I guess, easier to hide!

This last wash, I wet my hair with cold water, then wa5rm water and combed through a load of conditioner, massaged, put it in a stickless bun and let it sit whilst I finished my shower. Then I rinsed it out and finished with a blast of cold water. I put a bit of leave in on the ends and used a hairstick to lift my roots. It seems to have left it clean and it looks like it did with shampoo, just less flyaway.

Are you still attempting CO SK?

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