It's cool you are still having a great time with this, and i think Carrie's colour is great, not too OTT. It's also cool he's getting more adveturous too. But then most men secretly love having their hair played with so he must be loving all the extra attention.
Enjoy and let us know when you are going to surprise him with the next step
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Nothing really new per se, but Nathan is keeping the style. He's had it trimmed twice now. Actually, the second time he had it trimmed, Kara changed things up just a little bit and made the style slightly more dramatic I guess would be a good word for it. She did less blending between layers which really makes them stand out. He's also continuing to grow the length and it's now down around mid-back.
Of course, him having such a great hairstyle makes me want to play with his hair even more often than before, so I'm sure that Nathan would tell you that he's getting way more than his fair share of curls and braids and styling products . I also introduced him to hair accessories when he got a little frustrated with trying to control the shoter layers/bangs around his face and he seems to actually like them, which is just fine with me. He even wears them out sometimes, though never in front of his guy friends for obvious reasons. But he's gone places like the grocery store and the movies with his hair fastened in barrettes or pulled up in a big clip. So cute!
Recently I've become a bit fascinated with the idea of going for a slightly lighter color than his current dark blonde. So the next step might be getting him some coloring or highlights. Hey, he's done Lindsay Lohan already, so maybe it's time for a little Carrie Underwood!! Of course he hasn't actually agreed to anything.......yet!!
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When you get Nathan's style trimmed again, can you post pics of it from the side and back? I know he would not want his face on the net (nor would I), but you have sure got us all curious of the look. Then we can also see how long it is. Thanks.
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That's a great hairstyle. Sure wish we could see a pic (without his face, of course). I would describe that style as having long bangs, rather than long layers.
At least that's what my stylist says. When I was at my last appointment, I brought pics of several different long styles with me just to get my stylist's opinion. The ones like the style your bf got she said had bangs.
She actually highly suggested that we start with the 3782 style and see how that goes. I really don't want to go that short. But maybe the same style, yet longer.
I'd love the style your bf got, but I really need to be able to pull all of my hair back.
How often does your stylist suggest trims to keep his current style?
Hey SS. Glad you approve of the style.
As for the bangs vs. layers thing, I'd say that bangs are just really short layers. I hear them called either. However, when I was dealing with Nathan about the style, I was pretty careful to say 'layers' b/c I think that calling them bangs would probably have produced a fairly negative response from him.
Oooh, I love #3782. And I think you're right--it's very pretty but also conservative in terms of the wear-it-in-a-ponytail criterion. It would be awesome if you went with that.
As far as freuqency of trims, Kara was saying that it really depends on the person since hair grows at different lengths on different people, but that, on average, most people with that kind of style needed trims about every 1-1.5 months to keep the shape looking really sharp. It's a pretty high-maintenance style in terms of trimming, but not so bad in terms of day-to-day maintenance. Nathan will probably get his cut a little less frequently than recommended. It's already been about 1.5 months and he hasn't gone back yet. His hair's shape isn't quite what it was right after his cut, but it still looks great to me. But I should probably start suggesting that he go back pretty soon. After last time though, I think he may be a little scared of what Kara will do with him .
That's a great hairstyle. Sure wish we could see a pic (without his face, of course). I would describe that style as having long bangs, rather than long layers.
At least that's what my stylist says. When I was at my last appointment, I brought pics of several different long styles with me just to get my stylist's opinion. The ones like the style your bf got she said had bangs.
She actually highly suggested that we start with the 3782 style and see how that goes. I really don't want to go that short. But maybe the same style, yet longer.
I'd love the style your bf got, but I really need to be able to pull all of my hair back.
How often does your stylist suggest trims to keep his current style?
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Thanks for the up-date. Great style choice. Sounds like a very fun time for all three of you.
Hey Jo. Glad you like the choice. This whole deal with Nathan's hair turned out so much better than I expected.
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Did Kara set his hair or use the curling iron to create his curls. I didn't know you were going to add the make-up. Sounds even more fun.
She just used the curling iron. Wise choice I think. He was going along with everything and being a good sport, but I think sitting there for a while in curlers may have been a bit much.
The makeup really wasn't part of the plan. Kara just basically said "well, we've gone this far, how about a little more...." and just kind of did it. He complained a little, but I think he was enjoying the attention he was getting from a couple of pretty cute girls . He did put his foot down at one point when Kara tried to tweeze his eyebrows. He wasn't going for that at all.
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Glad he likes the style and isn't getting teased. Hope you are continuing to curl his hair for him and do the make-up too.
He's very lucky to have such a wonderful girlfriend.
Thanks for the compliment Jo. He does seem to like it. And yeah, since his style, we've been having a lot of fun with his hair. And even a little makeup too on occasion .
Chrissy, good to hear from you again. I haven't seen the commercial, but it sounds interesting. I'll watch out for it.
Hey, thanks to both of you for your interest and advice. It's been fun letting you guys in on mine and Nathan's sort-of-secret life. Thanks for being supportive and offering all of those suggestions.
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Sounds like a great experience, and super nice to hear how your BF seems to be okay with the cuter style.
I have been seeing a commercial for a shampoo, Herbal Essence, that had biker-chick hand off her shampoo to a biker-guy with long hair. When he comes walking back with his long hair in bouncy waves even his biker buddies open their eyes wide at the effect!...though it leave whether it's more in appreciation or shock up to the reader to decide.
But the idea of a guy with really beautful and feminine hair and enjoying it reminded me of this thread, and seemed to be okay to the observers, which is super cool to see! Glad it is working out for you Jenney!...and can't wait to hear about new styles and experiences you two have.
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Thanks for the up-date. Great style choice. Sounds like a very fun time for all three of you. Did Kara set his hair or use the curling iron to create his curls. I didn't know you were going to add the make-up. Sounds even more fun. Glad he likes the style and isn't getting teased. Hope you are continuing to curl his hair for him and do the make-up too.
He's very lucky to have such a wonderful girlfriend.
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I haven't replied to this thread in a while because I've been super-busy. Plus the thread seemed to have become a little distracted. Even at this point, I don't really have time to give much detail on what has happened, but I'll give a quick run-down for any of you who are interested in the status of my saga to date.
First, we did it! About a month ago now (I know, I've really been slack with updates!), we got Nathan in the chair, and we gave him a great style.
The last time I was here, I mentioned that I was going to sit down with Kara and talk about styles for Nathan's hair. Well, I told her about a lot of the ideas that we had bounced around here, including some of the ones you guys have mentioned. She liked the general idea of the long layers, and she had some suggestions of her own. Ultimately we ended up hanging out and looking at pictures on her laptop--she has a bunch of hairstyle pictures saved. We also searched the web for other styles which is where we eventually found a lot of what we wanted. We ended up picking several layered styles that varied in their level of.......I'm not really sure what to call it--extremity maybe?. But our favorite was one of Lindsay Lohan's long-layered styles (I got Kara to send me the link: http://www.bartcop.com/ll-05.jpg ), but we had several other more conservative styles that would have worked. When we talked to Nathan about, we expected that we would end up with one of the more conservative styles of the bunch, if anything. But, Nathan surprised us completely. I guess he was amused or interested by the idea of us giving him hair like Lindsay Lohan--he really thinks that she's hot--and he actually agreed to it! Once the appointment came, he was a little less enthusiastic, but I kept reminding him that Kara was giving up her evening to do this (she let us come in as the last appointment and stay a little late). Kara was also able to relax him a little bit by telling him that the style wouldn't look feminine when it was pulled back in a ponytail (which was actually quite a lie!).
So he did it. He let Kara give him a style that's pretty close to the picture in the link, at least in terms of shape. Nathan's hair is a lighter color and isn't highlighted or anything, and in the picture LL has used styling products to give her layers a chunkier look, but the length and overall shape of Nathan's hair is now very similar to the picture. He was a really good sport about it too. He didn't complain or act nervous the whole time. He didn't even complain when Kara decided to have a little fun with him and took things farther than I ever would have expected. When she was finished with his cut, she told Nathan that the style would look great curled, and then said she wouldn't charge us at all if he'd let her give him curls (although she told me later that she never really intended to charge us anyway!). I don't know if Nathan was feeling cheap or if he had just decided to go along with whatever the two crazy girls wanted, but by the time he walked out of the salon that evening, he not only had his new hairstyle, he also had a head full of bouncy curls and a very stylishly made-up face . He even wore the curls and makeup until bedtime that evening, although he was pretty nervous the whole time that someone would see him.
So far, he hasn't complained about his hairstyle even though we clearly stretched the truth telling him that it wouldn't be obvious in a ponytail. Even in a ponytail higher than most guys wear one, he still has the short layers loose around his face. But he doesn't seem to mind and actually seems to enjoy the style. I think he secretly likes having pretty hair . Of course, it probably helps that he gets a lot of compliments on it. And as far as I know, even his guy friends haven't given him a hard time about it. It's been over a month at this point, and his hair has grown out quite a bit since the cut. It doesn't look quite as pretty anymore, but he's already agreed to keep the style for the near future.
Wow. As usual, I sat down to write a short little message, and end up with this. Thanks to all of you here at HB who offered ideas and encouragement. This is one of the only places where I can really share my obsession with Nathan's hair and not get raised eyebrows (although you may very well have raised eyebrows, I just can't see them!). I'll let you know if anything else happens with this.
Jenny B.
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I wanted to send you a quick reply. I find it very interesting that the Pep Squad at Blair's middle school requires both boys and girls to wear skorts. Hasn't that caused a lot of controversy among the parents, especially those with boys on the squad? You mentioned that because Blair had long hair he had to wear it in a high pony tail with a bow. Do any of the other boys have long hair? How did the boys without long hair wear theirs? How did it go with Blair at school and at the football game?
I have posted a message to you in your private mail box. I'll give you a "bridesmaid" update later.
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Hi Sharon, thanks so much for the update, and how exciting! I'm sure if you and your family keep things light and fun Morgan will have a wonderful bridesmaid experience. My suggestion is to allow him as much time 'en femme' as possible between now and the wedding -- Blair dressed more or less in girls' things for all the events leading up to the wedding so he and everyone in the wedding party was comfortable. And make sure you do hairdo trials at the salon before the big day!
I wouldn't say Blair's in anti-feminine mode – his bob actually looks more cute and girlish than his hair did longer, especially when he wears it back in a headband (I do miss doing his long braids, though…). He started school at his new middle school last week, and the big news is that Blair has joined the Pep Squad. It's coed, and it's a requirement for girls and boys who want to try out next year for cheerleader or drillteam (poms). The first football game is tomorrow and he has to wear his uniform to school for the first time. It's a white sweater with the school logo and a skort thingie (shorts with a front panel to look like a skirt), with white socks and his cheer shoes from this summer. Because he has long hair he has to wear it up in a ponytail with a bow. He's very excited and nervous at the same time. I worry about him getting teased, especially with a ribbon in his hair, but he's determined and the sponsors have promised to help support Blair and the other boys (I think there's 2 or 3) on the squad.
Sorry to be so long in answering your last message. We have been away on vacation. My sister and I (the one getting married) took the kids on a driving trip in the Northwest. The weather was perfect and we had a lot of fun.
A lot has happened since my last post. As I mentioned, my sister thought that having my son Morgan along with his sister Megan as bridesmaids was a great idea. So did Megan. The two of them worked on Morgan during the entire trip. I just stayed out of it. It had to be his decision and I wasn't going to put any pressure on him either way. It didn't take them very long to convince him that it would be a lot of fun and that he should be a bridesmaid like the rest of us.
You said that it would be hard for Morgan to wear a dress at the wedding if he hadn't crossdressed before. Actually, he has. I mentioned that he had played girls parts in school plays at the all boys school he attends. He has done this three times. You might have wondered how he could wear his hair as long as he does and conform to the grooming standards that are pretty common at most boys schools. As an inducement for boys to play the girls parts in the school's theater , they can wear their hair as long as they want (provided it is well groomed) if they will agree to play girls parts in all the productions. It also almost guarantees an A grade. Morgan is one of those boys. Before each of the plays Megan and I (especially Megan) have worked with him on his movements, mannerisms, speech etc. during which time he was always dressed in some of her hand-me down clothes. The day before each production, I took him to my stylist for a feminine hairdo which he kept for the duration of the performances. All of the boys made very cute and believable girls, but in my unbiased opinion, Morgan was the best and the prettiest. So, as you can see, this will not be unexplored territory for him.
I was surprised to hear that your Blair had cut his hair. Is he still in the anti-feminine mode? What did he choose for school clothes?
Sorry this has gone on for so long, but I wanted to let you know why Morgan being a bridesmaid wasn't such a total trauma. We haven't told my mother about it yet, so don't know how she will react. She is making the bridesmaid dresses. She was fine with him playing girls parts in the plays and seemed quite proud of her grandson.
This has run on far too long. I'll be interested to hear more about Blair and I'll keep you posted on the progress of the "bridesmaid".
All the best,
Sharon
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Hi Sharon, I'm glad my post was helpful. These are very personal choices and I think it's great that you are taking an open-minded approach. Again, it all comes down to what your son, and the bride, are comfortable with.
My husband grew up in a very repressive, homophobic environment in the South and he has always thought that for our children the choice of personal appearance is a right. He's not always comfortable with Blair's choices – applauding his son in a cheerleading outfit with a hairbow was tough on him, I know – but he's done a lot of soul-searching (and frankly talked to a few therapists as have I) and we've just decided the best thing is to go along for now while making it clear to Blair that unconventional choices, particularly gender-bending ones, could have serious consequences.
I re-read my post and it may sound like I'm pushing Blair to be girlish. I'm really not … when I said I was proud of him for doing his hair like the girls, or wearing a bridesmaid's dress, it was for believing in himself and doing what makes him happy without worrying too much what other people think.
As for Blair himself, he's truly enjoying exploring the feminine world and he doesn't really think about the longer-term consequences (that's our job). And the reactions he's gotten – at the cheer clinic and at the wedding -- have been about 90% positive. (You should have seen his sisters and the other bridesmaids "taking care of him" at the salon and at the wedding – it was so sweet!)
I think there were some snide comments from a groomsman or 2, but the one who got to escort Blair up the aisle was very gracious. I'd say less than half of the attendees (about 200) knew he was a boy. We just didn't make a big deal out of it. Frankly just about everyone in our family is used to it.
Since the wedding, I've noticed Blair has been pretty 'subdued' in his hairstyle-and-clothing choices. He has a couple of hand-me-down skirts from his sisters that he likes to wear around the house, but he hasn't put one on in the last few weeks, and he got his hair trimmed significantly (it's now in a chinlength bob that's just adorable). I've asked if he'd like me to put his hair in rollers a couple of times and he's said "No thanks." We're going to pick out his clothes for the fall this weekend and I'll be interested to see what he picks out!
I'd say that having your son wear a dress in the wedding would be hard if he hasn't crossdressed before. You might want to let him try out a few things (like having his hair done) first and see if he's comfortable. Blair had never gone out in public in a skirt, much less a dress, before, but I know if he hadn't already gotten used to girls' things and having his hair done in rollers (and if he didn’t have such supportive sisters ) he wouldn't have been ready to do the bridesmaid thing.
Thank you for your very interesting and thought provoking reply to my post. I apologize for not responding sooner.
Evidently your Blair is quite comfortable dressing and appearing as a girl. Does he do this often or has it been limited to the occasions you describe?
When I expressed my quandry about what to have my son wear in my sisters wedding, I was thinking in terms of a tuxedo or perhaps a jacket or shirt that matched the color of the bridemaid's dresses. I have to admit that my sister and I jokingly talked about having him wear a matching dress, but didn't seriously consider it. Your post has changed that.
I showed it to my sister and we both looked at the Atlanta Bridal website you mentioned. I have some doubts about the authenticity of some of those posts, by the way. Anyway, my sis now thinks it would be a great idea to have my son as a bridesmaid in a dress. With his long hear she thinks he would be beautiful and I must admit that he probably would.
I haven't mentioned this to him and don't know what his reaction might be. He has dressed as a girl before for Halloween and played a girl's part in school plays (He goes to an all boy's school). Even if he would agree, I'm not sure I would go along with it.
I would be very interested to hear what the overall reaction was at the wedding. How did family and friends respond? Has there been any fallout since? How did your husband deal with this? You said that the bride and bridesmaids were very supportive, but how about the groom and his groomsmen, and his side of the aisle? I'm sure there were many photos taken both official wedding party photos and others. These will be around forever. Do you think this will be a source of embarrassment for Blair in the future? I'm considering all of these things before I even say anything to him about it.
I'll be interested to hear more.
Sincererly,
Sharon
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Hi Sharon, thanks for your interest. This will be a super-long reply, hope you don’t mind …. The cheerleading clinic went great! Blair really worked hard & made some friends. I think the girls just accept that he loves to cheer and he's not afraid of looking 'girly' and they actually enjoyed having a boy with them. They had an exhibition for the parents at the end of the clinic and the girls were asked to curl their hair and wear high curly ponytails with bows. I spoke to the director and she said Blair could just wear his usual ponytail or go with the girls' hairdo. The girls were encouraging him to do his hair like theirs & ultimately he decided to go along. I think he just wanted to blend in and be one of the cheerleaders if you see what I mean.
He slept in curlers that night, and wore them until right before we had to leave for the gym. I did his ponytail with a white bow. I was so proud of him. My husband was there and he does a great job of being supportive even when other parents look at him oddly for having a boy cheerleader for a son. Next year he'll be old enough to try out so we'll see what happens then.
Anyway you asked about weddings. As it turns out Blair was in his second wedding over the July 4th weekend. The first one, a couple of years ago, was a cousin on his fathers' side and Blair was one of two "flower-children" – he and a girl dressed alike in sort of long loose-fitting smocks with tights, very unisexual, and he wore his hair done in the updo I described. He had lots of fun and got lots of support and compliments from the others in the wedding party.
This time, he was invited to be one of the bridesmaids. This was for another cousin, the oldest daughter of my older sister, and my sister came to me and asked if Blair along with his sisters would be willing to stand up in a bridesmaids' dress (I think they needed a sixth bridesmaid to make things match up). I said it was totally up to him. He thought about it for a long time but finally he said yes. I think the cheer clinic gave him a lot of confidence about his hair and clothing choices.
Anyway he got to go through the whole experience, the fittings and showers etc., including a roller set and manicure the day of the wedding. The bridesmaids all had long hair and they did "half-ponytails" pulled back with barrettes with cascading curls. Blair wore a simple baby blue sheath dress and low white pumps, with light makeup and soft rose nail polish and if you didn't know he was a boy you'd never have noticed. He was very nervous but he pulled it off gracefully and was very happy he went through with it. The bride was so grateful to him and he got to dance with the other bridesmaids at the reception.
To your question, I think it really depends on the family and the preferences of your son. These days there are lots of options for bridal parties. When we were thinking about the wedding I did some research, talked to some wedding consultants etc. and they said male bridesmaids, either dressed like the others or not, are more common than you'd think. I found the site below, on Atlanta Weddings, and I think reading the stories of other male bridesmaids will be very helpful for you and for your son.
My own opinion is that the most important things are: 1) the bride's feelings and preferences; 2) your son's feelings and preferences, and 3) how others in the wedding party will respond. If your son is comfortable dressing as a bridesmaid it could be a very fun and memorable experience.
Please let me know if you have other questions, and keep us posted on how things turn out!
I hope you are still checking in on this thread once in awhile. It's been a couple of months since you posted anything. I am new here and a latecomer, but was interested in your experiences with you son Blair.
You mentioned in your last post that he was planning on attending cheerleader camp. Did he do so and if so, how did it work out?
The main reason for my post is because of something you said in an earlier post. You described a very girlish updo that you had given your son and that he took part in his cousin's wedding wearing it. What role did he have and how was he dressed? How did it all work out?
I am blessed with a wonderful son who just turned 12 and a delightful daughter who is nearing 14. Like your Blair, my son has long hair.It is a beautiful auburn coloer and extends past his shoulders. He likes wearing it long and doesn't mind taking the time care for it properly and the occasional teasing he gets about it. Like you, we have experimented with various styles, some of them rather feminine.
The reason I am curious about the wedding is that my kid sister is getting married in December. I am to be her Maid of Honor and she wants both of the kids in the wedding party. Both of them are very enthusiastic about being in their Aunties's wedding because she has been like a second mom to them. The problem is where should my son fit in? My sister would like them both to be in the bridal party with her to make it an all family affair. I don't think my son would have a problem with this, nor do I, but the question arises; how should he be dressed, especially with his long hair?
I would be very interested in your experience and any thoughts you might have.
Hey Mystic. Good to hear from you again. How is your own hair-related saga going on? Still growing out that hair and is your wife liking it?
Hi Jenny B,
Yes, I’m still letting the hair grow.I haven’t had it trimmed since the last debacle about 8 weeks ago.My wife hasn’t said much either way lately, but I think my hair is entering that awkward/shaggy stage.My bangs are probably within a ½” or less of the tip of my nose and are rather annoying when I am running or exercising.But, I wish the rest were as long.In the back, the crown probably still only comes down to slightly below the top of my ear and below that it is all about 2 inches with the nape looking a little scraggly, thanks to the last “trim”.The sides (from the crown) are starting to creep over the ears, and if I squint real hard, I can almost imagine the beginnings of a bob.Actually, it could probably use a trim (very slight) and some styling, but I think I am going to hold out until the end of August if I can.I would love to have it styled, but I fear the trimmer.
My wife will likely get tired of it before the end of August.Heck, when she lets her hair grow out, it seems like she gets it cut all the time just because she gets frustrated with it until she finally has that resolve to get through the bad hair days.Hers is getting fairly long now.Me going through bad hair days isn’t a concept she has had the resolve for yet, but you never know.One day at a time.
Until then, I eagerly await the results of Nathan’s new style.
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and it's now down around mid-back.
. I also introduced him to hair accessories when he got a little frustrated with trying to control the shoter layers/bangs around his face and he seems to actually like them, which is just fine with me. He even wears them out sometimes, though never in front of his guy friends for obvious reasons. But he's gone places like the grocery store and the movies with his hair fastened in barrettes or pulled up in a big clip. So cute!
Of course he hasn't actually agreed to anything.......yet!!
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. He did put his foot down at one point when Kara tried to tweeze his eyebrows. He wasn't going for that at all.
. He even wore the curls and makeup until bedtime that evening, although he was pretty nervous the whole time that someone would see him.
