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    Posted: March 12 2019 at 10:09am
i did the bleach bath to freshen up my hair and possibly lighten it up a bit and that did nothing. I then did a test strip with t18 on my damp hair and it turned it a grayish ugly ass color.....BIG SUPRISE!!! So any ways, like I asked previously, are the 10/89 and 10/6 toners or dyes? If they are dyes then how would you go about using them and which one is better
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Hey Born.Blond Are you still using the Schwarzkopf silver shampoo. Im so over the shimmer lights it just turns my hair purple and so dry even after I shampoo the purple out im left with a hint of like gray. Wtf is going on here. I have been stuck on my matrix bleach they have a new Blue formula can I say AMAZING. I still use the matrix color sync toner but I am ready for something else. I just seem to have lost my ability to get pearl white and my hair is to freakin gray purple from shimmer lights it wont go away its been months lol.
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I got to try this shampoo. Is Schwarzkopf BC Bonacure Color Save True Silver Shampoo the same thing that you mentioned that will bring hair to a cool platinum? I want a pale ashy platinum that's not quite white blonde. As for toners, I loved Wella Color Charm Toner in Ivory Lady, it gives me really beautiful shade of pale ivory that's not silvery, yellowish or goldish at all. It does come out a little lilac but the end result is fabulous. After a few shampoos, my hair turns out really pale BUT not white blonde. I'm thinking that white blonde is probably lighter than platinum blonde, is that correct? Another thing is that you should try Roux Fanci-full in White Minx to maintain your white blonde hair in between touch ups. It said:

"   * PRODUCES A WHITE-WHITE TONE
    * RINSES IN AND SHAMPOOS OUT
    * NO AMMONIA OR PEROXIDE
    * 15 APPLICATIONS PER BOTTLE
    * KEEPS COLOR LOOKING ITS BEST BETWEEN COLOR TREATMENTS"
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Sorry DP 

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Personally I've used Shiny Siler Ultra from Sally's which is a purple conditioning shampoo. Seems to work well eliminating brassiness and keeps my hair feeling great.
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Color Touch is DEMI. Anything that requires a developer is not a semi. I currently use that line as toners and it is fantastic. 
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Personally I had better white results with the 10/6.  They are called hair dyes.  But, they are semi-permanent.  Its doesn't matter if its called hair dye or toner.  Use the 10/6 like any other hair dye.  But, I would suggest, putting it on dry hair.  The internet is the only place I had found to buy it.
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well i did the bleach bath to freshen up my hair and possibly lighten it up a bit and that did nothing. I then did a test strip with t18 on my damp hair and it turned it a grayish ugly ass color.....BIG SUPRISE!!!
 
So any ways, like I asked previously, are the wella 10/89 and 10/6 toners or dyes? If they are dyes then how would you go about using them and which one is better (10/89 or 10/6)???
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So Im confused, the Wella Colortouch 10/89 and 10/6 are toners or dyes?

 
I prefer to use toners on my hair with it being only "towel" dried. If its all the way dried, it seems to soak up too much of the base of the toner.
 
Im going to do a bleach bath tonight and apply t18 white lady and see how that works.
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After rinsing the bleach and shampooing your hair, I apply Wella InDepth, because it stops the bleaching action from occuring, it adds protein back into the hair and evens out the hairs PH.  After that, I personally, dry my hair or let it air dry, then I apply toner.  I should say I dry my hair if I am using a toner that requires peroxide.  Of course, with virgin snow, the hair should be wet.  But supposedly, any toner with peroxide can be used on wet or dry hair.  I just prefer it to be dry.  As far as the 12A that you pointed out to me in the picture- becareful.  Its an ash color.  My hair picks up the ash base, which with Wella, happens to be a blue color.  So when I get done with 12A, my hair looks very bluish.  I prefer using a toner with a violet base.  I can live with violet looking hair- blue hair isn't for me.  Another thing that I have recently tried and it looked as white as Santas beard- I used clairol 323 after using clairol shimmering lights on my hair twice.  My hair came out a beautiful white.  It will only work if you hair is bleached to the same color as the inside of a banana peel.  Hope this helps, let me know if you have anymore questions.

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What about this? This is from Wella color charm instead of color touch.

 
Im not as sure how to apply their hair color as I am their toner.
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rcarter--so you used wella color touch hair color or toner?  Im assuming its the color by Wella in the 10/89 and 10/6. So you bleach and then add the color to it? Wet or dry hair?
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I have white blonde hair.  I've been bleaching it myself and toning it white since middle of 2008.  Trust me, I have tried just about every purple shampoo/ toner out there. First off, I didn't not have good success with the platinum toners from Punky Colour or Special Effects.  The manic panic is ok sometimes.  I personally light a white violet blonde hair dye made by Wella Color Touch.  I can only by it on the internet,  the best ones are 10/89 and 10/6.  They will give you whiter looking hair than the rest of the toners.   Wella white lady/t18 is ok.  The clairol 323 did nothing for me.  Its also best to use claiol shimmering lights and dilute it with a white shampoo.  If you use the shimmering lights full strength, it tends to make hair look grayish.  Good luck.

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and does the Special Effects brand toner work well? Where can I get that?
 
 
I just want to freakin know what Christina A. does to get her hair that color!!!!!!!! DAMN
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I want names of products that me, myself can purchase at a local supply store and not thru a stylist.

the pic of Christina A. just looks like she bleached the crap out of it. Gwen's hair looks more like it has a toner on it. I like Christina's color more but Im not going to damage my hair severely to get it.
 
Does Color Charm "white Lady" work any better/worse than virgin snow?
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Special Effects I find is best, always. But, like I've said, I've not used the toner. I'm actually really surprised the Virgin Snow turned out well for her. I know of a licensed stylist who had awful results with it, along with many other amateurs. 


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La Riche  Directions  http://haircrazy.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_9&zenid=89debf5643d7697f1dfe6547abd79375 
Silver & White Toners...
(am curious of these two above)
Punky Hair Color Platinum
Fudge Whiter Shade of Pale


Also the Manic Panic (comes in Amplified longer lasting versions)...
r4ch3l what do you like the best / are you using?
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Originally posted by rachpreach rachpreach wrote:

 
Also is manic panic the best, longest lasting toner that will give you the whitest hair??


In the unnaturally-hair colored world, Manic Panic is actually consider a not-great hair color. I've never used the toner of either brand, but Special Effects also makes a toner that I've heard great things about.
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Originally posted by rachpreach rachpreach wrote:

I dont think you can this shampoo at sally's. You can however get it on amazon for a pretty good price or at Ulta. Here is the link to it on amazon.
 
 
I live in the UK, and I always manage to get this shampoo no problem, however in the US, may be different, only one way to find out call on them and ask, lol.
 
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Side note---my hair isnt as intense and bright looking as it looks in my photos I posted. I think the flash intensifies it.

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