I think you missed the point--if people want to sell or donate their hair then let them. I don't know why everyone here takes that so personally. And yes, I really think it seems that most posters here have their whole life wrapped up in their hair. Besides, what does the length of my hair matter to any one of you? If I am bald, am I not allowed to post here? Can I only post here if I have hair to my waist? I'm curious-what would any one of you do if you were to lose your hair to chemotherapy? I think most of you would be very traumatized. So, if someone wants to willingly donate their hair to be used for that purpose, then let them. I think it is great that some people are thinking of others than their own vanity.
I hope I made it clear Dave that I AM supportive of those folks here who enjoy their long hair. I enjoy long hair on people!
To me the diversity of hairstyles on Hair Talk Forum is a great thing. I hope I am supportive of whatever styles people choose for themselves. I enjoy many different hairstyles on people from long to short! Variety is what makes life interesting!
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I realize I am a short haired woman and don't have an attachment to long hair as some do, but I did have very long hair for years, so I know the pleasure,-(and sometimes the hassle)- of having long hair. And I very much like long hair on people! I love beautiful long hair!
.....But folks, please, it is just hair. And whether LOL is a scam to make money or a genuine charity, they are not cutting off a limb of someone here!
.....I grew up with a girl who lived in my neighborhood and went to my school who was born missing an arm at the shoulder, she only had one arm. I also knew a girl whose leg quit growing and had to have her leg amputated when she was about ten years old, because one leg grew normally and the other leg was a little leg that quit growing. These people were missing a limb! Think how difficult that must be. And their limb that is missing doesn't grow back!!! Hair grows back!!! So sure, I understand that people love their long hair, I like long hair too, but people really need to keep a little perspective on things.
No offense to the many nice people on the long haired board, and I very much respect you and usually enjoy what you write, but this thread seems almost fanatic. Hair does grow back. Those girls I knew back home will always have to go through life missing a limb that doesn't grow back. They are handicapped-(or differently abled)-. I am not handicapped because I have short hair, I can do everything you folks can.
So enjoy your long hair,.......... But people do keep some perspective on things and be grateful for our good fortune and health.
Tina,
The issue is not whether we (people, in general) feel badly for those who are born with debilitating conditions. Of course, we all do.
Rather, the issue here is how we (people, in general) choose to treat others regarding their discretionary choices. Unless you are a professional fund-raiser and have been authorized to solicit a group of people under your auspicies(example: United Way campaigns within corporations), performing charitable works does not involve advising others (family, friends, acquaintances, or strangers] how they can, could or should donate their assets. The latter form of solicitation can only be described as unwanted and extremely rude.
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i only know what i've read about locks of love - i've never researched it myself. the one thing that everyone needs to keep in mind is that the hair donated is willingly cut off. no one from locks of love stalks long haired people and attacks them to take their hair.
Becky,
I have a difficult time reconciling description of haircuts as being done "willingly," with countless examples of (as Uzma described) "tear-filled eyes." At most, the term "consciously" might apply, though "willing" does not seem consistent with the measure of reluctance expressed through tears.
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It's one thing if some freak comes up without warning and hacks off your hair. It's another if it's your own choice to donate/sell your hair. Hair does grow, remember this. Not everyone has all of their self esteem/self being wrapped up in having long hair.
I understand Monica's irritation. To the person who goes by the handle of "YearoftheTiger," you are incorrect in assuming that everyone (presumably those who participate on this board) have "all of their self esteem/self being wrapped up in having long hair." The tone of your post seems designed to shame all of us into feeling badly for having and wanting long hair, whatever our own personal reasons may be for this appreciation.
"Hair does grow. Remember this."
I don't think we ever forgot this truth. So your point would be... that we should be glad and happy to forgo having the hair length we prefer, so that our hair should sit in a box somewhere, or be glued to the short strands of someone who doesn't have the patience to grow their own hair long, or be used in an unspeakable way by a lonely person with severe social hangups?
No, I don't subscribe to any unsupportive words.
Besides, limitless supplies of artificial hair can be manufactured.
The following is directed to YearoftheTiger and lurkers of like mind... All those here who like long hair, and are supportive of those who do, you are welcome here. Anyone here who is not supportive of long hair is not welcome on this board.
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It's one thing if some freak comes up without warning and hacks off your hair. It's another if it's your own choice to donate/sell your hair. Hair does grow, remember this. Not everyone has all of their self esteem/self being wrapped up in having long hair.
do you have long hair? this is a LONG HAIR SUPPORT board! yes i think it is wonderful if you want to donate your hair. don't go bashing us because we like having long hair!
It's one thing if some freak comes up without warning and hacks off your hair. It's another if it's your own choice to donate/sell your hair. Hair does grow, remember this. Not everyone has all of their self esteem/self being wrapped up in having long hair.
Yes, I saw that pic and you look great. I would like to see some more of those wedding pics, especially closer-ups of you (and your hair)! Please post!
Elissa xoxoxoxox
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ok, i have to get my 2 cents in. i'm not a long hair girl yet (but am working on it). i only know what i've read about locks of love - i've never researched it myself. the one thing that everyone needs to keep in mind is that the hair donated is willingly cut off. no one from locks of love stalks long haired people and attacks them to take their hair. it's a choice.
now i don't mean that to offend or defend anyone or anything. that's just what i was thinking when i was reading all the posts.
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elissa did you see my wedding pic? i did it half up half down. with big loose curls. you can't see the back but i can even put a picture of the back. i put flowers around the half up part.
Ok Jean! I am still thinking about it! My fiancee loves it up, but I wear it down most of the time and I want to look like "me" at the wedding. I will probably do some kind of combination of up and down, maybe pull up the sides and twist them around on the top of my head like a bun, maybe add a tiara in front of that.
Guess I will have to start frequenting the "Formal Hair" forum!
Elissa! You have a new icon! You're obviously a Disney nut. My sorority big sis had Mickey and Minnie on her wedding cake. :) Not long til your wedding!
Thanks for noticing, SG! The icon is a pic of a figurine I just bought on ebay--I don't know if I will put it on my cake, but guess where we are going on our honeymoon? :) Wedding is in 13 weeks!!!
Sorry Monica, I didn't mean to offend, I understand your point how it is apples and oranges,..... but there just seemed to be so much HATE towards this organization Locks of Love, it just seemed a little out of whack. I try to reserve my hatred towards people a little more evil and sadistic than an organization that sells hair.
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tina you are comparing apples and oranges in my opinion. i'm handicap. thank god i don't have missing limbs. but my close friend does. he has missing limbs on both arms and one leg. yes hair grows back. some people do find there hair apart of them. yes it grows back. that's not the point. i hate when people strart comparing different things on a hair board.
I realize I am a short haired woman and don't have an attachment to long hair as some do, but I did have very long hair for years, so I know the pleasure,-(and sometimes the hassle)- of having long hair. And I very much like long hair on people! I love beautiful long hair!
.....But folks, please, it is just hair. And whether LOL is a scam to make money or a genuine charity, they are not cutting off a limb of someone here!
.....I grew up with a girl who lived in my neighborhood and went to my school who was born missing an arm at the shoulder, she only had one arm. I also knew a girl whose leg quit growing and had to have her leg amputated when she was about ten years old, because one leg grew normally and the other leg was a little leg that quit growing. These people were missing a limb! Think how difficult that must be. And their limb that is missing doesn't grow back!!! Hair grows back!!! So sure, I understand that people love their long hair, I like long hair too, but people really need to keep a little perspective on things.
No offense to the many nice people on the long haired board, and I very much respect you and usually enjoy what you write, but this thread seems almost fanatic. Hair does grow back. Those girls I knew back home will always have to go through life missing a limb that doesn't grow back. They are handicapped-(or differently abled)-. I am not handicapped because I have short hair, I can do everything you folks can.
So enjoy your long hair,.......... But people do keep some perspective on things and be grateful for our good fortune and health.
Oh and I forgot to say what I set out to say in the first place!
Boycotting Goody products won't be difficult. Most of them have a rough plastic seam anyway. Yikes! And their "Ouchless" elastics are still narrow enough to bend my hair. Though they are superior to the old kind with the metal seam... Scuunci's nylon ones are the best I've found so far.
"Hair is a part of you. It is not a part of me, because I am a frog." - Kermit the Frog on Sesame Street1b/N/ii ~ ??"/27"/32"
OMG, Papillon! I think if I had the means to do so, I would severely wound this person. I always carry a nail scissor in my purse! And I did take a self defense class in HS where we learned to stab things in people's eyeballs.
And then there's always that curious punch-em-in-the-solar-plexis thing that's supposed to kill anybody but how would you really know?
I agree Locks of Love is mostly a sham. But if you want to cut your hair short, I guess it's a fine thing to do. Why not? My husband had to cut off his nearly waist length hair a couple years ago because he just wasn't getting any job offers, and in his conservative field, it was probably the cause. :( He's growing it out again now. Now that he has his foot in the door already and has proven himself a good worker. :) But anyway... we saved his ponytail. We figure maybe someday we'll have a daughter and make her a doll with daddy's hair. :) OK, maybe not.
Anyhue... having known a couple kids with cancer... it isn't envogue to wear wigs anymore when you're going through chemo. Most kids seem to feel more comfortable going bald. Which I can see how they feel. Wearing a wig is kind of a denial. Kids that are more self confident don't mind it, and it almost seems they're bald head shows they are strong, working hard to survive cancer, so they are proud of it. Which I think is great.
I wonder why LOL doesn't serve adults. Chemo is expensive and excruciating for everyone, regardless of age. I think adults are just as likely to not be able to afford a wig when they are paying all the medical expenses. And it seems adults would be more likely to want a wig... and probably be less picky about how "virgin" the hair is.
Elissa! You have a new icon! You're obviously a Disney nut. My sorority big sis had Mickey and Minnie on her wedding cake. :) Not long til your wedding!
"Hair is a part of you. It is not a part of me, because I am a frog." - Kermit the Frog on Sesame Street1b/N/ii ~ ??"/27"/32"
That link to ebay sounds just as frightening as the story of a guy in Los Angeles who went around cutting off women's long hair. It was pretty creepy.. imagine sitting at a bus stop when some guy comes by and hacks off your hair..
While you may not be forced to make a donation of your hair or anything else you care about, there is still tremendous societal pressure to do so, often from people who have no other motivation than to take advantage of the chance to be confrontational under the guise of altruism and generosity. Some people are hypocrites who really don't give a d*** about the welfare of others. Please notice I said some, not all. There are many folks out there who mean well.
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