Cultish Militants on the Long Hair Board!!!

Tina, ssshhh!!! Don't blow my cover. I must let them think I can be seduced over to their side in order for me to infiltrate them. Better to bring them down from within.

Right now, I'm dating a long-haired woman. I'm sure the long haired cultists are getting chills down their spines thinking what evil thoughts I could plant in her head.

ight now, I'm dating a long-haired woman. I'm sure the long haired cultists are getting chills down their spines thinking what evil thoughts I could plant in her head.

Resistance is futile, Rod.

Your lady is one of us...you think you can take her over to the "dark" side....no way lover-man...she's working on you, babe.

See, your already posting here...that's step 1 of the MasterPlan.

Quick, someone...hide the Manifesto!!!!!

Hi Rod

You haven't spoken to your girlfriend about your hair-thing. Wow. Having read your postings on the other board which show your enthusiasm for "s" hair (sorry, I find myself unable to say the word today), that must take "some" self-control.
I guess it's all about timing and preparation.
*makes mental note not to under-estimate the enemy*

My ex was my ex-boyfriend of 9 years, not husband (I don't agree with the concept of marriage, for myself). What a sicko and stupid me for putting up with that crap. Now I am searching for a long-hair lover-man who will accept my militant self with glee and take pleasure in my ever longer hair .
And when I find him, I'm going to break his legs so that he can't run away.
*makes mental note to never let the enemy under-estimate the Growth Guerillas*)

I do apologise for taking your and Kuroneko's words out of context. I considered that a necessary device to keep the original post tight and punchy.
And I intended to send you both a formal invitation to this board to view our responses, once I had a substantial amount.
After all, we long haired folks may be lazy initially, but our old-fashioned manners win out in the end....

It's been a pleasure to recieve...what is it...your 3rd posting on our Heavenly Hair board, which is full of bright and beautiful long-haired gals just waiting you wrap you in their tresses and take all the darkness away from your mind .

And you'll be in excellent company as the males in our little troupe are so remarkablly intelligent - the physical inertia causes a dramatic increase in mental activity, you know.

So come on over any time you feel like, Rod dear.
If you ever care to explore the Light side...I'll be waiting.

Uzma wrote on the SHB :
"And the guys here are very forthcoming with their appreciation of short hair on women....sigh...I wish we had more of that on the Long Hair board..... "

Hmmmm, seems we need to do better. Uzma, you have beautiful hair, ok?

Chris

>>>The post was made in response to a post by Jennifer savaging short hair and those that wear it

Yes, it’s my fault! All my fault! I’ve been plotting and planning my vicious attack for months and years and decades. 9/11 and the Moscow suicide bombers today were also my fault! {wink}

Dave, I have a great reply for you (or anyone) for when someone says your hair is “out of date”:

I don’t follow trends. I’m an individual and make my own style!

I do have to say that I find a lot more criticism of long hair instead of short hair in society – especially on women after the decrepit age of 30 or 35. I do think if you really look around, the vast majority of women past those ages do cut off their hair. I don’t know if it’s because of pressure or personal preference. If you look at websites, books, and magazines that tell how to look “professional” for the job market, the vast majority of them say that a shorter haircut will give you more of a business look. And for men? I can’t imagine the pressure men are under to keep their hair short.

Dave, I’ve actually had a change of thought about long hair on men. Generally, I never really cared for the look because, unfortunately, most men I’d seen didn’t take very good care of it, and it was usually gnarly and looked unwashed. However, for some reason, I’ve seen several guys recently with hair to mid back or even longer, and I found it quite attractive in a very masculine sense! I personally think that hair is very sensual, and the more there is....! I love the variety of being able to secure my hair totally up yet letting it flow down and kiss my shoulders and back. The ponytails, barrettes, braids, updos – the styling varieties are nearly endless.

As for men preferring brunettes over blondes (from the article), my theory is that a lot of blondes are very “fake” looking. What I mean is that it’s extremely obvious that the color is not real. I don’t know why a lot of women find platinum “white” attractive.

Oh, but I do agree about women hiding behind long hair. When you comb your hair from the crown down the front, the hair completely masks the entire face. I always wear my hair like that, especially when I drive. I usually have a passenger in the front seat who tells me if anything is in my way......!

BTW, my comment on the Short Hair board wasn't me hunting for personal compliments. I don't like vanity.

What I meant to convey was that a lot of the posts on the SHB are by guys who are very vocal in their adoration of women (generally) with short cuts.

Now, most of the adoration on the Heavenly Long Hair board , I note, comes from women drooling over long haired guys.
Check out our devotion to our Head-Man Dave, the drool-fest over Hugh Jackman that Jacqui initiated and the panting over long-haired rockers started off by princessmonica.

You know what. Enough. I shouldn't complain.

I love letting guys know how handsome they are, and positively re-inforcing their choice to grow long hair. They need it and deserve it seeing as how society generally is so unaccepting of their choice.

Forget what I said on the SHB. I take it back.
I would rather compliment than be complimented.


Hope y'all are having a great week-end.

XOXO

Edit: my spelling sucks these days.

Rod, Just as you say you have seen women and men wear their hair long out of laziness, I have seen people who wear their hair short for this same reason.

I can understand your responding defensively to another posters offensive comments, but I don't understand your decision to make sweeping assumptions about the people of this board.

Uzma and Kintaro - Love what you wrote! That was beautiful about shoving a persons foot in their mouths, can I use that? Lets come up with a T-Shirt for this passionate cult! Something with lots of hair and firearms!LOL kidding - I am wierd today.

Jacqui, Loyal Soldier to the Militant Band of
Grow- Long Guerrilas

Rod wrote: Uzma, ... You aren't taking any of this too seriously. You also recognize that you can be perceived as a being militant and cultish.

But if she isn't taking any of it seriously, wouldn't that discount the "militant" and "cultish" nature of what she wrote?

I see that Uzma is very dedicated to growing her hair long. It's a firm commitment to ignore the nay-sayers she's endured, not as some "go out and tell short-haired people they should grow their hair long" notion.

"Militant"... as in, "of the military"... and it's forced haircuts... hmm.. seems to be sort of a contradiction when used to describe growing long hair.

Rod wrote: Lastly, I believe I read in one of your posts that you were forced to have short hair by your ex-husband. Correct me if I'm wrong. After going through that, you should be militant about your hair. You should grow it if you choose to do so. If having short hair brings up painful memories, keep it long. But don't keep it long just to spite him. Do whatever you do for you.

It's a lot easier for someone to force a haircut on another (over whom they exert control) than it is to force someone to grow long hair.

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Dave, neither you nor I have talked to enough people for it be a statistically significant sample. We haven't spoken to people selected randomly by age, race, gender, and geography. We don't have a control group. I can say that women with long hair aren't picked on for having long hair. Some, not all, men may be, but there remain stigmas of men having long hair. I don't think there should be, but there are.

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I'll quote one your own, Hairalways about this

< posted on 3-Jul-2003 6:54:40 AM
Uzma - I have yet to find a "long hair" afficionado in person here where I live...I mean, I have friends who wear their hair long...a few inches past shoulder if that is considered long. But I think it is just the style they happen to be wearing now. They all blowdry and color it and don't really seem to have the same reverence we have for it.>>

Most people with long hair wear it that way because they think it's attractive, their significant other does, or any number of the other reasons I site. The people on this board are a small minority dedicated to your long hair. That's where I got "cult" from. In the dictionary "cult" is defined as 'a group bound together by devotion of the same thing, person, or ideal.

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From reading some of the posts in this thread, it doesn't. My opinion was discounted.

<<3katz wrote: "The poor misguided soul who wrote that has not had long hair">>

Sounds like she thinks I'm only entitled to my opinion if I've had long hair. Using that theory, we can't comment on George Bush until we've been President.

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Then you probably only pay attention to long hair. Lots of long-haired women are jealous of short hair. Some because they don't have the guts to cut it. Some because their hair would never look like that short. Jealousy results from a great haircut regardless of length, although everyone who comments negatively isn't jealous. Being in a creative field where people are constantly giving my work thumbs or down, I know those that knock it aren't jealous. They genuinely believe my work stinks.

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Then I'll keep wishing.

<<"Militant"... as in, "of the military"... and it's forced haircuts... hmm.. seems to be sort of a contradiction when used to describe growing long hair. >>

"Militant" as in "vigorously, active, aggressive or combative." The people on the long haired board can get quite vigorously combative about their long hair. You people do have a cultish militancy. Maybe you'll see where I'm coming from now that I've given the dictionary definitions.

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It's rare in the U.S. for a woman forced to cut her hair. It's well known that men prefer long hair. I've seen a number of times where boyfriends/husbands have suggested to girlfriends/wives that they grow their hair long. I've seen fights about haircuts. One friend of mine insists all his girlfriends grow their hair. He's not really controlling about it, just telling them what he likes. I've read accounts elsewhere in the Hair Talk website about husbands/boyfriends getting pissed or threatening stylists over haircuts.

You guys are devoted to your hair. To me, and perhaps to others, you come across with a 'cultish militancy.' Have fun with my perceptions, but don't dispute that's the image that I've gotten.

Rod wrote: Dave, neither you nor I have talked to enough people for it be a statistically significant sample. We haven't spoken to people selected randomly by age, race, gender, and geography. We don't have a control group.

Rod, you mentioned the similarity in attitudes of a group of girls who are friends. The "sample" I referred to includes women of all ages (teens to 60-something) and the results have been informally collected over the course of 30 years. I know a thing or two or five about random sampling and statistics... and from what I know of yours, it seems as though "my" sample is more representative of the populace than yours. That said, I realize it remains unproven, but it shows the extent of my conviction in my conclusion.

Rod wrote: I can say that women with long hair aren't picked on for having long hair.

Some, not all, women are "picked on" for having long hair... pressured to cut, from time to time. I know today many women for whom this applies.

Rod wrote: Some, not all, men may be, but there remain stigmas of men having long hair. I don't think there should be, but there are.

On this we agree.

Rod wrote: <> I'll quote one your own, Hairalways about this...

Rod, I'm not saying that most of women who have or are growing their hair long are intentionally doing so, just that there are many of them.

Rod wrote: Most people with long hair wear it that way because they think it's attractive, their significant other does, or any number of the other reasons I site.

Agreed.

Rod wrote: The people on this board are a small minority dedicated to your long hair. That's where I got "cult" from. In the dictionary "cult" is defined as 'a group bound together by devotion of the same thing, person, or ideal.

By the same description, those at the SH board are also "cultish." The description rubs both ways, Rod.

Rod wrote: <> From reading some of the posts in this thread, it doesn't. My opinion was discounted.

It should go without saying. Everybody will have their own opinon, and everybody is entitled to their own opinion. It's a truth. This isn't China or Cuba.

Rod wrote: <<3katz wrote: "The poor misguided soul who wrote that has not had long hair">> Sounds like she thinks I'm only entitled to my opinion if I've had long hair. Using that theory, we can't comment on George Bush until we've been President.

You took 3katz's quote out of context by omitting the last part of it: "... or else had some terrible experience with it." And she is just as entitled to her opinion as you are to yours.

Nobody except for GWB can comment on what it's like to be president. We can only comment on how we think he is doing as president, or what we think he thinks of it, etc. (your analogy is weak).

Rod wrote: <> Then you probably only pay attention to long hair. Lots of long-haired women are jealous of short hair. Some because they don't have the guts to cut it.

Really? I didn't know that. You know, that's the problem with some of those long-haired women, they just don't have enough CONFIDENCE in themselves to cut their hair short! That is why I love short-haired women -- because they have that confidence!

Yes, I am mocking you. Such a statement as that above is exactly of the same ilk which I see written in various short hair fora. It criticizes women for a perceived but non-existent "flaw" (the "flaw" being women's unwillingness to comply with such poster's preference for short-hair on women).

Rod wrote: Some because their hair would never look like that short.

Short hair can be forced to conform to certain shapes. Hairstylists have extensive experience in this ability.

Rod wrote: Jealousy results from a great haircut regardless of length,

In such a scenario, I don't understand the source of the jealousy. Why can't they just book an appointment with the same stylist and have it done? It seems terribly easy to do.

Rod wrote: although everyone who comments negatively isn't jealous.

Yes, some people are just mean. And others honestly intend to be "helpful," but I never perceive it that way. I've been on the receiving end of a lot of criticism, and I know of what I speak.

Rod wrote: Being in a creative field where people are constantly giving my work thumbs or down, I know those that knock it aren't jealous. They genuinely believe my work stinks.

That's different. The feedback is directly related to your being on the job. It's expected. But in social situations, especially when dealing with strangers, it is rude to tell someone you don't know that you don't like their hair.

Rod wrote: "Militant" as in "vigorously, active, aggressive or combative." The people on the long haired board can get quite vigorously combative about their long hair. You people do have a cultish militancy. Maybe you'll see where I'm coming from now that I've given the dictionary definitions.

Perhaps I am militant. Maybe it has something to do with constantly being told my hair is too long, or that it is out of style, or that I should cut it and sell it, or donate it. Honestly, how would you expect me to feel? Happy as a pig in mud because people tell me they hate my hair and think I should make it go away?

"Oh, I'm so happy because someone told me that I should cut my hair off and give it away."

"It really warms me inside when people tell me that my hair is out of style."

No, I don't think so. Uzi has also mentioned the pressure she's received from people she knows about growing her hair long. We are not the only two who find ourselves in this situation. I personally know many others in the same boat. Militant? Perhaps, but I feel my attitude is warranted.

Rod wrote: You guys are devoted to your hair. To me, and perhaps to others, you come across with a 'cultish militancy.' Have fun with my perceptions, but don't dispute that's the image that I've gotten.

Of course, you are entitled to your opinion. Although I do not feel that the participants of either this board or the SH board are "cultish," do know that according to the definition of "cultish" that you have so kindly provided, the SH board participants would by necessity be described in the same terms.