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Posted: July 04 2003 at 8:58pm
Love your manifesto, Uzma. And you are right, apparently manners had gone out of style for the woman who "offered" her opinion. At the moment, I was in too good a mood otherwise to respond in kind. Luckily for her.
Actually, from what I can tell, Florida isn't too bad on the long hair front, for women or men. Others who live here (or have visited) can confirm.
I see I've been nominated as militia leader. Let it be known that I do not support or sympathize with any terrorist organizations.
"We" might issue innumerable warnings due to inertia.
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Posted: July 04 2003 at 8:57pm
and in my case, zero. when people put their foot in their mouth, I shove it down their throat.
--- modus operandi of the Growth Guerilla assasination squad. Members : 1. Answers to DD, Uzi and to the delicious taste of Jolt Cola.
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Posted: July 04 2003 at 7:58pm
ave said: a woman actually told me that my hair was "out of date." Like I give a darn about conforming to what some stranger thinks is "in style."
Well Dave, the next time someone makes a statement like that, just inform them that it appears that good manners and good taste are also out-of-date and unstylish in certain sectors of society.
Also warn them that the Grow-long Guerillas will not tolerate any re-buff to their leader.
We only issue one warning due to our inertia......
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Posted: July 04 2003 at 7:53pm
Thanks for posting the link, Amanda.
So...gentlemen prefer long-haired brunettes... alright..Florida, here I come!!!!!
Kinda sucks on the long-haired guy front though. Huh, if they had used a pic of Dave PlaidPants the results would have been positive!!
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Posted: July 04 2003 at 7:35pm
Hi everyone!
SuperGrover, you are so funny!
Uzma, I love your re-wording of "Imagine." And I love the "labels" you propose.
Good for you, Kintaro.
Jean, the guy who wrote those comments has very short hair.
I did read those comments on the short hair board several days ago. I think he was irritated by the comments on their board by of one or more of "us."
Dare I bother to rebut his comments, if for nothing more than fun?
Cultish? No. On the contrary, we're generally the societal outcasts. If there's a "cult" of hair length in this society, it is more promoting of short hair than long, even though long hair (on women, anyway) is somewhat more popular these days than it has been in the recent past.
Militant? Perhaps... if only because our choice to have long hair is constantly under siege by members of the cult who demand we surrender our long hair. Every time I wear my hair loose I receive solicitations on behalf of loks uv luv. In recent years, when I've gone on job interviews, I've either been dismissed due simply to my hair (regardless of the impressive resume), or requested to cut my hair to improve my chances for landing a specific job. A couple of weeks ago a woman actually told me that my hair was "out of date." Like I give a darn about conforming to what some stranger thinks is "in style." At least in my encounters, I don't believe the motivation of these others is jealousy or hate. But I have heard numerous encounters of others who have valid reasons to believe their uncomplimentary encounters were based on jealousy.
Re: the "laziness" charge... having hair which can be easily "done" is not a bad thing. Those with short or long hair can be "lazy," if they so choose. A criticism that cuts across hair length, so to speak.
"Lack of imagination?" Ridiculous. In my life I've known about two women with short hair who enjoyed styling their hair in a variety of ways... and countless women with long hair who style their hair in a variety of ways.
On the list of factors that women use to choose their hair length, consideration for what men (most men, or specific types) might like or do like would not be surprising. So what? Women can choose their preferred hair length for any number of reasons. Who would presume to invalidate any of those reasons?
And along similar lines, it is also not the responsibility of women to style their hair to make it "look good" in the eyes of others. If/when women choose to make such efforts, that's great, but it's okay if they don't, too.
As my friend Jennifer Eve has said, "long hair enhances the gender of the wearer."
IMO, a woman is more confident in her femininity if she isn't afraid to embrace it.
"She can't hide behind her hair" ... huh? Yeah, those braids, buns and ponytails sure do hide the face... NOT! Duh!
And keeping women in "old-fashioned roles and expectations"... are "beauty" salons all across the land.
It's fair to say that I disagree with most everything quoted by that poster on the short hair board. Of course, should that come as a surprise to anyone here?
Today is Independence Day.... and, by extension, a day to celebrate independence from salons, and the dogma of the short-haired majority.
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Posted: July 04 2003 at 7:35pm
Hmmmm…the Grow-Long Guerillas need a Manifesto!!! Every militant group has one, I believe.
How about….
************************************************** We aim to do absolutely nothing[laziness]to prevent the manifestation of extremely[militancy]long hair.
We will “battle the rest of the world”[tick]against the evil of long-hair thievery and and anti-ponytailism[we need an -ism in there].
Hiding[tick]behind our extraordinarily long waterfalls of hair, we shall defend our femininity[tick]– to the last long-haired man among us.
Our poor imaginations[tick]will support our apathy in styling, treating or colouring our hair, and thereby keep it in a healthful state[had to get "“state"”in there].
Proudly, we preserve the old-fashioned[tick]and out-dated belief that “more is more” when it comes to long hair!! **************************************************
Well I'm a little on the "girly-girl" side of things myself, so I don't think long haired women have a monopoly on that-(and nothing wrong with being a girly-girl...... So I don't know much about cars, baseball and football, so what!)-
As far as the person who wrote that statement that Uzma quoted, I believe it was one of the guys on the Short Hair Board who just LOVES women with short hair!-(tee hee!).I think I know which guy it is.
You will have to excuse him, it is his love of short haired women that gives him such a peculiar view of long haired women!
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Posted: July 04 2003 at 6:22pm
I prefer the label *infidel* myself; I already know I'm paranoid ( and especially distrustful of stylists), vain, lazy and hopelessly out of touch! I can't say if my girly-girl self-image is impacted by the length of my hair one way or the other, so I'll have to think about that one. I wish cheap had been included to round out the list.
The poor misguided soul who wrote that has not had long hair, or else had some terrible experience with it, methinks.
You made my day, Uzma! That's too funny!
Jean
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Posted: July 04 2003 at 6:06pm
Above us only hair..... What????
I'll pass on that one Uzma, I like the nice blue sky like we had here in the midwest this beautiful summer day-(not too hot today, we went to a fourth of July parade and then had an afternoon picnic!)-
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Posted: July 04 2003 at 6:03pm
Even though I wear my hair short Uzma, I enjoy "getting it on" too much with long haired men and women to have any prejudice towards long haired people.
A sexy person is a sexy person, regardless of their hair length.
.....and I am a lovergirl not a fighter!!!
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Posted: July 04 2003 at 5:53pm
Hey Tina
Didn't that same great guy also write another song....I think it went something like this..but I'm not sure...
Imagine there's no hair-cuts It's easy if you try, No salon below us, Above us only hair, Imagine lengthy tresses growing longer every day...
Just havin' some fun, Tina .
(Hey!! Hope you're not a spy for the other camp!!! Kidding)
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Posted: July 04 2003 at 5:44pm
YOU SILLY PEOPLE, PLEASE!!!
I am a short haired woman who really likes many styles of long hair on men and women. Most of us over on the Short Hair board are VERY cool with long haired folks.
No Middle East conflicts, plesae, between the short hairs and long hairs.
A great man, a great musician and singer who was one of my mother's idols once said in a song, "All we are saying, is give peace a chance"!!!
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Posted: July 04 2003 at 4:58pm
Lets try these on for size…..
Un-cut Commandos
Grow-long Guerillas
Terminal Tigers
....armed with boar bristle brushes and crocodile clips ...
Yeah, it’s kinda cool to be cultish…hahahahaha.
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This picture fit the "Short VS Long stereotype they want to put us in. I kinda like this stereotype though.
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I must be lazy, I tend to not use hairbands (from Goody, so it's also in a way to try to boycott :P ) but bandannas to tie my hair back in a tail. And I'm starting to enjoying tying it much further from the head.
But if I get a gun, I'll take part in this war/militia/guerrilla unit they're portraying us to be.
My feminine side isn't talking to my masculine side anymore, they took part in a suicide pact. All I have left is me.
I hate all of the following and lots more : Fundamentalists, racists, sexists, fascists, ageists (people saying seniors = senile , kids = stupid , 18 = immature or a combo of them), and bigots for causes yet to receive their own designation.
Oh, I thought we were in a battle against the rest of the world. You mean we're not? I guess my cultish militant self will go put away the ammunition.
I would think of something else clever to say, but my inertia and lack of imagination are interfering.
I guess I'll just throw my hair into a ponytail and go take a nap.
"Hair is a part of you. It is not a part of me, because I am a frog." - Kermit the Frog on Sesame Street1b/N/ii ~ ??"/27"/32"
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Posted: July 04 2003 at 3:27pm
Hi Everyone
I was just over on the Short Hair board and guess what…they’re talking about us!!!
I was laughing so hard when I read the following comments that tears were falling onto my keyboard.
Have a read. I’d be interested to know what you think about this stuff……..
here's a certain cultish militancy on the Long Hair board. It's as if it's the people who post there in a battle against the rest of the world. The conspirators want to rob them of long hair and make them ugly because they're jealous and hateful.
With some long hair is about laziness. With long hair, a woman can just put her hair into a ponytail and go out for the day. She doesn’t have to think about styling it or spending the time to gel, blow dry, or get it just right.
Or the reason may be inertia and a lack of imagination. Or a belief that men won’t find them attractive with short hair. It isn’t patience and dedication with all women. I love long hair on women that take the time to style it and wear it down. I know quite a few who just tie it back in a ponytail. What’s the point of long hair if you don’t do anything to make it look good?
Long hair is perceived as more feminine, so a woman is perceived as more confident in her femininity if she’s willing to wear a less feminine haircut. She can’t hide behind her hair.
Long hair, to me, seems to symbolise keeping women in old-fashioned roles and expectations.
Now I have no intention of starting a long hair vs short hair debate – that would be totally pointless. But lets have some fun answering these comments.
Yours in cultish militancy, laziness, lack of imagination, feminine insecurity and old-fashionedness….
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