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    Posted: February 15 2001 at 10:39am
hi im dylan im 22 from maryland i have a huge problem my girlfriend of 4 years has very pretty long straight brown hair one length but i keep begging her to cut bangs and she swears she will in the summer i told her i want them cut razor sharp across and kinda short but not too short just maybe a little above the eyebrows
she has an eye ring and i think thatd be super sexy
anyway she does not know that i have a hair fetish and probably has no clue how this turns me on also i want to cut them and videotape it should i just tell her how i feel or what? when we have sex i picture her with the bangs
is this wrong? i think she is beautiful and i love her to death but the bangs make me in the mood more does anyone get what im saying??? i need advice and also maybe some fringe pics to give her an idea of what i want thanks--dyl
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2001 at 7:38pm
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well dylan its like this. while you may be dying to see your girlfriend in short bangs, she on the other hand may not be so sure about how she would look and if she would like it. you said she promised you that she would during summer. i myself am a girl, and when a girl says i will, and then give you a time a long ways away, it usually means she really doesnt want to and she is just biding herself time hoping that you will change your mind. that way if you change your mind on your own she doesnt have to feel bad for dissapointing you. another thing with her eyebrow, if she has bangs, it will mean she will have to brush closer to her eyebrow and the hair will be around that area so it ups her chances of getting it snagged on something like a brush. i know a lot of people who have had their eyebrow rings ripped out from snagging it on a brush and trust me, its not a pretty scar. when it comes down to it, if she really wants to get her bangs cut she will do it on her own. and if she does it on her own there will be a better chance of her liking it, and not just you liking it. cuz if she hates it and she feels that you forced her to, there are gonna be some hard feelings. just make sure she does it for the right reasons, after all, it is her hair. im only speaking from experiencing, b/c an ex of mine loved long hair. so i kept it long the whole time we were together, except a couple months before we broke up, i got it cut shorter then he wanted me to. and i loved it, he hated it. but when it was long, i hated it, and to me, since it was my hair, i felt he should have been happy that i was happier with it shorter.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2001 at 4:25pm
I absolutely agree with the first reply.
But I think you should also fill her in on your fetish. I think if she saw things from your sensual perspective rather than a "he doesn`t like the way I look and wants me to look like someone else" perspective, she might be more likely to agree. But don`t pressure her into things. Just tell her your feelings. Who knows.. maybe she`ll try it out as a birthday gift to you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2001 at 9:51pm
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I am curious Dylan. YOu say that cutting bangs would turn you on. Okay cutting bangs only takes a few seconds and you would have to wait for months for the next chance in being turned on. Yes? NO?
Seems to me that it is a very short lived turn on thing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2001 at 6:53pm
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Ah, Diane, you don`t understand - fulfilling a fetish, even if it lasts a few minutes or a few hours (or even stretched out for a few days) can last a person for a very long time.

I`ve seen your postings on a number of boards. I realize you are very anti-fetish, and anti-cutting. Have you tried to understand how mutually consenting "play" (and it _is_ "play") can satisfy both partners and bring them even closer?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2001 at 12:00am
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Well that is a good one Biff because I only post on the hair boutique.
YOu are communicating with someone that works in the medical field and recognize how serious a fetish can be and harmful it can be to the person themselves, relatives and the community but you wouldn`t understand.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2001 at 12:45pm
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You used to post on TLHS, long ago. You`ve posted on Hair Boutique for years. I`ve followed this board for a long time, too.
Yes, a fetish out of control can be bad. _Anything_ out of control can be bad. I do understand.
But you haven`t tried to understand the other perspective.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2001 at 10:25pm
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It is one thing when two people involved think it is okay to do something and noone feels obligated that they have to pleased the other but it is another thing when one person feels betrayed by the other person actions or feels trap and has no way out or wakes up one morning to find something terrible done to them because of a fetish. We rarely ever hear of the first choice that both parties are okay with everything but it seems to me that we have often heard of victims and only one person enjoying what they did.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2001 at 10:42pm
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But you haven`t tried to understand the other perspective.

Dear Biff:

It actual truft is I do have lots of empathy for a person that has a fetish. LIke I said I studied the mental disease in my medical class.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 18 2001 at 11:26am
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"...the mental disease..."? *sheesh*

I`ve heard far more reports of women having stylists cutting off their own hair in order to punish their men. Have you studied _that_ mental disease?
Does the irrational fear of having one`s hair cut qualify as a mental disease?

I think the odds of a person being murdered, raped, robbed, subjected to road rage are far greater than running into one of the very few people who cannot maintain control for their passion for hair. Perhaps you should devote your medical expertise to curing _those_ mental diseases.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 18 2001 at 2:50pm
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* I`ve heard far more reports of women having stylists cutting off their own hair in order to punish their men.

What does that have to do with a fetish?

Does the irrational fear of having one`s hair cut qualify as a mental disease?

That is a real phobia and I also came across a stylist that quit being a stylist because of the fear of cutting other people hair. She couldn`t handle the touch of hair. A lot of us would like to know how she even pass her stylist test.

I don`t have to devote anything. We can always leave it as you said that I am anti fetish. NExt time you can always ask your doctor and you might come back and say sorry to me when you realize that I was correct. Heh I didn`t make up the rules what is a disease okay. WAs just trying to help you.

A fetish is something that takes conplete control over someone and that person cannot function without that object. It ruins other people lives.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 18 2001 at 5:38pm
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As Diane says, the need for mutual consent in these situations is paramount, otherwise people are going to get hurt. Now going back to the original post, I get the feeling that Dylan`s girlfriend doesn`t really want her bangs cutting off, it is just Dylan`s little fantasy. But here are people going on about the "fun" (?) side - I ask you, if it`s one-sided where is the fun in that?
My view on hair fetishists is this: It is OK to look at a picture in a magazine or in cyberspace and fantsize to yourself. It is not OK to involve other people who don`t want to be involved. That does indeed indicate a mental disorder, and that way lies ruin for all concerned.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 18 2001 at 6:06pm
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It wasn`t _Diane_ that commented on "mutually consenting," it was me.

Diane seems to think that a fetish is something that cannot be controlled, or in any way channeled into something positive, fun or consentual. I disagree.
She seems to also thing that a fetish implies mental "disease," but that a phobia does not. I disagree.
She seems to think that if one person has a fetish, the other person is immediately at risk (and would never be mutually consenting to anything that had the word `fetish` attached to it.) I disagree.
She says she has "empathy" towards the fetishist. I disagree.

If Dylan`s girlfriend isn`t into it, he shouldn`t push it. If he explained things as Van had suggested, she might change her mind. She might not.

Mutual consent has always been the fundamental concern of every act of intimacy that I`ve ever had, regardless of whether it`s a kiss, a backrub, sex or clipping a lock of hair.
And I would never counsel anyone to act outside of mutual consent.
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i think both of you need to grow up, the matter at hand is cutting bangs, not rape, murder, or a mental disease.SHEESH!!!!! i do agree with Biff, about fullfilling a fetish, it can last for a long time no matter what it is, as well as satisfy both partners and bring them very close. some people just can not understand unless they go through it!! but i think both of you are dragging it out as if it is a true mental disease, HELLO, cutting hair!!!!!!maybe one of you are like some of those people that are so into themselves and their hair that they truely have a mentle disease. but im not and the majority of normal people are not!!!!! i think you both need to grow up just alittle bit!!!!!!
nothin but love
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 18 2001 at 11:36pm
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I totally agree with you Phil. If Dylan`s girlfriend really wanted to have bangs she would have decided that a long time ago and she wouldn`t need to be asked.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2001 at 10:41am
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Thanks, Babybear, for the agreement.
I was trying to explain what you just said - that it really isn`t such a big deal, that it ISN`T a mental disease. Maybe I should just let it go. Diane has her firm, fixed opinion, and I have mine, equally firm and fixed.

But I disagree with her assessment that Dylan`s girlfriend "would have decided a long time ago." That implies that a woman never changes her mind about her hairstyle and how she looks. I think we all realize that`s absurd. A single hairstyle may work for a number of women throughout their lives, but some women choose to change for any number of reasons, personal growth not the least among them.
There are no absolutes.

As for "wouldn`t need to be asked" - if a person doesn`t ask, the person doesn`t get. Who knows, maybe she appreciates the interest being shown. Maybe she appreciates the attempt at intimacey, if not the format. A haircut is not the end of the world.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2001 at 10:57am
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Biff:

The simple fact that Dylan has to keep begging means she doesn`t want it! Plain and simple. How many languages does one has to say it heh? I don`t have a fix opinion but just the medical fact of mental disorders but remember this you came after me eventhough you claim you are such an expert on what i think. lol No problem. Lets drop it but we can always start a discussion under the politics about forcing haircuts on other people etc. How many people who have hairfetishes have openly admitted on the internet that they don`t care about the other person? Tons. Look around.

You say a haircut is not the end of the world. There is a perfect example. I don`t beleive that people should be force into something they don`t want to do and that often happens and that is where you catch my firm opinion. NOone should be forced. His girlfriend been firmed about it. Many people have been victims of a hairfetish.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2001 at 11:09am
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Do you understand Biff?
If you feel so strongly that I need to have a different view point on this fetish thing please start a thread on the politics about the real facts of hairfetishes and it has affected people or not in some cases and lets have a intelligent discussion about it. I would appreciate that you would stop pissy footing around the pot when the question was never address to you personally. Yes I am challenging you to have your moment.
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Fetishism IS a medical (psychological) disease.

But I wouldn`t agree right away that it will end up "leading to ruin". Homosexuality is another "disease" so proclaimed by the medical and psychological community alike, which has been re-evaluated lately. You will see people still proclaiming homosexuality as a disease, and in some ways, it could be characterized as genetic "defect" (an inate aspect of a person that makes them "abnormal"). Now before anyone complains, please note the quotation marks. Blue eyes are "abnormal" too, in certain regions, so I`m not trying to insult here.

The important defining characteristic of both of these "diseases" is the issue of consensus (something which has been brought up by *all* posters on this topic). If a man and another man want to have sexual relations, then who is to deny them that? (religious/moral issues aside) Actually.. even bringing up the religious issues.. Catholic priests have been known to have homosexual relations with one another, in order to satiate their "mortal sin" in the desire for a woman.

Now, if someone has a hair fetish, and is thus afflicted by this "disease" he is still not destined to ruin. By talking about his desires, watching videos, reading stories, or even enacting events with consenting adults, he is maintaining a healthy balance with his sexuality. Just as you wouldn`t tell a homosexual person to "forget about your obsession and behave `normally` " by sleeping with women, you should not say the same thing to a fetishist. Presuming they are not infringing on the rights of others, merely admiring a woman`s hair and fantasizing about cutting it, they are maintaining a healthy relationship with hair. A fetishist who was to deny this instinct would have a tense, uncomfortable relationship with sex in general, which in the end *could* "lead to ruin".

Thus the important thing to do is to know your boundaries, and respect the rights and opinions of others. Discuss your desire with your mate, and let her know you would enjoy giving her a haircut, but if she lets you give her a haircut, make sure it`s something she really wants to do, not just something she`s doing to please you, or stop you from bugging her.

And in the end.. there`s always videos. :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2001 at 6:15pm
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And how many times do I have to reiterate that it MUST be consensual.

The question was thrown out to the board, so, technically, the question was never addressed to YOU "personally," either.

I have been attempting an intelligent discussion, but you seem to be fixated on "disease." Did you answer whether phobias are diseases, too? Do you believe homosexuality is a disease? Everyone has a fixation, everyone has an obsession, everyone has an orientation.
It comes down to self-control. A person with a hair fetish isn`t a threat to society just because of his or her fixation. It`s the actions the individual undertakes.

If you want to take that tact that having a fixation is a disease, then we`re all diseased.

btw - just what medical training do you have? Do you have a medical license? Are you a practicing physician or psychologist? What is your board certification number?
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