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    Posted: December 02 2003 at 10:29am
A Cautionary True Story......

I was on the upper deck of a bus this morning, going into town. On London buses you sit in rows behind each other on the top deck.

Anyway, the bus was moving along and I was thinking about some work issues I had to deal with today.
Suddenly, the driver braked hard and we were thrown forward. I felt an enormous yank at the back of my head and then a release.

One of the girls sitting in the seats behind me had been touching my hair! I say "touching" but she must have been gripping it for it to pull so harshly when the driver braked.

I was really annoyed (and a little shocked and upset) and told her so in no uncertain terms.
She just gave me attitude.
I took the precaution of changing seats and tying my hair up for the rest of the journey.

Why do people think they can touch complete strangers in this way? It's both an invasion of privacy and ....well...in a way bodily harm if it results in pain as it did for me.

Next time I'll sit where there is noone behind me.
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I can't believe that she actually thought that that was okay! I mean, it's one thing to touch a friend, but this was a total stranger. That's not cool. Even when acquaintances invade my personal space, it bugs me. My hair is wavy, and I grew up on the east coast, so the humidity there makes it full-on curly. Well, one day in 8th grade, I'm sitting at a computer in science lab, typing something up for my group, when I feel something going on around my shoulders. The girl behind me had been pulling at the curls and watching them spring back up! She then said something like "Your hair is so curly and pretty!", so I let her slide with just a stern look. More recently, on my third day at a new job, one of my coworkers had to get my attention, so she poked me in the ribs! If you must get my attention, tap me on the shoulder or just say my name. But the rib/abdomen area is just not where you touch someone whom you barely know. Again, I'm pretty touchy-feely with close friends, but with strangers and acquaintances, there are definite limits. I'm sorry that this girl on the bus seems to be quite unaware of those limits.
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Hi Grace

I heard a real horror story recently, where a woman in the U.S was in a cinema watching a film and some teenagers cut off her long hair.

She was really distressed as you can imagine.

That is a nightmare and has meant that the only place I'll sit in cinemas is the back row.

Thanks for sharing your experiences - I agree, it is really out of order for strangers to touch you anywhere on the body....unless it's to shake hands by way of introduction, of course.
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Quote heard a real horror story recently, where a woman in the U.S was in a cinema watching a film and some teenagers cut off her long hair.


How horrible! When my hair gets really long, I'm going to be extra careful. I would hate to have to worry about someone pulling or cutting my hair...or even sticking gum in it.
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Maybe she merely fell foward and pinned your hair between her and the seat back.. thus her attitude.
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I wish that had been the case, Hal.

Her exact words back to me were "So what B***h? What are you going to do about it?"



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hmmm Uzi,
Sorry to hear about your unfortunate mishap this am!

Often when I go out to public places, I'll put my hair in a bun-like shape, and secure it with a hair scrunchi. Its out of the way, and hands off to everyone else!
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I've just realized this issue on busses, too. One time, my hair kept getting yanked by the person behind me because his book would hit my hair and then the back of the seat. I definitely have to be aware and tie my hair up or back (and then move it over my shoulders).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DaveDecker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2003 at 10:07pm
Ouch! Sorry to hear about this mishap, Uzi. Some people just aren't considerate...

Sorry to hear you've had similar problems too, papillon_purple and Grace

I've never found myself in such a situation... and I don't relish the thought of the first time it happens, if ever.
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Uzi,

How long is your hair again? Is their a back to your seat? Was your hair drapping over the chair or something? Im trying to picture how the girl behind you had gotten ahold of a large portion of your hair. When Im sitting at a theater for example i wont drap my hair over the back of the chair. Id rather sit on it or have it pressesed between me and the chair but if no one is behind me I prefer to let my hair drap over the back of chairs so that Im not causeing un due breakage by pressing it up against anything or sitting on it.

Are you sure she was gripping it and your hair didnt get caught in the corner of a seat cusion or something (I mean did she deny it or did she just give you additude implying that she should be able to touch your hair). I really dont understand these people who can just touch other people like that with no sence of respect.
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I'm sorry for what happened to you, Uzi. That is very disturbing - especially because she did not apologize - but instead got nasty with you. When people act like that it really burns me up.

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Hi Erinlynn

The hair at the back of my head is at my bra-strap (God it feels sooo good to finally say that), and I wore it loose yesterday. I hadn’t deliberately draped it over the back of the seat, but my hair is thick and kinda wild so it gets all over the place and I keep bringing it forward onto my chest when walking around.
She was definitely gripping some of it and the fact that she released it after the bus jerked suggested that she had it twisted around her fingers or something.


Laine, p_p, Dave and Caramia

Thanks for your support….I’m still burning up!!

I had my anger button pushed a second time yesterday when I mentioned the incidence to some folks at work and one person said I “had it coming by wearing it loose”! Apparently it’s my fault for inviting people to touch my hair by not wearing it bound up.

Wasn’t a similar argument used in the past to say that women who dressed in a revealing manner “deserved” to get raped?
Anyway, I’m winding myself up again…..you can imagine how that conversation at work developed
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Quote had my anger button pushed a second time yesterday when I mentioned the incidence to some folks at work and one person said I “had it coming by wearing it loose”! Apparently it’s my fault for inviting people to touch my hair by not wearing it bound up.


That was a stupid thing that person to say. No one has a right to touch you or anything of yours. It doesn't matter if it's your hair, hands, purse... That would have ticked me off, too.
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I once had a girl in a cinema put up her feet on my hair, I was letting it fall down the back of my seat. Not very pleasant. But she was as embarrassed as I was.

And I once sat on a bus with a very big haired woman in front of me, and since the seats were so close together, I actually felt that her hair was invading my space. I would not have been able to read a magazine or a book without getting her hair tangled up in it. So it goes the other way round as well, I guess. I mean, how much fun is it to get a big hat in your face when you´re watching a stage? Maybe we need to think about where we put our hair, sometimes. Not that that´s an excuse for anyone to touch us or make comments about us!
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Originally posted by uzma uzma wrote:

I had my anger button pushed a second time yesterday when I mentioned the incidence to some folks at work and one person said I “had it coming by wearing it loose”! Apparently it’s my fault for inviting people to touch my hair by not wearing it bound up.

Wasn’t a similar argument used in the past to say that women who dressed in a revealing manner “deserved” to get raped?
Anyway, I’m winding myself up again…..you can imagine how that conversation at work developed
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Uzi,

It's called "blaming the victim"... perpetrated by those who refuse to accept responsibility for their own actions.

So many unsupportive people in your r-l

((( Uzi )))

Congrats on reaching the BSL milestone, though!
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Hugs back, Dave .

I wonder if my hair will ever make it to my knees?

Long Hair Forever!!!

(just felt like saying that really loudly)
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Ive by mistake hit someone with my hair before when it was in a long braid. I was also always very careful when i was in school not to let my hair go all over the desk behind me. I usued to sit behind a girl with wild but pretty black hair who every five minutes would flick her hair back and toss her head. her hair would go all over my desk where i was writing. Shed usualy pull it in font of her after a little while then five minutes later flick it back again. I had to say something but it didnt stop. I think I solved things by making sure my desk was far enough away from her chair in the row before we all sat down. That way her hair didnt fall on the desk at all.

Anyways i never wanted to be like her but im sure my hair has been in the way before. I try to be good!
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I can't believe someone had the nerve to touch your hair like that, how infuriating! Although it is something of a compliment...it was so pretty that she obviously couldn't help herself!

I haven't taken the bus in a long time, but when I did, now that I think of it people were always pulling my hair by accident--either by grabbing the rail on the back of my seat (flyaways would always get under the hand somehow) or by sitting next to me in horizontal seating, hairs would just somehow get wedged behind a shoulder or arm. My hair does tend to go off on it's own, but most of the time when this would happen the person would apologize and I'd smile or say "that's ok" or some such thing. Usually it was my hair's fault. But I never had someone touch it intentionally! In NYC that could get someone a punch in the face, or worse! Most people in the city are smart enough to keep to themselves. I would imagine it's the same in London?
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Viktoria, Erinlynn and Elissa

Thank you for making me realise that I have to be more aware of where my hair is and if it is getting in other peoples way.

I will take better care in future (not that I'm a hair flicker at all).

This is, I suppose, part of the lessons one learns as someone who is experiencing longer hair for the first time in her life.
Just today, I learned that one has to be careful of car door hinges which can catch your loose hair.

To all those who have "arrived" i.e have long hair, please share your wisdom with those of us who are following in your footsteps.

Many thanks and many more blessings,
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P.S. Elissa - thanks for the compliment.

I don't think my hair is pretty as such, but it is unusual or so I've been told.
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