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    Posted: December 19 2018 at 12:43pm
As a guy, I love getting my hair set in rollers and getting perms and color/highlights.  My wife loves my hair with curls and encourages me to keep it curly.
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I've set my own hair many times over the years, but never had it done at a salon. I rarely do these days, but when I do it usually looks so good I wonder why I don't more often. Society at large has gotten away from formality in many ways and hair setting is one of those rituals that fit into the formal look more. Usually when I say something is out of fashion it's back in a year or two, though, so I wouldn't be surprised if hairsetting returns to popularity at some point.
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My husband & I go every week......we have seen two other men get wet sets in the 6+ years we have been going. Our hairdresser though said that there were about 3-4 other men that come to get weekly sets also.
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So I just found this forum and was wondering how many of you have actually seen men getting wet sets at the salons you go to or work at.
My second question is do women actually have their hair set at the salons still. 

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Not worried about whether Jennifer sees my post, just wanted to respond so others could see that other men get their hair set. We still have a number of beauty parlors in our area that do wash & sets. True they are not as popular as they once were, however, there still are quite a few around.
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That's an entertaining story, though I'm not sure Jennifer will see it some five years after the previous posts. I have to wonder what salon you're going to. Roller sets and teasing aren't quite as common as they were a few decades ago.
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Jennifer, I totally appreciate your response. I thought exactly like you when I was in my earlier days (I'm in my late 50's now). My husband (28 years married) was never into anything feminine. I unwittingly brought him into that world. After he retired, I said to him "I would love to see you with longer hair!" (He has great curly hair). He let his hair grow out about 6-8", and I loved it. He does not like his curly hair because it gets frizzy. My hairdresser at the beauty parlor suggested he get it set on large curlers and it would straighten it, and also get out the frizz. I took him one morning, and he had it done. I thought he looked absolutely adorable in curlers, and sitting under a hair dryer! I think any women would think that if they saw their husband in such a feminine way. My hair dresser was right! It straightened his hair nicely and left no frizz like blow drying. My husband loved the outcome! From that point on he decided to go with me every week to get rollersets. After a few months, he said he had something to tell me. He told me that when he gets his hair set, it makes him feel feminine, and he likes it. I did not have a problem with that. He then went on to say that he wanted to try some of the women's styles that he saw being done to the ladies while he was sitting under the dryer for the past three months. I was a little surprised to say the least, but I said "sure, if that's something you would like to try. The next week we went to the beauty parlor, he told our hairdresser that he wanted to try having it teased and combed out into a woman's hairdo. Well, he did, and it was really weird seeing him in a woman's hairdo, but he liked it. I love my husband dearly, and it was not a "gay/straight" thing. He liked feeling femme. He said going to the beauty parlor getting sets made him feel femme, and he liked it. I was the one who introduced him to this, so I could not really blame him. Anyhow, we have been going to the beauty parlor together now for 6 years, and he wears his hair like a woman most of the time, and has even gotten updos,fake long nails, and wears the cute pink lace comb-out capes, and a scarf to protect his hair......our marriage has never been stronger. The ladies at the beauty parlor love him!
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Just because a guy takes pride in his appearance, it
doesn't automatically mean he paints his nails and
wears dresses you know, heaven knows I dont but I
have been known to participate in the odd roller set,
it started as a payback for being smart to a senior
hairdresser when I was a 17 year old apprentce.
Initially I protested strongly, however I later gave
in, after all the apprentice must abide by a seniors
instructions, so what the hell...
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Just because a guy takes pride in his appearance, it
doesn't automatically mean he paints his nails and
wears dresses you know, heaven knows I dont but I
have been known to participate in the odd roller set,
it started as a payback for being smart to a senior
hairdresser when I was a 17 year old apprentce.
Initially I protested strongly, however I later gave
in, after all the apprentice must abide by a seniors
instructions, so what the hell...
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I believ in most crossdressers cases, it's the thrill of the experience, the so called forbidden fruit. The jealousy and waiting all those early years coming to a head and finnally being treated as a lady like they've always desired, it's possible that maybe some cannot get the girl of their dreams so they become her, sounds like fun regardless
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Why do you asume that if a guy is into roller sets he is naturally into cross dressing and make up, this may be so in most cases but there are some guys out there like me who just like to take pride in there appearance and will go to whatever lengths to do so.
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Hey, Daddy-O.

I agree that men are entitled to do anything they like to their hair. But I think this thread is about impressions. A roller set on a men is highly unusual and--dare I say it?--effeminate.

What if I walked into barber shop and asked for a warm lather and a nice, close shave? I think I should get what I ask for (and pay for), but don't you think that's a little weird?

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Since you like to primp and preen, do you like to wear mascara or lipstick to help bring out your natural features? Do you like to shave your underarms and legs? Do you like to wear high heels and nylons?

And, do you like to wear rollers in your hair because of the way it makes you look or the way it makes you feel?

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Perms can be tough on your hair, so guys get their hair set, either in a salon or elsewhere, as a healthy way to fulfill their naturally human desire to preen and groom ourselves so we look our best. Problem is, as others have noted we have tremendous societal pressure to restrict guys from enjoyinging the pleasures of pampering themselves, while women are thought odd if they don't.
In my club there are two guys now who set their hair with rollers. One is an older, burly athletic guy who nobody could call feminin. He's 6' or more, very fit, broad shouldered, and pretty hairy. He's got a full nicely groomed beard and salt and pepper colored hair that is naturally wavy. Every Monday morning he comes into the club with a head full of rollers his wife has set the night before. He'll wear a knit hat or a shower cap, play a game of raquetball, round the track a couple of times and then join a few of us in the saunas, setting his curls first in the steam than the dry sauna. His secretary takes them out when he gets into his office and catches up on his e-mail and voice mail.
The other guy is a younger guy growing his hair out and inspired by Tony (the guy above. He' taken to a similar regimen. I don't tink any of us think a healty interest in their personal grooming and a ppearance. Sounds like somr thing the modern, affluent American male should be entitled to.
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Dave,

I realize this is geography/culture-dependent to an extent, but I really believe the "short-hair norm" for men is dissolving. Around here, no one would look twice at you, unless it was to cast an admiring or speculative glance.

I think rollers are a separate situation. Hell, getting your hair set in rollers at a salon practically /is/ history, unless you're a little, old lady. (I don't think this guy is talking about a perm; he's talking about a "set.")

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Hi Dave,

>>Would you agree, then, with this idea's corollary that "just because something works or is accepted now doesn't necessarily mean that it will be appropriate in the future?"

Oh, absolutely! Who knows -- maybe one day the mainstream will be that men have rear end-length hair and women will wear buzzcuts! I rather doubt it, but one never knows....!

>>Some people seek to pressure me (and others, both men and women) to conform to society's short-hair norm. To me, it's that pressure which "doesn't work" and is inappropriate

Actually, I very much agree with you. I certainly have my own preferences, but I do not feel it appropriate that others actually pressure you to cut your hair. Although I won't hide my preference for short hair on men, I hope you don't feel like I am in any way "pressuring" you to conform to my own personal tastes.

However, right or wrong, anyone who falls terribly out of the mainstream will always draw attention to himself. If I see someone wear 4-5" purple or green spikes, a huge dog collar, and the body enveloped by leather and chains, it's merely a subconscious reaction to take a double look. For a person who is extraordinarily thin or extraordinarily fat, the same thing happens. I think it's wrong to express a negative opinion to the person but the eye is naturally drawn to that which is different. But looking is different from staring! Like it or not, long hair on a man (the longer the hair the more this is true) is fairly non-mainstream today.

BTW, I think it's also important to point out that just because someone's views of hair are mainstream doesn't mean that the reason is to "follow" the crowd. Even if long hair were the norm for men, I'd still prefer short hair on men! Conversely, sometimes a person who falls outside the norm is there *only* out of rebellion for the norm, and sometimes it's just because those are his true feelings. And I'm not at all "against" long hair on men. It is a simple matter of preference. That's all!

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"Changes aren't permanent, but change is" -- Geddy Lee

Jennifer,

Things will not stay as they are now. Changes happen because there are underlying forces within people (within this society) to change.

You say, "Just because something worked or was accepted at one time in history doesn't necessarily mean it's appropriate now." Would you agree, then, with this idea's corollary that "just because something works or is accepted now doesn't necessarily mean that it will be appropriate in the future?"

The only difference between your statement and its corollary is the referenced point in time, but as history is a continuum, the difference is meaningless.

Some people seek to pressure me (and others, both men and women) to conform to society's short-hair norm. To me, it's that pressure which "doesn't work" and is inappropriate.

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And I think it's very important to understand that an opinion is not a condemnation. Although you and I don't find a man in rollers very appealing (!), I don't think either one of us wants it banned! Much of opinion about hair is cultural, which is why I wonder why a man would like to do something that is culturally known as feminine.

The head is a very sensual part of our bodies, and I personally love my hair being brushed or having my husband run his fingers through my hair, so I can certainly understand why anyone, male or female, would find that appealing! But, in my opinion only, it just seems odd that a man would specifically enjoy getting his hair set with rollers.

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I think history can explain much of what happened at that time of life, and we can always learn from history! But I also think it's important to realize that as time has evolved, things change. Some things will stay the same, and some things will change. But just because something worked or was accepted at one time in history doesn't necessarily mean it's appropriate now.

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Jennifer, I'm with you. I like men to be strong, protective, and /masculine/. Long hair can be part of this look, but rollers just smack of cross-dressing.

There's nothing /wrong/ with a man using rollers in his hair (or cross dressing, for that matter!), but I think it's offputting to most women. I couldn't take someone seriously as a lover if I knew he did that.

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