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    Posted: June 11 2003 at 6:51pm
HELP!!!!!!! Im a guy, 13 years old and i have hair almost to my shoulders. i want to grow it long, but it looks terrible in a pony tail and terible with out . I want to find a hair style that looks cool and doesnt include cutting it. i would really appreciate it if someone could give me some advice.THANKS!!!!!
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Yuck no offense but I think long hair is acky on a guy...I say CUT IT!
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Boy, that is a tough one. It looks bad in a ponytail and it looks bad out. I don't see many options here.
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Seek advice from people long-hair friendly. They might be able to give real advice.


As for the previous 2 posters, the first one especially, READ HIS (6th letter exp.) POST. He asked for advice without cutting it. We really don't need bigots like Amber posting advice (telling someone they're ugly, regardless of phrasing, is an insult, not advice), and logic abusers who use the "well, if you say A is not possible, and B is not possible, *cough* C must be left."

For these 2 posters, I'm ashamed I had to waste my time reading such bland and useless crap. You cost me 2 kilobytes too many.

As for the O.P. , you may wish to try the Long Hair Support sub-form. Gratuitous attacks and/or useless advice don't have a place there. Since we do not know you or have a way to feel your hair, a photo would be nice though if you can arrange it.


EDIT NOTE : He has a reason for mentionning not cutting it. It can be personal preference, or heck, he may have converted to Sikhism. Regardless, your judgemental biases have no place in a thread that requests help. Thank you, have a nice life despite this obvious flop.
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Also note Amber's irony. She has a similar problem, and also utters the "i don't want to cut it line"

So that leads us to, with simple reasoning, this:

--- Her opinion is 99.4 % sexist.
--- Her opiinion, if part of the 0.6 % remaining, isn't worth squat until she follows up on this "advice" she so *kindly* gave to others.


If I hate anything more than religious nuts, it's sexists. 85 % opf people have a religion, while 100 % of people have a gender. (And in some rare cases, 2.)
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lol sorry it I seemed "sexist" but its MY opinion and I'm sticking to it. I dont think guys with long hair look ugly, I just think they look better with shorter hair. Honestly your opinion is just as important as mine, whether the opinions differ. He asked for advice and I gave some. You didnt even bother so shut it. Also concerning my board, I look better with long hair then I do with short so obviously I shouldnt cut it.
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I gave advice by redirecting him to somewhere where he is likely to get more help by people millions of times more knowledgeable than me.

You gave your opinion which can be fairly paraphrased as "Yuck, cut it!" --- That's your opinion, sure, but that sure as (6th) wasn't advice !

He asked for advice like you did in your own thread, and all you offer is destructive criticism.

I hope the O.P. gets the help he wishes in the Long Hair Supprt , heck, I hope you get the help you wanted because when someone is in need, people should try, but you sure as heck don't deserve it. And me saying you're sexist isn't just opinion: once you provide 2 messages with purely diametrically opposed viewpoints and can be shown that one discriminating factor is the cause for it, it's fact.

You're entitled to have an opinion. You're also allowed to have all the biases in the world, but when you make them public, they'Re fair game for criticism. And just because it's your opinion, doesn't make it right. I could mention events in history where such though is demonstrated, but it doesn't belong on a hair board. There's private board mail if you wish to carry this on further. I feel justified starting this conversation in full view of everybody because this (your post, and justification for making it) is a type of attitude that deserves to be publicly denounced, but if whining is to ensue from it, please do so privately. My box is waiting if that is your desire.



EDIT : And "No offense but..." bashing is never advice regardless of how you look at it.
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haha think what you want, but you're the one in the wrong here. Theres no whining to be done by me or by anyone. My opinion is neither right nor wrong. It just is. Lol but if you must overreact over it so please do. I don't care what you say, it does not affect me. Also, I do not care whether this is public or private because my opinion is MY opinion. Thats THAT

P.S If being sexist means that I, myself, prefer guys with short hair well then so be it. I do not think guys with long hair are ugly, I just would never check a guy out that had long hair. If those are sexist remarks then
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I don't care what your date preference is (and if you're a nympho, there are forums for that).

The point is you blurted one of your opinions "I like guys with short hair" and you try to pass "Yuck, cut it !" as advice based on that.

The guy asked for advice. And you didn't provide any advice related to his dilemma under the choices and stipulations he made clear.

The point is, are you stupid or something ? He asks for help, you insult him, or at least mock the fact that he's a guy and has long hair, someone points out that you were blatantly insulting, and now you're trying to defend it on the fact that you're allowed an opinion, you can blurt it out where you feel like, and through circular logic, you're trying to make your opinion valid just on that, because it's an opinion. That's called a baseless opinion, a strawman. And you trying to use it as a reason to be a bigot. It works against people who bend over easily, maybe this poster (I said MAYBE) would bend in to your destructive criticism, but someone like me who sees through the bullcrap, it won't work, and others seeing it would be inspired by it.

No amount of reasoning and rational address will work trying to have you understand what you said wasn't advice, that it didn't deserve to be posted. It's as simple as this.


It looks like you're seeking advice, even under a timeframe. How about you use that everso important urgent timeframe SEEKING advice, good advice hopefully, instead of passing this bullcrap you posted as GIVING advice. Besides, it'S not like you'Re going to date this guy, so your sexual preference has no point in this thread anyway. Go seek out short-haired people instead of trying to bash the long and pass it off as a good-willed favor. You make me sick. (Not because you have an opinion, because you think it shields you from criticism and SIMULTANEOUSLY allow you to snipe at others under this "veil" of invulnerability.)
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He asked for advice and my PERSONAL advice is to cut it. If it obviously does not look good in or out of a ponytail then what else is there to do?? Cutting it would be the best solution and if that doesn't work then theres always that option of growing it back out and TRYING to go from there. Every one of my many friends (male and female) agree that long hair on a guy that doesn't look good in or out of a ponytail should be cut and restyled. Theres really no other choice. For you to say I'm a bigot is stupid. I do not personally know this guy but from my own experience, cutting it is the best option. No one says he has to or does not have to take my advice. Its MY advice, MY opinion and theres NO saying whether its right or wrong. Proving an opinion is impossible.

P.S. Even loveshort&blonde sees that there is very little to do to help. Cutting it is BEST!!
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Wading through the mud here... may I add a few comments?

Amber is certainly entitled to her opinion. I would never try to change it. (BTW you can see a picture of me here at http://www.hairboutique.com/tips/tip033.htm ). But her response isn't helpful to "cheeseburger," so I do wonder why it was posted.

loveshort&blonde provided a humorous response . However if I re-read cheeseburger's post, I believe he means that "without" means "loose." So he appears to be looking for some other way to wear his hair besides loose or ponytail.

One look I like on myself combines these two looks (pulling top section only into a ponytail), but what are the chances that cheeseburger would like that? I say it's worth a try.

I've seen guys wear french braids, and also buns low at the nape.

Just experiment and see if you find something you like.

Hope this helps.
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