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    Posted: July 23 2002 at 11:44pm
i`ve always wondered how celebs or people i`ve seen have curly or wavy hair with no frizz i have deep waves in my hair and i really wanna get rid of my stupid frizzes! does anyone know how without me having to spend much money??
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basically u get what u pay for
im not being nasty, just trying to make u see, that if u buy professional haircare products, i know u might think, oh theyll work just as well as a cheapo one, but they really dont.
Supermarket and other hair products u will find in shopping stores r only packed full of no-good properties......which do not do anythin to ur hair other than pile on a substance to make it look shiny,. For example pantene does this.

I STRONGLY advice you to buy ANY professional hair care products, yes they r alot more expensive, but how u treat ur hair today will affect how the condition of ur hair will be later in ur life.

same with makeup or moisturisers...u wouldnt buy a cheap one just because "they all do the same" innit? or u wudnt buy the most cheapest makeup coz "theyre all the same and i dont wanna spend much money"

U know as well as i do that cheapo makeup and moisturisers r well nasty, and its exactely the same with shampoos conditioners treatments and styling products for ur hair!

we only live once, u should treasure each day and make the most of ur life,

so, buy the best professional hair care systems.....i personally recommend REDKEN or KERASTASE

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i quote froma proffessional website:

"Don`t be penny foolish. Buy good quality salon products. The chemicals used in many if not most over the counter shampoos and conditioners, contain very harsh ingredients such as `ammonium laurel sulfate` which can actually dry your hair out and cause breakage and split ends. Even worse, many contain a form of silicon, and that can be very bad for your hair. `Pantene` is the worst of these in our opinion. "
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ALso, some advice to tame frizzy hair:

"Tips to Tame Frizzy Hair
by Diane @#$%





If you have naturally curly, frizzy hair, or coarse, thick permed hair that is out of control, this is what our beauty experts do to control it.

1. Take about a dime-size portion of Paul Mitchell The Conditioner and 2-3 drops of Varnish by A-G., and mix them together on the palm of the hand. Apply this mixture to damp, clean hair and work through evenly. Distribute from roots to ends. Let dry naturally.


If you want a little more control to style your usually frizzy hair, try adding a dime-size portion of styling lotion to the above mixture. We like Moisture Mousse by Focus 21.

2. Hair that is naturally curly or frizzy usually lacks moisture, so it is important to use a good moisturizing shampoo and conditioner. Get your stylist to recommend one suited for you.

3. Of course, your stylist can also recommend the proper haircut and style for your hair. We find that Velcro rollers work great at smoothing out frizzy hair, as does the Blo-n-Curl styler, which is a brush, curling iron and blow dryer in one. Use your Velcro rollers on dry hair and apply heat with your blow dryer."
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Something to note: Almost ALL salon "high quality" shampoos and conditioners contain silicone derivatives, just like Pantene. Check out the ingredient lists for Redken, Artec, Paul Mitchell, Biosilk, etc, products and you`ll find dimethicone, cyclomethicone, trimethicone, amodimethicone, etc. It`s worth noting that while silicone can build up on hair, it will not damage it. Spray-on glossers are usually almost all silicone, because it gives hair a nice shine and feel.

Additionally, almost ALL shampoos and conditioners are 70-80 percent water. After that, most shampoos contain a sodium or ammonium compound cleanser. (You should look for sodium laureth sulfate as the main detergent; it is quite mild.) Conditioners then usually have a quaternary conditioning agent, emollient alcohol thickener or silicone derivative. You will find this is the case regardless how expensive or cheap a product is.

Now I agree that some salon brands offer some great choices (I`m partial to Redken) and there`s no WAY I`d use Suave on my hair, but if you check out Sally Beauty or another beauty supply store, you`ll find some excellent products that are in between the salon and drugstore in terms of price. Often the ingredients are nearly identical to those of higher-priced items. I especially love the Aura line from Sally--it features a WONderful deep conditioner called Almond Cherry Bark.
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I have to agree with you. Often Salon brands advertise their superior products but when you get down to the nitty gritty and compare with cheaper costing products often the ingredients are the same or very close. As for products like Aveda, they are basically the same as many others on the market with little quantities of plant extracts etc... It is a buyer beware market!
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Aquage is a great haircare line!
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Thanks for the great info, Lyris; i tend to disagree slightly with liz_naz for the same reasons you mentioned. Not all salon products are quality, just like not all products you can buy at Wal-Mart is something you should put in your hair and expect to look great. But i think there is a happy medium; there are some great products out there that are not salon products and vice-versa. Reviewing
ingredient lists are very important.

baby*flower~ you might try a few things. I have curly hair and like liz-naz said, conditioning is extremely important. dry hair creates frizz. A great inexpensive conditioner is Aussie's 3 Minute Miracle Reconstructor. It has great ingredients and i get great results for my curls. Suave products i do not like but the have a "professional" line of products that are knockoffs of salon products that are fabulous. I use the Firm Hold Gel that is the knockoff of Biolage gelee. It is a thin gel and provides good hold for my curls; not sure if it would be too strong for your waves. I just bought the Smoothing Glaze that is another knockoff but haven't tried it yet. This may be a great option for your waves. Another option for you could be a cream; sorry but i don't have any good reccomendations there.

Hope this helps a bit!
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There is this spray that works miracles. Without this there would be not a trace of a curl in my hair.

KMS Curl Up Bounce Back spray

Look for products that contain magnesium sulfate to enhance curls and retain the coil.

I used to just wash, then spray, and went on with my day. KMS always makes good stuff. I've only found this in beauty stores.
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I beg to differ with ya'll people who say more exspensive the better it is but in some cases if you compare a "exspensive" brand with a "cheap" brand sometimes they're the same thing! And about your problem with frizz rinse your hair in cold water and then use a detangler/ shiner thing one sec let me get it.......

well "Hair Detangler" is ok by Home Best but it's pretty cheap stuff thn theres VO5 Detangle & Shine which is really nice becuase it's also a conditioner!

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