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    Posted: May 05 2005 at 1:33am

Hi there, I hope someone can give me some good advice.

My 12 year old daughter was in a play, and without my permission, the teacher dyed her dark blonde hair an auburn red. (She played the little red-headed girl in Charlie Brown).  They used a "semi-permanent" Loreal gel product which said it would last through 28 washings. 

First of all, does this mean that after 28 washings her hair will look the same as it did before?  Or will it still be reddish?  Is there anything we can do to remove it faster?  I would prefer something natural, as opposed to chemical.  And I really don't want to spend the money on a professional color fix if I can do something at home.

Thanks in advance for your help!

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Semi-permanent isn't really semi-permanent when you're going darker...that stuff tends to stick around better than permanent when a darker color is used.  I have doubts that 28 washings or even double that is going to have her back to her natural color. There isn't anything natural that I know of that would get it out. If I were you, I would nicely but firmly inform the teacher/school/principal that this was done without your permission, and that they should pay for having a professional color correction done. If you do go this route please go to a reputable salon, and DONT let them try to bleach it out; red often only bleaches to pink, not to mention the damage.

Other than this, you could try washing her hair with liquid tide (WITHOUT BLEACH!), dishwashing soap like dawn or joy, or prell shampoo. It would take a LOT of washings and some good deep conditioning also because its really going to dry her hair out, BUT, it probably isn't going to get rid of all the red.

Red really can be a tricky color to deal with, if you'd like more (and better, I'm sure) advice, you could post a message for Rick on the Going Blonde board. He is a chemist and a regular poster there, and is a whiz at giving out great info for botched haircolor situations.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/127834

I hope everything works out well for you and your daughter!
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I don't think that theres much chance of the red fading without giving it a helping hand, like bleaching it out. I know a girl who dyed her hair red for about half a year ago. And she still has lots of orange/golden, that she can't get rid of.

You'll need to go to a beauty supply and get some bleach and 10 volume developer.

Bleach the hair to yellow and then tone.

Or just have some highlights put in to blend up the redness.

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Thanks for the help.  I have another question.  We swim a lot during summer.  What should I do to protect her hair and minimize the chlorine damage?

Thanks again!

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Swede, MANY times with red dyes, it refuses to bleach beyond a pinkish/orangeish color. That's why I said in my first post DONT let them bleach.

7blessings, if you're gonna attempt to fix this yourself, get some Colorfix from sally's, follow the directions EXACTLY, and you may have to do this more than once to get as much red as possible out. Just please make sure you have rinsed out COMPLETELY all the Colorfix, otherwise the leftover red pigments will be re-activated by whatever color you use afterwards.

PS you can always bleach after you colorfix as much pigment out as possible, if needed, but you can't colorfix if you bleach and end up with pink hair.

As for protecting hair from damage during swimming, soak her hair in normal water before getting in the pool. That way it will only absorb a minimal amount of the pool water, as it is already saturated with regular water. Or have her wear a swimming cap (yeah right, I'm sure a 12 yr old would love that idea! lol :) )

I still think you need to make a post to Rick on the other forum I linked, and get his opinion. He really is a hair genius.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eatgreenjello Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2005 at 12:17pm

Geez, I can't believe that teacher dyed your daughters hair withOUT your permission.  I'd be sooo mad.  The only way to get her hair back to her normal color, is to let it grow out.  Later when she has decent length roots, you might want to give her a short haircut to get rid of the dyed hair.

If I were you, I wouldn't touch her hair.  It will only cause damage if you re-color and bleach and so on and so on.  Red hair dye fades fast, so just let it be!!!!  Anyway, once you use a color remover, it's a complicated process to get the color you want and her hair will be FRIED.  Now, THAT would look funny.

Also, if YOU don't make a big deal over her color, she won't think it's a big deal either.


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eesh, I'd be mad, especially when a decent wig for a school play could have been bought for $30
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There should've been some sort of permission slip for dyeing, definitely, or preferably they should've used a wig.  But I don't think bleaching or using a remover or anything is a good idea, because it might wreck her hair (which would be a pity, since children have such great hair).  Just wait and see how well it washes out on its own.  Since her hair is a dark blonde, it should wash out better than if it were a pale blonde (when I was in school, some pale blonde girls used pink spray for Hallowe'en and it stayed in for weeks, despite being the kind that washes out in one go :-P ).  If anything, maybe only a slight reddish tint will be left, which isn't too big a deal.

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Thank you all so much for your help.  I really appreciate the time you all took to give me advice.  I think at this point I'm going to wait it out and see how much it fades on its own.  She's washing it daily and using a good conditioner.  Right now it looks very pretty on her.  Her hair is very shiny and soft.  If it looks terrible in a month or so when her roots start showing I may try a color remover.  

You guys are great!!  Thanks again!!!!!! 

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