QuoteReplyTopic: 29 yrs! Alopecia From Profes. Coloring Posted: May 08 2005 at 1:10pm
hi, my name is shelly and iam new to this board. i developed bad hairloss almost 6 years ago, from a very upscale salon, having my hair all over highlighted from dark brown to blonde. i still can't believe i spent $400 to ruin my life! for a very, very insecure to begin with 24 year old, this was an utter tradgedy for me, and continues on to this day! at the time, my dr. promised it would grow back, as i was on the brink of a breakdown, but she kept my sipits up, and hope alive! the place that did my hair was very rough on the scalp, and i did get cuts on my head from their brushing, and possible burning of the scalp, from the bleach being left on too long, perhaps? whatever the case, she said give it a year and i did, and no hair re-grew. i was devestated, and if i could afford it would have a transplant. it's all in the crown area. i covered it up for several years with hot wigs, and then extensions, which got uncomfortable and very pricey ($650 every 6 weeks), plus in the crown i use daily a product that is a powder that i paint onto the scalp, to cover the very thin areas. my dr. told me not to touch my hair with dyes and such for a year and now, it has been nearly 6 years. iam s tired of my drab, dark hair. it has no life, and i so want a change. before that mishap i was able to color myself without a problem, but have not since this tradgedy happened, out of fear and all. at this point, my dr says chemical damage, caused the initial problem, and sped up hereditary hair loss, that would not have shown up for many, many years to come (lucky me)
i so would like to do something with this drab mop, but am unsure about possible consequences. she told me not to touch it for 1 year. do you think by now, my scalp could tolerate a soft, milder hair color, or would it get worse and more fall out? i can't find any information about this, anywhere, and i really am desperate for change, but want to be sure that this won't worsen. iam hoping someone out there has some knowledge on the subject. if i did a minor highlight at home, cause i do not trust a salon anymore, and they probobly would not touch me eigther, and i don't go totally down to the scalp, and do not do it bleach blonde, or over highlight, could this be done safely? has anyone with a past of alopecia, had any success with haircolor of any kind, or have any advice to give. iam so sick of all this, and sooo just want a normal life!
thanks for listening:)
sincerely, shelly
ps- quick note. it hasn't gotten any worse over the past years, just not gotten better. iam 7 mo. pregnant now, but after the baby, i'd love a new look, and a fresh outlook on life. it sucks to be depressed about your looks all of the time!
I had to write you because your story sounds SO much like what I went
through years ago. I went to salons for years, and they pulled my
hair HARD, and I would leave with handfuls of hair falling out weeks
afterward. This all started at about age 25. I was getting
my hair highlighted, so no color actually touched my scalp, so I didn't
think the bleach they used could have been the culprit of
hairloss. I went to hairloss.com, and I corresponded with a VERY
nice lady from the U.K. who suffered from hairloss for years, and she
did a lot of research on the subject. She was actually able to
grow her hair back.
I filled out a questionnaire she had (she wasn't a doctor,
dermatologist, endicrinologist, etc. but she knew more about hairloss
than any of the above I went to), and she said I most likely had stress
and dietary induced hairloss. My hairloss was diffuse, I had an
all-over thinning, with brittle hair that broke off above my
shoulders. I couldn't do ANYTHING with it because it was so
thin. If I tried to put it up in a ponytail, it would be like 10
strands of hair in a ponytail. I
hairsprayed it to death just so it had a little bit of volume. In
the morning, I would wash it, and it would be air-dried within 45
minutes, then I would curl it and go to work. I was afraid of
being caught in the wind because I would be afraid my scalp would show.
I did so much research on this subject for years, so I wanted to share
just a little bit of what I learned about my own hairloss. I can
only tell you what I learned and what helped me, as there are SO many
causes of hairloss, and I truly believe that doctors have not a clue
about many of them. Firstly, a biopsy needs to be done to
determine the reason behind long-term hairloss, and I would say an
Endicrinologist or a dermatologist specializing in hairloss should do
it. When I went to several doctors, derm.'s, and an
Endicrinologist, they all had conflicting diagnoses. One said I
had Androgenetic Alopecia, another said I had Telogen Effluvium,
another said it was stress related, and all did labwork (blood tests)
and everything came back normal that would be hairloss related.
Thyroid problems, hormonal imblances, Alopecia's (androgenetic, etc.)
and nutritional deficiencies were all ruled out. It started when
I was 25, and this had been going on for 4 years. When I turned
30, it was getting worse and I knew that I had to do SOMETHING or I
would be bald eventually (only because the hairs kept falling and my
actual hairs were becoming thinner and shorter).
There is another curious problem that accompanies many people's
hairloss - scalp burning. Every time I would have a severe bout
of hairloss, I would suffer from terrible scalp burning. The
doctors only gave me topical steroid lotions ($100 a bottle) and told
me to buy over the counter shampoos and conditioners. I went to a
website called hairbiology.com and skinbio.com and purchased several
products -- one was Folligen Spray, I started using Minoxidil, I bought
hair vitamins and used Hair Energizer products with Jojoba Oil. I
also de-stressed my life as much as possible. I started eating
fresh fish and tuna, dark green leafy veggies, increased my protein
intake with lean protein shakes, whey, skim milk, yogurt, etc. (this is
already such a long post I didn't want to add too much more, but I had
a particular diet I followed that consisted of 5-6 meals a day with
protein in each one).
DHT (dihydrotestosterone) seems to be one of the reasons for hairloss,
experts say, so I bought a shampoo that supposedly rids the scalp of
this (Hair Energizer - I now use Revivogen and haven't had any hairloss
in 8+ years).
I have to say that all of this is my own experience and I can't tell
you what will or what won't work for you, but I can offer you support
if you need it. I DO understand what you're going through, and no
one who hasn't experienced it can understand what it feels like to be
there. I was able to find a way to grow my hair back and then
some, although I do use a different shampoo than I used to use and I
take hair vitamins and aminos.
If you have ruled out thyroid disorders and everything stated above, I
would be careful about your hair until it becomes stronger. Being
pregnant, I would imagine you would have to be careful what you put on
your scalp so it doesn't absorb as well. I truly think that
eating very cleanly, finding a very specialized endicrinologist if you
need to and relaxing (that is good for the baby, too :) ), will be the
most important factors right now. You can create an environment
for your scalp that is free of sebum that inhibits hair growth in some
individuals because of the excess DHT from what I've heard, use a
botanical (no chemical) products and if your hair is strong enough, you
could use a vegetable based colorant if this is okay with your
doctor. I really hate to give any advice if it's not the right
advice, so I can only relay my own experience, and since you are
pregnant, this presents a whole new set of circumstances.
I will say this -- keep optimistic! I never thought I would grow
my hair back, and now it's down my back and the top of my scalp (all
over my head) has so much hair, when I part my hair, the part is barely
visible. Personally, I just don't think that hairloss is a normal
process, and can be reversed if you persevere. I don't want to
give false information like I said, but I want to make sure that you
don't feel like there is no hope, because I KNOW there is!
I know I wrote a novel (sorry about that!), and I left out so much of
what I did, but if you ever have any questions or just need someone to
talk to, just let me know, k? Take care!
Kris
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I thought I would share my experiences on things that helped me regrow my hair. I'm male and 24, I'm a big time pretty boy when I started losing my hair it was very upsetting. It started after I used a shampoo from a solon (sounds like there bad news). Well I lost 50 % of my hair and my hair was very thin. Like you it sped up hereditary hair loss, I first thought finding a good shampoo would fix the problem, but that didn't work. This all started when I was 19 by the way. Then I decided to look online to see how to properly wash my hair to see if this was causing the problem. From what I found, I was washing my hair all wrong. I found I had to wet my hair then use a pea size ammount of shampoo (because I have short hair) then massage the shampoo gently on my scalp because thats what your washing, is your scalp. Then rinse with cold water or something quite cold. Very gently pat your hair with a towel and let air dry. I condition once a week and wash my hair every day because fine hair gets greasy so easy. I started to see a difference so I continued that. It didn't help to much in the crown area where it stayed thin.
I noticed my hairline on my left side was really bad (to where I would brushed my hair down and no hair even covered my forehead in that one spot) compared to my right. I thought a bit, and when I was sleeping at night I noticed I slept on my left side. I came up with a method so I didn't sleep on my hairline which helped alot on hair growth! Surprising that's a big factor why guys lose alot of hair on there hairline.
Then I decided to go on a good diet that would help my hair grow healthier. The lady above covered nicely what you need for a good hair diet. I also tried to make everything in my life less stressful. At this time my hairline was getting better and the thinning in my crown area thinkened some.
The two things I think helped alot was massaging my scalp 8 minutes a day while my hair was dry. Finding a shampoo that suited me (which is fructis). Massaging my scalp helped increase the blood flow in my scalp and you massage just like you would if you were washing your hair. This really thickened my hair, my crown area now is almost completely better and my hairline is great. Poeple said I'd never beable to reverse hair loss and I just thought I would show it is very much possible.
I hope you get results soon
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I can tell you that diet plays a major role in female hairloss...
My mother crash diets all the time for a few weeks here and a few weeks there...and it always made her hair thin...which really became evident after menopause...
Something I have observed in myself and many other bald(ing) guys is that smoking really contributes towards hair loss...my hair always feels more brittle or frayed or whatever the word is i'm looking for, after a good hard weekend of self-abuse (drinking, smoking, etc)
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