Who Is Right? Nurse or Judge?

AnaisSatin wrote: trophywife wrote: tdouty wrote: Was it ABH (I'm guessing this is Assault with intent to do Bodily Harm)? ABH = actual bodily harm. Ah ha, thank you for clearing that up. In this case I would have to agree YES it's assault, NO it's not taken to the next level. Frankly I'm just glad that it's the woman's hair and not her arm. What a creep!

Well the current law of England and Wales draws only a very fine (some might say blurry) distinction between assault and ABH - for example, restraining someone around their hand or wrist to the extent that a bruise appears is ABH - so it's all a bit of a minefield.  In this instance, it appears that the girl's counsel was gunning for ABH so that this horrible bloke would receive a harsher punishment.

Hope that makes sense.

enfys wrote: How I didn't know about this when it was in England I don't know....

You think this would make the news when there is Wayne and Coleen's latest argument to report on?!  ;)  Not to mention the antics of Jodie Marsh and Prince Harry...

Susan W wrote: In this case I think creative sentencing would be in order.  It was assault, but maybe not assault with intent to do bodily harm, since "hair is dead".  Because "she was stressing him out" is no excuse however, and he should have to pay for this assault.  Were I the judge, I'd order his head shaved every week until her hair grew back to its original length.  If he took away her choice of appearance, his choice in the matter should be taken away until hers grows back. Gavel goes BANG!

Hi Susan,

Well said.  I love the idea of making the guy shave his head. 

This whole subject creeps me out.  Just last week I had someone reach over and touch my hair in a supermarket and say...oh how pretty...it was some guy...and I still struggle with what to say.  Also, I tend to wear my hair pinned up while out in public to avoid this danger. (I know, another topic for another day).

So the thought that my S.O. would chop off my hair in a fit of rage.  Sends shivers.  But I do love the forced head shaving. :-)

Hi Karen,

I didn't visit  Hair Talk for too long. Sorry for that.

I was really astonished by this topic/article. You are very right to oppose this decision. Hair is not dead. It's a vital part of a girl/woman and very often their crowning glory. I would say that the judge was wrong. There was a lot of harm done. It's a violation of personal integrity to cut of someone's hair without permission. Hair is a part of someone's personality and the described act was of course NOT in accordance with human rights and the freedoms associated with these rights. I hope that this woman will get the change to get justice and that she will get back her long hair.

Karen, this brings me to your final point. The whole subject creeps me out also. I have to be alert with my long hair. I prefer to wear my hair flowing straight down my back but do so  at home and in office. I do not feel safe in supermarkets,cinema's concerthall's and especially not in public transport unless I wear my hair in a braided bun, two Dutch braids or a pony-tail. And even than! 

We should remenber that long hair is a treasure and you should always be aware of that!

Anne-Loes

Tyranna wrote: Just last week I had someone reach over and touch my hair in a supermarket and say...oh how pretty...it was some guy...and I still struggle with what to say.  Also, I tend to wear my hair pinned up while out in public to avoid this danger. (I know, another topic for another day). Karen, this brings me to your final point. The whole subject creeps me out also. I have to be alert with my long hair. I prefer to wear my hair flowing straight down my back but do so  at home and in office. I do not feel safe in supermarkets,cinema's concerthall's and especially not in public transport unless I wear my hair in a braided bun, two Dutch braids or a pony-tail. And even than!  I realize I brought up the subject of that particular serial killer and all, but such an occurance would be extraordinarily rare.  Given that, I am surprised to see some of you put your hair up for purely defensive purposes.  Is this just to avoid the chance of a stranger touching it or is it also to avoid the chance of long hair getting caught in machinery or something (a thing I would be more worried about, say if my hair was of extreme length)?  Do people regularly mess with you because of the longer hair? My hair is to my waist in back, but beyond the accidental brushing or maybe tugging in a crowded place like a hockey game or something, no one messes with me.

I used to wear my hair up in the early days of HairBoutique.com when I actually packed boxed.  I used to get packing tape caught in it...OUCH.  But now, I am rarely in the warehouse these days.  So I wear it down in my office.  However, I am paranoid about being out in public by myself.  Yes, it has happened to me more than once that people, both men and women, have reached over and grabbed my hair without asking first...in public places like restaurants, movie theaters and grocery stores.  I once had a baby reach out when I was in a grocery store checkout lane and grab my hair and not let go.  That was humorous because the mother had to untangle us but the other times - not so funny.

So yes...it does and has happened.

You know, I wouldn't worry about it if I were you gals.  Strangers touching your hair may never happen where you live and having fear about it will only upset you.  The more you fear something, the more likely it is to happen due to unwanted self-fulfilling prophecy (meaning -you are so afraid it will happen, that you picture it happening all the time, and that seeing it in your head all the time leads you to a situation where you accidentally cause the thing you fear to happen)....but that's kind of beside the point.  Whatever the reason, it may never happen, and fearing it constantly is only going to stress you out.