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    Posted: February 26 2006 at 11:02pm
Naturally, I have very textured hair.  In fact, some people think my hair is almost like that of an African American.  The only way to tame my hair is to use a straightening iron on it. I did this for about 2 years and then noticed my hair was breaking off, so I thought maybe I would perm it.  Well, my beautician said that perming it was really damaging it. So now I have a perm and sometimes I wear it straight too, which takes like 2 hours to do!  It still breaks off really really bad, but thing is, I use SOOOO many products on it! After I wash it, I use a protein treatment, after I rinse it out, I use a "long and strong" treatment that I leave in.  Then, I use a heat protecting cream that protects from heat.  Finally, I use a frizz control serum.  I don't know what to do.  I can't straighten it, or it breaks off, I can't perm it, or it gets damaged even more.  I am to my witts end. I just want healthy hair that doesn't require a billion products in it and hair that is managable!  Can anyone help?!?!

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Hi Whitney,

Maybe it depends on your definition of manageable. I think the problem (if there is one) is not related to whether your hair is truly manageable, but rather it's related to how much you like your hair texture. The healthiest thing you can do should revert to natural hair care with no heat and no chemicals. Using too many products is less damaging than using heat and chemicals.

I don't have any experience with your hair type so I'm not going to pretend I know anything about this  My best suggestions though would be to try conditioning your hair twice per wash, or adding a leave-in conditioner. It will weigh your hair down and decrease the amount of frizz you have, if any. Your hair texture sounds really beautiful. I think you should exploit your texture and work on making it defined, rather than changing it to straight.

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I agree with Anais -  Nothing you are doing is going to make your hair healthy because so much of what you are doing (perming and straightening) is just damaging it to the point where there's not much you can do to hide the damage.  Let it go to its natural state, and it will be healthy again.  Experiment with different styles and products on your natural hair texture, and read a lot about hair tips for your hair type.   I too can't pretend to know anything about your hair type, but I used to fight like crazy to get my hair super curly...it just wasn't happening. These things tend to work out for the best when we stop trying to fight nature.

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I see what both of you guys are saying, but my hair with NOTHING done to it, looks like a big ball of frizz...It's thick and just very frizzy.  People used to call me "french fry" because my hair was crinkled like a french fry! I wish I had a picture to show you how frizzy and HUGE it is when nothing is done to it!


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Do you dry and iron your hair everyday? I used to do that and mine started to break and get frizzy really bad. I noticed that when I stopped drying it, and just let it air dry it got better. I did this for about a week and used lots of deep conditioner--I found one that works wonders--and the texture of my hair seemed to improve.
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People will tease you no matter what your hair looks like, if its not your hair its something else, they are just like that.  If you need frizz control there are things you can do to your natural hair to ease the frizz and define the wave pattern (like using jojoba oil, plus a few other tips the curly haired use), also different cuts will diminish bushiness if you don't like that (layers for example).

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My hair used to frize as well when I used to straighten it. Ended up having to lay off the straightening iron (and stop dying my hair). After I cut all the damage off it looked much better and is so much more managible. It doesnt friz anymore but does go poofy. But it's very manigable now.
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I'm sorry but these suggestions are not helpful. I feel for you whitwoo. It's not easy having unruley hair. There's nothing like hating your frizzy uncontrolable hair and having people with straight hair tell you that you need to lay off the flat iron and let it be natural. It's like telling a blind person not to use their walking stick and walk around naturally.

What I do is I get the Japanese straightening, yuko, and I do that once per year. Even though a lot grows out and it's a bit wavy at the top it still cuts the frizz! It's much better on your hair than traditional straighteners. If you want your hair long, like I do, I wear one row of clip on hair extensions. I love it.

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haha, you understand me completely! Where do you get the Japanese straightening and how much does it cost? I'm afraid to use extensions because I'm afraid they won't match the texture of my hair.

But, I do appreciate everyone else's comments. I have tried to lay off the flat iron every-other-day by wearing my hair in a pony tail or something like that.
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I finally found a picture small enough to put on here! So there it is...my hair!
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It looks healthy!
You have nice hair. Have you heard anything about Yuko? You may
find that to be your answer.
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Oops, I didn't see your first post.
I live in Los Angeles and it costs $350. It's worth every penny!
I've been doing it for six years now. As I say, I only do it once a year. Most people do it twice a year but it's totally managable once a year.

If you are interested in extensions, the forum for extensions on this site is *super* helpful. There are some really nice people there.
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Perhaps you are using to much protein. To much can have the opposite effect, breaking Also if you must flat iron/blow dry try to use a light oil especially on the ends while your hair is still damp and above all stay away from any product that has alcohol in the top 4 ingredients. A jojoba or coconut oil perhaps. A friend uses Ojon and loves it I use jojoba. Textured hair is very delicate, it's not a wash & go  deal.

Finally use 100% jojoba for best results I purchase mine online I find it much cheaper.

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www.mystifyyoursenses.com/

 

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Oh forgot to mention olive oil is also go for a pre-poo conditioner
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