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    Posted: March 30 2006 at 12:45pm

Hi everyone!

Im a stylist that wants to start offering extensions to my clients, however Im so lost !I cant decide where to start shoud I spend 1600 on the GL class or teach myself?? I had the GL in my hair and they looked great but the girl who removed  them just trashed my hair so Im not totally conveniced there the best other than the hair was really nice.(I think thats all your paying for) it seems to me anyone can put them in so do I pay for the class to be able to buy their hair? Or is there other good hair out there? And what method do you prefer? I bought a shrink start up kit to practice on a doll head.And of course I want the best quality hair and most natrual looking method. I want to get started soon so any advice is appreciated !

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I think GL is too expensive for most people who want extensions. I'm a DIY person but if I were a client I would not be able to afford GL. I used to have  fusion and would get them done with pre-tipped hair. There's lots of good quality pre-tipped hair. Usually for good hair it can be $1.00 - $2.00 per peice and for a full head it can take 150 - 200 peices.

You shouldn't leave extensions in any longer than three months. For some reason, every stylist who does great lengths says you can keep them in up to six months. It's not good for your hair to hold all that weight. I'm sure you know all this...
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Yeah, I agree with Malibu. I am a DIYer too, and personally, I would never
pay that much for extensions!!! Every picture of GL I have seen looks
amazing, but I hate how they aren't that educated about hair, and are told
to lie and decieve people. I think you can do just as great of work w/o GL.
Look at the majority of professionals on here. They do stunning work,
most that I see is with fusion or shrinkthinges, hair is all over the place,
it's just about finding something you think is a good quality, there's
plenty to pick from. I'll let an actual professional give you further
assistance!
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Honestly I have taken many hair extension classes and actually found them to be a waste of time and money. Where do you live ? The reason I ask is because in April IBS is having a Hair Show in New York and in August Premier Orlando is having one in Orlando. The vendors are right there performing their hair extension techinques which gives you the opportunity to look at the different methods. Along with this website I think you would be mucher better off going to a hair show and researching this website for information. It would be a lot less expensive too !
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Thank you so much girls!!

I agree that most people cant afford GL ( I only had them once because of the price) I just dont know where to start with the hair buying selection. Do you guys have any recomendations on hair and does its matter how much you spend on the heating device? It seems the one I bought really melted to bond to much.

I live in San Diego I wish I was going to IBS!!! I actually work for Aveda and were having masterjam in Hollywood this weekend but no extensions there.

Thanks again

Naked Eye your hair looks beautiful!!!

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I haven taken many, many extension classes, and some were well worth the money and others weren't.

I have purposely elected not to take the GL class.  First of all, I hate fusion because it sheds and it's hard to get out of the hair.  Secondly, GL are hair natzis, they want to control what you charge for your services.  Plus they lie to you and tell you that you can keep extensions in for 6 months at a time.

Class I thought was worth the money:

Shrink Links, Ultratress, weaving classes, Prohair (really liked that one)

However, I took many of these classes before one could readily buy  these products on the open market.  At that time, you had to take the class to get the product from the company.  Now that DIY is such a big thing, I don't know if it's necessary to attend all the classes.  I'd say attended one or two, and from there on out, just practice.

Good Luck!

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first off i respect the fact that u even asked if you should take classes. that says alot to me about the type of person and professional you are, and by the way welcome to our boards

i would reccommend you first do research on the types of extensions you would like to offer, then find a class, i feel. its vital to take at least one class. learning on the internet is good, however in my professional and humble opinion, i think anyone who thinks they can READ how to apply extensions is foolish and way unprofessional to think that all there is to it is reading.

any good class out there these days will explain different types of hair, how to apply, how not to apply, how to remove, how not to remove, how to market yourself, where to buy good hair etc. there is so much more to learn then just sitting on computer and reading, and like metalgirl said, practice a ton!

PALEASE~ do not install extensions until you know how to properly remove them, it could be a mess and detrimental to clients hair.

classes i would reccommend- Mark Barrington shrink links TM

that i hear is awesome- his hair is amazing and so are his shrink links and once u are certified with him, you can use his hair which is amazing.

Hairlocs- that is the one i do mainly, the class is good, the tenique is taught and you can them purchase hair from them as well.

i dont do glue or fusion so i cant reccommend a good  class for that,

i am located about 2 hrs from u in so cal- inland empire area

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I have been to the GL class and I do them in my salon. I have never told anyone that they will last for 6 months. I do alot of GL installs every week, so women do pay for them. There are alot of methods that i have tried that I do not like, but I dont bash them on thes boards. It seems to me that the people who do bash are usually passing on second hand information..ie things they have heard not done themselves. I love fusion and I think it is a great method for alot of people. There is no one method that will be good for everyone.

 

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Believe me Keri, if I could afford GL I would be in the salon every three months getting them. With that said, I've done a lot of reasearch on all methods and my information is first hand. I'm not sure where there is GL bashing here.

Let's face it, GL is a lot of $$$ and actually everyone I've spoken to except for you who is a GL stylist do say they last six months. My hair dresser who I really like has her GL in now 8 months.
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Originally posted by metalgirl metalgirl wrote:

I haven taken many, many extension classes, and some were well worth the money and others weren't.

I have purposely elected not to take the GL class.  First of all, I hate fusion because it sheds and it's hard to get out of the hair.  Secondly, GL are hair natzis, they want to control what you charge for your services.  Plus they lie to you and tell you that you can keep extensions in for 6 months at a time.

Class I thought was worth the money:

Shrink Links, Ultratress, weaving classes, Prohair (really liked that one)

However, I took many of these classes before one could readily buy  these products on the open market.  At that time, you had to take the class to get the product from the company.  Now that DIY is such a big thing, I don't know if it's necessary to attend all the classes.  I'd say attended one or two, and from there on out, just practice.

Good Luck!

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I am black hair stylist and I would like to offer fusion extension, and hairlocs, are hair tends to be very dry. What are you girls suggestions far as classes, and what are shrinkies

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I think everyone a method that they hate, for me that is hairlocs, had a very bad experience with them. I think that all methods shed, but again it depends on the quality of the product. I tell my GL clients that one of the reason you have to remove them on time is due to sheding and that since hair grows about 1/2 inch every month the longer you wait the remove them the more your hair will be damaged because as your natural hair sheds the amount that is holding the bond gets smaller and smaller until your bond will only be holding on by a few strands of hair. I dont see how anyone can go 8 months..wow that is soo bad for the hair.

 

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its all on installation and removal, too bad u had a bad experience with hairlocs, i feel the same way with fusion- any kind-glue, wax, protien, what ever way you want to word it.

i repair hair from great lengths, fusion and glue all day long- the results in poor installs/removal and placement is downright insulting to say the least, if you are trained in any method and take care and time with your work, you should have no problem. you need to find what works best for YOU and the client, learning a couple is always best to have an option for your clients.

no one should ever go more then 3 months MAX with extensions not being maintained.

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All methods don't shed. I've used His and Her's pre-tipped hair and that DOES NOT shed. It's amazing because they'll slid out and I'll re-apply them with less glue and they don't shed. The hair quality is pitiful and they slid out after two weeks but girl.......THey Do Not Shed

Mark Barrington doesn't shed either.
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I am African American and I have hairlocs.  I LOVE THEM!!! I had worn fusion extensions for several years and decided to try Hairlocs because you didn't have to utilize any type of adhesive or heat to apply them.  I have had them for approx. 4 weeks and so far I like them much better than fusion.  I haven't lost any extensions, I haven't experienced any shedding or slipping, and my extensions are extremely flat and virtually undetectable (unless you feel at the scalp).  I also like the fact that when it is time for a redo..the stylist can just move the hairlocs up on the new growth and the  hair is reusable.

Like I said before..I have only had them for 4 weeks..but for now..they are winning hands down. My extensionist has started to offer shrinkies too...so I may try them in the future.

 

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