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    Posted: April 07 2006 at 6:04am

ANYONE heard of this procedure?

im excited about it i spoke to a great lady and she knows what shes talking about..



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I am familar with the system it's just like Great Lengths it's a cold fusion system here is a link to their website;  www.socapmiami.com.
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It's just fusion, like all the other fusion methods out there.  It's nothing special.
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It is the method I use most in my salon and I love it. You can see examples here. http://www.clubsalon.com  select salon services then ablout half way down you will see a link for examples. All of these pics are So Caps and GL.

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I currently have GL, this is my 5th time, love them love them as always. However, last summer, I was going out of town and my stylist said if I wanted them sooner she'd have to order SoCap USA instead of GL to get them in time.  I don't know if it was just a bad shipment or what, but the quality of the hair was horrible, i had terrible terrible matting, up around my shoulders and back of the neck.  I told her please don't ever order me that again.  maybe it was a bad batch???  its the same exact method as GL though, she used her GL machine to put them in.  they cost the same as GL too.  I'm thinking I may have just got a bad batch of hair then??  That's all i Know about socap
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Originally posted by Club Salon Club Salon wrote:

It is the method I use most in my salon and I love it. You can see examples here. http://www.clubsalon.com  select salon services then ablout half way down you will see a link for examples. All of these pics are So Caps and GL.

Keri


Why is it called "Cold" fusion if it's the same process as GL?



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Originally posted by malibu malibu wrote:

Why is it called "Cold" fusion if it's the same at GL?
Also, I couldn't open your website.
Because as quiet as they keep it, GL is just another type of cold fusion system..
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But I thought GL is using heat???
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GL has there standard fusion method which is NOT cold fusion nor is any method that involves using heat. GL also has a patented 'cold fusion' method which involves using a wand that looks similar to the heat wand, but uses ultrasonic waves, not heat to melt the bond. Whether SO-CAP or any other company is doing a cold fusion process I have no idea.
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ahh yes I just looked at the so cap website and they indeed do have a cold fusion process. (Im surprised GL isnt suing So-cap since GL holds a patent on the process......LOL) No offense intended..its a joke!! hehe
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Does anyone know if the "cheap" wands we buy online...like the one on www.yourhairshop.com will melt the fusion that is on the socaps hair? Thanks (by the way....if you are interested...the Dlux hair is back in stock)
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kalypso....why do you call them "cheap"?
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I'm sorry...I didnt mean "cheap" as in quality, but the price is affordable (cheap) compared to a 500 dollar great lengths or so.cap's machine . :)
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Wimex is $10 cheaper for the same wand http://salon.wimexbeauty.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=P ROD&Product_Code=68631&Category_Code=7705 and then Mike on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/Dual-Heat-Wand-Tool-for-Fusion-Human-Hai r-Extensions_W0QQitemZ6869636633QQcategoryZ60188QQssPageName ZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem offers them for as low as $20 and that includes the shipping. For $50 you can get the wand + 5oz of some nice looking fusion. I have the hair here and it's very pretty!

As far as that brand of wand goes (it's called "LOOF") - I like the consistent high heat of this one over the Chaoba (which is the flat-tipped one). The Chaoba is known for its poopy performance in equal heat. The LOOF is hotter with both sides being equal and tackles the high-heat fusion tips much better.
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Originally posted by sherrie215 sherrie215 wrote:

ahh yes I just looked at the so cap website and they indeed do have a cold fusion process. (Im surprised GL isnt suing So-cap since GL holds a patent on the process......LOL) No offense intended..its a joke!! hehe
Not to stir up any bad memories here either, but from what I can tell, the only thing GL or So-Cap could possibly hold a patent on is:

  1. The machine they use for the cold fusion process
  2. Their hair
  3. The combination of materials they use on the bonds

The cold fusion process itself is "borrowed" from the industrial world -- specifically Ultrasonic Welding.. To say that the cold fusion process does not use heat is technically not true.. Ultrasonic waves are not hot, but the effect on the bonds produces heat through friction, therefore melting the bond, so it will adhere with the hair..

Quote Ultrasonic welding
When bonding material through ultrasonic welding, the energy required comes in the form of mechanical vibrations. High-frequency vertical vibrations (20 to 70kHz) are used to increase the temperature and plastify the material.

The parts to be bonded are simultaneously pressed together. The simultaneous action of static and dynamic forces causes a fusion of the parts without having to use additional material. This procedure is used on an industrial scale for linking both plastics and metals.

Ultrasonic welding of plastics is a state-of-the-art technology that has been in use for many years. Frictional heat is produced so that material plasticizes locally, forging an insoluble connection between both parts within a very short period of time.

The joint quality is very uniform because the energy transfer and the released internal heat remains constant and is limited to the joining area. In order to obtain an optimum result, the joining areas are prepared to make them suitable for ultrasonic bonding.

Originally posted by http://www.lynnshair.com/ColdFusion.htm http://www.lynnshair.com/ColdFusion.htm wrote:

Ron Cardillo, president of So.Cap. USA Hair Extensions, notes, “The machine, dubbed the Ultrastar, is an innovative product because instead of “melting” the extension onto the hair using heat, it uses sound waves.  The high frequency waves literally vibrate the pre-bonded tip on the hair extension, causing friction, which causes the bonds between the keratin to soften.  Since hair is made up of keratin as well, when the keratin tip on the extension becomes liquid, it essentially fuses to the natural hair.  This process allows for a healthy, natural, strong and long-lasting bond, all without using damaging heat.”



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Diva...you go girl!  As someone else once said...you remind me of our girl Jenny.

So then once again, the 'cold' fusion term is just another play on words. I think most people assume when they hear the words cold fusion process, that it doesnt involve the use of heat. Technically yes I knew that the ultrasonic waves do produce some form of heat to 'melt' the bond.

Speaking of the patent issue, a certain other process is also 'borrowed' from the industrial world.

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Originally posted by sherrie215 sherrie215 wrote:

Diva...you go girl!  As someone else once said...you remind me of our girl Jenny.
Gosh.. ya makin' me blush.. I've read Jenny's posts.. I don't know if I'm worthy!!

Originally posted by sherrie215 sherrie215 wrote:

So then once again, the 'cold' fusion term is just another play on words. I think most people assume when they hear the words cold fusion process, that it doesnt involve the use of heat. Technically yes I knew that the ultrasonic waves do produce some form of heat to 'melt' the bond.
Yep.. more sales hype.. But ya gotta give it to 'em.. I guess when you REALLY don't have anything new to bring to the world of extensions, then your marketing group will find a way to twist the words to make it SOUND like you've got something new going on...

Originally posted by sherrie215 sherrie215 wrote:

Speaking of the patent issue, a certain other process is also 'borrowed' from the industrial world.
Shhhhh.. I was trying to be slick when I threw out the hint..



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LOL.....ok...Im shhhhhhhshing now!

 

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