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    Posted: June 04 2006 at 9:23pm
    

I was researching recently about Sodium/Ammonium Lauryl/Laureth Sulfates after having terribly dry hair becuz of Laureth which is supposed to be gentler and I found some VERY SCARY info,,I read that these sulfates absorb thru the skin layer,, they are able to penetrate and once they get into the bloodstream they release nitrites as much as the amount it a POUND of bacon!! And nitrites are highly cancer causing!! I have thrown out my SLS shampoos and the body washes i used that would make my skin so dry it was just gross.. I also read that these sulfates were used industrially to clean grease off of engines and this stuff was a sulfate gentler than that in Prell shampoo!!,, I remember using a Suave bodywash and i could smell the Ammonia coming from it( Ammonium lauryl/laureth sulfate),, this was also the case with Infusium shampoo and they call it moisturizing,, i think its a shame that the companies get away with this stuff.. I had read that ppl like it becuz it lathers and if ppl dont have a great deal of lather they think theyre not really cleaning anything,, anyway,, just thought id remind ppl about how damaging sulfates can be, they are even in toothpaste which we put into out mouth!!
Hair type: 3b some c?, fine strands, last relaxer sept 05, never again!!! current :ap length on sides,,nearly bsl in back, damn those old frazzled ends! I am hair OBSESSED   
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Thanks for sharing cookie.  Yeah, I'm trying to stay away from sulfate's, especially in my hair and on my face.  I can't beleive I was washing my face w/ sulfate's for so long! 
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When I first found out that news about the chemicals in hair care I thought to myself...we cannot do anything in this world without getting cancer.  Yes, the news is scary, but heck a lot of things can kill me, but hey, if I adjusted my life every time someone said it could potentially kill me, I'd be in a rut.  I rarely shampoo, so maybe I am safe, if not, ah well.  Live for the day.  Thanks Cookie!Big smile
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sodium laurel sulfate[is not in most shampoos], ammonium laureth sulfate  and ammonium  lauryl sulfate fade the color of color treated hair[dyed hair] 
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Pickledgeuse i hear ya ,, and i get where youre coming from but really you have to be careful what u use,, the government and businesses do not care whether americans get cancer,, ppl may think that the gov't looks out for us in these issues but look at cigarettes for an example, and how long it took to take the deadly trans fat out of foods, its always a good thing to keep you eyes open:-) really sorry to sound preachy anyway ,, Pokahantas,, me too ,,i was using body washes all the damn time with sulfates then sitting wondering why my skin was flaking , itching and sooo dry and thinking that was just my natural skin type LOL,, im pissed about that!!!



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i find it very hard 2 believe that those chemicals will definately cause cancer. the FDA has 2 approve every product that will be for human use,and i doubt they would let sumthin as basic as shampoo and body wash slip thru the cracks of their review. dont u thing all of those companies would go out of biznass and be sues by everyone??
 
and yes, a lot of things can cause cancer. sum say cell phones, tv, and non-stick cooking pans can too. but is any1 gunna stop using them? i see it like this: if God says its yur time 2 go then hunny, JUST GO!!LOL
 
has any1 stopped 2 thing that maybe those chemicals in there, but in small portions? maybe it is just enough to clean hair and is still safe for human use. c'mon now ladies.
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I think the real lesson here is that you should listen to your body/brain when they tell you stuff.  If you smell ammonia coming out of your body wash, you don't need a government study to tell you to throw it away.  If the products that you've been using make your skin scaly and your hair dull, by all means, switch.   Besides, the study you saw claims that sulfates release nitrites into your bloodstream -- but did it say how much of the product over how long of a period of time it takes for sodium ammonium laurel/laureth sulfate to produce those bad effects?  I mean, it's obviously not an overnight thing.
 
I agree with everyone who's saying "relax."  Don't consciously put bad stuff into your body, but don't psych yourself out either.  It's awfully hard to get through your day when you do.
Make every day you have count, before the time comes for you to count every day you have.
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Totally Agreeing.  I've never had the problem with soap wash drying my skin(I use Johnson's Soft Wash), and products that dont do my hair just..I'm like UGH! NO...and get rid of it, despite it's contents.

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The gov't approves stuff all the time that are killing people.  They don't care about people's health it's about money.   Just look at the food and everything else that's being sold.   I don't understand why people put so much faith and trust in the gov't.

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well i dont put trust in the government. but when u talk about food killing ppl, thats a little far fetched. ppl kill themselves with food when they eat 2 much of it!! but back 2 hair, the underlying tip i think is really helpful is get yur products down 2 a couple that u use consistantly. i think this will help yur hair get use 2 the products.
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Originally posted by Supersugar Supersugar wrote:

I think the real lesson here is that you should listen to your body/brain when they tell you stuff.  If you smell ammonia coming out of your body wash, you don't need a government study to tell you to throw it away.  If the products that you've been using make your skin scaly and your hair dull, by all means, switch.   Besides, the study you saw claims that sulfates release nitrites into your bloodstream -- but did it say how much of the product over how long of a period of time it takes for sodium ammonium laurel/laureth sulfate to produce those bad effects?  I mean, it's obviously not an overnight thing.
 
I agree with everyone who's saying "relax."  Don't consciously put bad stuff into your body, but don't psych yourself out either.  It's awfully hard to get through your day when you do.
 
I agree, you can't live in fear thinking everything will give you cancer.
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You've got you lauryl and laureth all mixed up. It's definetly ammonium/sodium lauryl sulfate that is drying to your hair and skin, ammonium laureth is just a gentle cleansing agent and it's not supposed to dry out skin. So it's be best to do more research. I got my info from a book called "Dont go to shopping for hair care products with out me" by Paula Begoun. Really good book try some research to much internet junk can ruin the thought process.
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Irritant? yes.
Carcinogen? probably not.

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/shampoo.asp - hoax-busting site - also useful for when people email you about the latest, greatest virus that's just been announced by microsoft...

http://www.cosmeticscop.com/learn/article.asp?PAGETYPE=ART&REFER=SKIN&ID=50 - features an interview with the guy who did the experiments which "proved" that SLS / SLES is cancer-causing who says actually they're safe, the experiments proved that the stuff doesn't cause cancer and isn't retained in the eyes and other places

Here's something else to think about. The people causing the flap about SLS and SLES are the same people selling "natural" soap which is between 3 and 10 times the price of "ordinary" soap. I also sell natural soap and aromatherapy products. I don't find it necessary to scare people into using my soap. I prefer the "try it, it's really, really nice" approach
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This reminds me of an article I read about people in a town who called up their local government screaming that something had to be done about the dihydrogen monoxide in the environment. It's too bad they didn't realize water isn't a hazmat.
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I wonder if when people stop using shampoos contains SLS etc also stop using other products that contain them such as body wash, hand wash etc?
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Originally posted by Supersugar Supersugar wrote:

I think the real lesson here is that you should listen to your body/brain when they tell you stuff.  If you smell ammonia coming out of your body wash, you don't need a government study to tell you to throw it away.  If the products that you've been using make your skin scaly and your hair dull, by all means, switch.   Besides, the study you saw claims that sulfates release nitrites into your bloodstream -- but did it say how much of the product over how long of a period of time it takes for sodium ammonium laurel/laureth sulfate to produce those bad effects?  I mean, it's obviously not an overnight thing.
 
I agree with everyone who's saying "relax."  Don't consciously put bad stuff into your body, but don't psych yourself out either.  It's awfully hard to get through your day when you do.
 
I concur with everything that you stated.

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