QuoteReplyTopic: microrings are too small!! Posted: December 29 2007 at 6:41pm
i ordered silicone microrings from yourhairshop.com and got them yestrday. i dont have my new extensions yet but i looked at one of the old ones i have lying around and the tip only just fits in there, and the silicone insert was pushed out coz it was so tight.. this was without hair!! is there anything i can do to make tips smaller? it is probly a stupid question but i really dont have any money left to buy more stuff :'(
Edited by punkrocker18 - December 29 2007 at 6:42pm
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I use the silicone micro rings and I use the smaller 2mm inside diameter. It fits most stick hair. But if it doesn't , you can take your fusion wand and heat the tip and split it apart. You may want to use a little extra keratin to retip it. It's a pain to do, but in a pinch, it will work.
thanks heaps.. ill wait till the hair gets here and let you know how it goes :) oh and the tips arnt keratin so i cant melt them. ill try them and if i cant fit it in ill try the cutting and nail glue thing on a few strands n see how it holds up
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the silcone takes up alot of room, thus you cannot get sufficent amount of natural hair into link for proper install.
honestly, i would wait or order larger ones. purhaps you could exchange them?
have u tried the locs without silcone?
Hey Tangles, I thought the point of the silicone was to protect the hair from the metal. Is it not necessary to have them coated with silicone? I always read/heard that metal brakes the hair. Is that not really the case?
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You should see if kristin will let you send back the rings for an exchange for a larger size.
The silicone does help to protect the hair, but the lining makes the rings bulky, and you have to use a lot larger ring than you normally would have to use in order to accommodate the tips. And alot of people complain that the linings are easy to pop out.
As far as regular rings and breaking the hair, IMO the possibility of damage from rings usually comes from re-using rings more than one time. A pair of pliers with smooth jaws should be used to install them so you dont chip the paint or create sharp edges. When you reopen the rings they can get gnawed up and sharp edges and you shouldnt reuse the same rings. (some people who dont do a full take down, or during maintanence when the ring is reopened, moved up and reclosed)
I regularly use the silicone lined rings and I do use the smaller 2mm inside diameter size and most stick hair fits into it fine. I do think this type of ring is more bulky, and because I have to exert more pressure to the pliers to flatten it, after doing an install, my hand really aches. I do have many clients who prefer this method, so I'm doing it several times a weeks and I do worry about the effect on my hands over time.
I think the unlined locs are easier to flatten and do lay flatter. I like that about them. In general, I don't think they damage hair. The problem comes in if you need to use one of those pointy tools to reopen the ring when you take them out. Those pointy tools shread hair. The rings are just more difficult to open.
I also think they do slip more in the hair.
But you should try both kinds and see what you like.
You can remelt the tips even if they are bound with the waxy stuff. It will split just the same and you can make smaller tips.
i have tried the unlined before but i had such bad slippage, it drove me mad. i think i will try the melting thing. i have thin hair and these rings are going to be hard enough to cover as it is, i dont want to go any bigger :)
damage comes from opening rings, any kind- the wrong way- the pointy edges arent that great, espicially if your not trained on the proper way to use them, i myself work with a tool that re rounds the cylinders so there is no damage and no crushing of clyinders.
i occassionally use the silcon lines ones, only on a few clients and they do lay bulkier and they can also slip-
metal- you really need to take care of your hands girl,-try stretching your hands and fingers. this helps me with the volume of work i do.
Edited by TanglesRC - December 30 2007 at 5:50pm
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I guess I'm confused then. I thought metal against hair will break the hair.
ANYTHING will not break the hair if installed wrong. A shrinkie is a lot less likely to break the hair before a metal ring will. It takes a lot less for a metal ring to break the hair then most extension methods.
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The possiblity of damage from the metal rings is mainly from sharp edges. When you use a regular pair of pliers to reopen the rings they have a tendancy to crush, fold over on themselves crack the metal and get sharp pointy edges and that can break or tear the hair. The pliers with grooves for reopening rings, squeezes the rings back open without the crushing or foldover issues. And the tool that metalgirl mentioned is also known for causing damage to hair when removing the rings.
Also, alot of people used to say you could reuse the rings a few times, so if you were using the regular pliers to open the rings (and cause sharp edges) then reuse those rings that could damage the hair.
Another thing too, if you use a pair of pliers with ridges to install the rings you can chip the paint or create sharp edges on the rings. SO its important to use a pair of pliers with smooth jaws to install them.
Personally I had more damage from shrinkies than any other method. I always took out gobs of my own hair when removing shrinkies.....those buggers just did NOT want to come out of my hair!
I realize improper take down or install can cause damage.... That's really not what I'm trying to figure out but thanks for explaining the possible damage from pliers.
I always read and heard that metal breaks the hair. I'm not referring to pliers (just for the record). I referring to the metal that the metal ring is made from.
As for you having a hard time with taking shrinkies out...I believe you Sherrie. I had a bad experience with getting shrinkies out too. My point is not installation or take down or pliers. It's that a shrinkie is plastic and not metal.
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I get what your saying Malibu, and I've always heard that too.
Just my observations from playing with the rings for awhile. I dont think its so much the metal that breaks the hair, its sharp metal that can break hair. But if you take the proper precautions to prevent sharp edges on the rings it should eliminate most potential for breakage.
I dont know about you, but the shrinkies were about as hard as a rock in my hair...stayed in good and never really lost any, but takedown was a NIGHTMARE
Oh!! Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, I'm always concerned about bobby pins in my hair. I use plastic clips but would rather use bobby pins. Since it's metal I limit my use. That's really why I was trying to find out if metal breaks hair. If the answer is no then yay!
As for shrinkies, I had the Mark Barrington. I can't even remember if they felt hard as a rock. I do know the girl who did them had a hard time removing them and I can't see doing shrinkies ever again. I brought up shrinkies because it's close to the same shape as a metal ring.
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