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    Posted: March 08 2004 at 8:28am
I use only Mastey product no Sulphates or nasties my hair & scalp have never been in better condition.

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Ingredients to avoid:

Harsh Cleansers like:
Sodium Lauryl Sulfate
Ammonium Lauryl Sulfate
DEA (DEA Lauryl Sulfate)
Sodium Laureth Sulfate
Ammonium Laureth Sulfate
Alpha Olefin Sulfonate
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Glycerin and glycerin type derivatives
Human Hair Keratin Protein (HHKP)
Animal Protein, Collagen Protein, Animal by-Products
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Bubbles in the toilet?


Originally posted by Captain Japonica Captain Japonica wrote:

Actually, what would happen if you drank shampoo?
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Actually, what would happen if you drank shampoo?
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Does Alcohol 40 and 40b cause hair loss or breakage? What is the difference between the two? Is one better than the other?
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Yes, SG, you're right, sodium laureth sulfate would be more appropriately named a lesser of many evils in the haircare world, but since 99 percent of all shampoos contain a sulfate of some type, it is by far the gentlest. So since you're going to have to make a choice, you might as well go with the mildest available.

Okay, to my knowledge, ammonium lauryl/laureth sulfate is mild stuff, though not as gentle as sodium laureth sulfate. In my experience it's too much for my hair so I stick to SLeS only. But it's by no means as bad as sodium LAURYL sulfate.

And thirdly, I was probably referring to Biotera at Sally Beauty, which is essentially a Biolage knockoff. Although Nature's Therapy (the "yellow" brand) is darn good too! :-)
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Wait wait wait, Sodium Laureth Sulfate is good for dry hair? I just thought it was the lesser of commonly used evils...

I have a lot of shampoos (well, 2 or 3) with SLS that also have Ammonium Lauryl Sulfate in them. Is that bad?

And while I'm at it, playing 20 questions here, what was that shampoo/conditioner you buy at Sally that you say you like almost as much as All Soft?

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Hi Kgirl! In my experience, the Ion line is hit or miss. The hairspray is good, as the Glossing Spray, and the color defense leave-in. The deep conditioner, Effective Care, is actually very nice. I was not wild about the regular spray-in leave-in conditioner. It had an unusual smell and seemed way too light for my moisture-deprived hair. I would definitely avoid most Ion shampoos, as they use TEA-lauryl sulfate and other drying detergents.
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Hey Lyris, how are the Ion products? I always see these at Sally's and am very curious to try out that line, especially the leave-in conditioner. Have you tried that or the shine sprays?
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Hahaha Cait....can you imagine 40-proof shampoo?

Monica, I use Ion Anti-Frizz Hairspray from Sally. It is the only alcohol-free one I've found in all my searching! It is around $5, so that's a real bonus too.
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what hairsprays can you recommend? i use frizz ease hairspray.
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Darn when I saw "Alcohol in hair products" I thought you might have found Jack Daniels in Suave products or something..
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Originally posted by Kgirl Kgirl wrote:

Thanks Lyris, for the informative list. I printed it out and put it in my wallet so I can refer to it when I go shopping for hair stuff.


TOO funny! :-) I'm glad to help. Have a lovely day!
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Thanks Lyris, for the informative list. I printed it out and put it in my wallet so I can refer to it when I go shopping for hair stuff.
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Hi everyone. A lot of people have asked for this massive ingredient list I currently have housed on my computer, and an oft-asked query is "will alcohol dry out my hair?" I want to help clarify this point. No, not all alcohol is bad for hair. There are essentially two types in hair products:

First, there are coconut derivatives or synthetics that are emollient and thus good for hair. They also thicken the product. That's why almost every conditioner in the world lists cetyl, stearyl or cetearyl alcohol high in its ingredient list.

Second, there are denatured alcohols usually found in products designed to dry quickly such as hairspray. Yes, they do evaporate quickly but they can also carry away moisture with them. Contrary to popular belief, these alcohols do not "suck the water out of hair" (I had a Sally Beauty employee tell me this once) but they aren't exactly nuturing either. Using an alcohol-based hairspray once a week will not ruin your hair. It won't do it any favors, either, so if your hair is very dry, I suggest finding an alcohol-free version.

Here is a breakdown of some of the most common alcohols found in hair products:

Denatured alcohols (not so good for dry hair):
Benzyl alcohol
Isopropyl alcohol
Ethyl alcohol
SD 40 alcohol
SD alcohol 40B

Emollient alcohols (good for dry hair; some are derived from alcohol and hence don't bear its name):
Behenyl alcohol
Ceteareth - 5
Cetearyl Alcohol
Ceteth - 2
Cetyl Alcohol
Glycerin
Laureth – 2/3
Sodium Cetyl Sulfate
Sodium Laureth Sulfate
Steareth 21
Stearyl alcohol
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