Cultish Militants on the Long Hair Board!!!

Let's just keep this thread going as long as we can and set the record,-(whatever the record is!)-.

Ok Beatnik guy...... Brent, Dave, Rod, and many other people have given their opinion. What is your opinion?


I personally just LOVE Locks Of Love!!! THOSE HUMAN HAIR WIGS ARE SOOOOO COOOOOL!!!!!!!!!! I am going to go right out and buy some human hair wigs !!!

Lady Godiva.

Everything you have said is logical and true. I cannot dispute any of it.


But what about people who have no hair, short hair, or whatever, that like human hair wigs? They just like them! They like different looks. ..... You know,wear short hair then put on the wig and wear long hair! You know a little change of pace, a little variety! And some people are not satisfied with synthetic wigs!

Surely some of those people with beautiful, flowing, gorgeous long hair want to chop off all of that beautiful hair and give it to charity or sell it for money!

Don't cha think?
-(keep this thread going, let's set the record for the longest thread ever!!!)-

RedJen.

Wow girl! You have really beautiful long red hair!
Nice!

Jen. Do this,..... grow your hair even longer, to the floor! Then cut it all off and give it to people who are bald, like the people whose hair fell out, alopecia or whatever. Then grow your hair again. Then cut it again. This time SELL YOUR HAIR!

Then just keep doing that all of your life! Grow it long then cut it off and sell it! Grow it long then cut your hair off again and sell it!!! Just keep doing that!!!Make TONS OF MONEY!!!

Then with all that money you made after cutting and selling your hair, go and buy some beautiful human hair wigs with that money!

Rock n' Roll girl ! Just grow and cut, grow and cut!!!


-(keep this thread going. We are going for the record of the longest thread ever!!!)-

God,people. It's just hair. Why get so worked up over it? I understand this is a hair forum,and it's a place to discuss hair,but seriously....chill out. It's hair. It's like debating over whether you like long fingers,or arms or legs. It's silly. Everyone has different opinions and dis/likes;there's no point in arguing.

So, everyone just shut up and get over yourselves . . .and your hair!

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(...and perhaps a little catharsis in the form of a rant :-)

Hi Tina

I'm cooled off...so we "meet" again, but I must say you made me quite nauseous and dizzy when you said (and I know it was in jest):

row it long then cut it off and sell it! Grow it long then cut your hair off again and sell it!!! Just keep doing that!!!

That is my personal nightmare in 3 sentences...

This is the mentality that freaks me out. The consumer culture that chunks of humanity have been raised in (and perhaps by) and now apply to their body parts.
To my mind, it is a dis-ease...a sickness...a sign of the times.

What the pre-dominant factions in our societies seem to be propgating (successfully?) is a rootedness of the personal identity in the appearance.

Hence:
- long-haired people are vain
- others are jealous of long-haired people
- Children suffering from cancer-related alopecia need wigs to reduce their loss of self-esteem
- long-haired people need to provide this hair
- wigmaking is perceived as charitable
- but it's "only" hair...applies only to those vain long-haired people, not the bald kids...

Confused? Not if you understand the terms "hypocrisy" and "free-market economy".
I choose to believe that we are "sold" every single thing we hear/read, including the "news" and including the propoganda of the media/educationalists/parental agencies and of so-called charities.

Where does all this lead to? To nations populated by dis-functional individuals who have a reduced capacity and virtually no memory of existing as their natural selves. Without guilt, without labels of beautiful and ugly, without a need to be constantly pursuing this weeks version of the idealized "I".

If you focus your energies on the outer, you have nothing left for the inner.
From my perspective, the inner (mind, spirit, deep consciousness) is manifesting itself in the outer (true body incl.hair, congruent action, truthfulness) and forming a perfected, unified whole.

Perhaps this belongs on the Philosophy Board.
I don't know.
Just thought I'd throw in this perspective...or re-inforce it as others here have inspired me to do.

(is anyone still awake )

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allie wrote: God,people. It's just hair. Why get so worked up over it? I understand this is a hair forum,and it's a place to discuss hair,but seriously....chill out. It's hair. It's like debating over whether you like long fingers,or arms or legs. It's silly. Everyone has different opinions and dis/likes;there's no point in arguing. So, everyone just shut up and get over yourselves . . .and your hair!

I have long fingers and legs, and no desire to cut them either. If you feel that your fingers or legs are "too long" and need to be cut, chainsaw, bandsaw, bandsaw, or katana: I'd be willing to use any of the three to fulfill your desires.


There have been jokes in this thread that just seem totally out of place. This is the worst one I have ever seen though.

*** And if you were serious, remember the Golden Rules, the standard one is in a cross-person relationship. Here's a linear one : If you're not willing to do yourself what you yell and b**** at others to do, you don't even have the right to say anything, nor to suck up later and call it a joke. Same applies to our choice of hairstyle.


Is it just me, or are the "joke" posts becoming exceedingly annoying ? Tell me if spamming up the Short Hair boards with "Scissors and shears are for the stupid." I wonder how long THAT would last.
Kepp the jokes (this kind of joke) to yourself. They aren't funny.

I don't think that anyone would argue that a good sense of humor is paramount in all our lives. However, sometimes it's abused and used to cover up insults or personal embarrassment.

However, I really didn't find Allie's remarks insulting at all.

It is interesting, however, how sometimes people complain about the comments of others when they feel personally insulted yet those same people complain that others can't take a joke or are too sensitive.

To me, that's a sign that we need to look beyond ourselves and perhaps don spectacles that another usually wears to view the world.

Well well... I disappear for a few days and look what transpires...

It is good to see your posts here, Lady Godiva. I like the way you think and agree with what you wrote. Thank you for sharing your thought-provoking comments.

Red Jen, thank you for providing us with your perspective on the issue.

And Uzma, I enjoyed reading your philosophy. It was very appropriate here, and much appreciated.

tina m wrote: I beg to differ that I have been a negative influence on Hair Talk however. I think I have been generally positive and made many new internet friends here."

A few days ago, I might not have disagreed. Since then, I have come to realize that I disagree. More on that later.

tina m wrote: I also beg to differ on men's opinions or preferences on women's hair. There is tremendous social pressure on guys to say to other guys that they automatically prefer long hair on women.

Ridiculous. If there's any social pressure on guys to say to other guys that they prefer any specific physical characteristic of women, it certainly isn't hair (and you do know what it is). In reality, men rarely talk about other women's hair. It's not considered "cool" to do so.

tina m wrote: However this being the long hair board where people like to believe long hair is automatically more popular with the majority...

Who nominated you to speak for all of us here? I don't believe that opinion has been articulated.

tina m originally wrote I will play along. Ok, long hair is more popular!!! [/QUOTE wrote: I do have a sense of humor. I don't appreciated being played with. You understand the difference. Respect it. Benji the Sausage wrote: No offense to anyone whose been on a talk show here but honestly the only motivation for someone who could easily cut their hair in a salon and donate it to do it on national TV would be to get everyones attention. I do have a sense of humor. I don't appreciated being played with. You understand the difference. Respect it. Benji the Sausage wrote: No offense to anyone whose been on a talk show here but honestly the only motivation for someone who could easily cut their hair in a salon and donate it to do it on national TV would be to get everyones attention. One of the women who once appeared on Maury admitted as much. Benji the Sausage wrote: I'm not very attached to my hair. I'm not big on physical things like hair or makeup. But I would prefer my hair long. That's cool. As I've said before, there is no requirement here for levels of dedication to growing or having long hair. Benji the Sausage wrote: There are some people who spend way to much time on their hair. Or treat it WAY to carefully. When I was younger I grew waist length hair using Suave and White rain and cotton pillowcases and brushing it while wet and my hair wasn't PERFECT, but it wasn't as terrible as some people say it will get after doing all of that. Perhaps you are one of the "lucky" ones, who can "get away" with such treatment and still have healthy-looking hair. Not everybody is so fortunate. Care techniques which result in healthier hair are supported and discussed here. It's an asset, and assets are kept in best condition with maintenance. Thanks SuperGrover, I try. Not always successfully (obviously!) Rod wrote: People bug long-haired people to give to them. Complain about that if you want. That's exactly what we're doing, Rod. In a long hair support forum, too. So I don't quite understand why you argue so arduously against our complaints. Do you believe we are not justified in being irritated by endless personal solicitations to modify our hairstyles in ways we do not wish for ourselves? Rod wrote: Locks of Love meets 20 of the BBB's 23 requirements. The other three that aren't met are not violations, just information a charity chooses not to provide. The BBB does not examine every aspect of every charity's operations. IMO, Lox' worst transgressions aren't even addressed in the BBB report. Rod wrote: Profits are distributed to people who own a company. Charities don’t have profits. Thank you for pointing that out to everybody, Rod. What Rod is reminding us all is that charities keep all of their "retained earnings," whereas for-profit companies always dilute them for taxes, and sometimes for dividends. It means that Lox' stash of cash is untouched -- and rapidly growing. Rod wrote: In the one annual report posted here, Locks of Love took in more money then their expenses. This is a fortunate occurrence few charities have. Not just "more," but double. Charity watchdog groups are critical of charities that take in so much more than is required to fulfill their stated purpose. Rod wrote: The IRS carefully monitors charities Oh ye of too much faith in the government. At most, the IRS performs a cursory review of their returns. In-depth study of them reveals a number of anomalies. Shall we ask the IRS to perform an audit on them, Rod? Rod wrote: The only opinion that counts is the people that Locks benefits. The opinions of those solicited shouldn't matter? I disagree. Rod wrote: Kids want the wigs. The wanting is the easy part. I want lots of things, too. Does this mean that I should get them, or that I have a right to them? No. Rod wrote: Who are you to tell kids they are being superficial if they want hair. Who are you to tell the kids they can't have your long hair because you refuse to grow your short hair long for donation? Rod wrote: Someone close to me had breast cancer and wore a wig. It was vain, but who are you to tell her she has no right to be vain? She has a right to be vain. She does not have a right to my hair. Rod wrote: She went through enormous pain and deserved anything to make her feel better. Of course your heart ached for her pain and suffering. I understand, because I too have a friend who is fighting cancer. But who is responsible for providing the "anything" to make them feel better? Do you actually believe that strangers (who happen to have long hair) have a responsibility to cut their hair to be made into a human hair wig for your friend? Rod wrote: I don’t think anyone on this board can say that vanity isn’t part of the reason they wear their hair long. You shouldn't pretend to know us so well, Rod. A part of the reason? Perhaps... but only a tiny part. Rod wrote: How many products do people buy every year for their vanity? Even if you don’t wear stylish clothes, make-up, or jewelry, and don’t buy any products for your hair, are you advocating no one else should? You want to police everyone’s vanity? People have the right to be as vain (or not vain) as they wish. People don't have the right to demand concessions of hair from others. Rod wrote: As I said earlier, charities have the right to sell products to help their bottom line. Heads of long hair are a relatively scarce resource. (scoff, if you will.) How many people in the U.S. have waist-length or longer hair? For the sake of argument, I'll make a swag of 5 million. How many dollars worth of assets exist in the U.S.? Trillions? Easily. Many, many trillions. How rare is long hair in relation to money? Quite. Long hair is a relatively scarce resource, and as such, should not be squandered by lox or wfk for the sake of cash (a relatively easily-generated asset). If lox or wfk sell "usable" hair, it is a gross abuse of the public trust. Rod wrote: If there were fraud, wouldn’t the BBB or IRS say there was in their reports? In all likelihood, the IRS probably doesn't even review their returns. Even if they do, they probably perform a cursory glance. What controls exist on the use and disposition of hair assets within Lox or WfK? How much information do either of these organizations provide on these questions? Virtually nothing. You can't prove that these organizations shepherd the use of their hair assets prudently. tina m wrote: Let's just keep this thread going as long as we can and set the record,-(whatever the record is!)-. I personally just LOVE Locks Of Love!!! THOSE HUMAN HAIR WIGS ARE SOOOOO COOOOOL!!!!!!!!!! I am going to go right out and buy some human hair wigs !!! I am not interested in keeping the thread going for that sake, nor in setting a record(?)... nor in promoting the purchase of human hair wigs. tina m wrote: But what about people who have no hair, short hair, or whatever, that like human hair wigs? They just like them! They like different looks. ..... You know,wear short hair then put on the wig and wear long hair! You know a little change of pace, a little variety! And some people are not satisfied with synthetic wigs! I like lots of things. Does that mean that I deserve to have them? No. Real life is that way -- for the sick and the healthy. We don't always get what we want. Being ill does not provide a "free pass" to whatever is desired. tina m wrote: Surely some of those people with beautiful, flowing, gorgeous long hair want to chop off all of that beautiful hair and give it to charity or sell it for money! Don't cha think? Your comments are antithetical to the purpose of this board. Kindly refrain from posting them here. tina m wrote: Jen. Do this,..... grow your hair even longer, to the floor! Then cut it all off and give it to people who are bald, like the people whose hair fell out, alopecia or whatever. Then grow your hair again. Then cut it again. This time SELL YOUR HAIR! Then just keep doing that all of your life! Grow it long then cut it off and sell it! Grow it long then cut your hair off again and sell it!!! Just keep doing that!!!Make TONS OF MONEY!!! Then with all that money you made after cutting and selling your hair, go and buy some beautiful human hair wigs with that money! Rock n' Roll girl ! Just grow and cut, grow and cut!!! Tina, enough is enough. Your missive is entirely contrary to the purpose of this board. [QUOTE]ina m] I'm sooooo sorry we upset you Kintaro. I now understand that the long haired board is VERY serious, no jokes allowed!

Tina, you too understand the difference between having a sense of humor, and taunting. I will tolerate no more taunting from you.

Of course I was joking Dave.

And no I will not write another message, even in a joking way, about cutting hair. And it was never my intention to be taunting at all. I was being silly and absurd.

Actually I like long hairstyles, I am attracted to many long haired people, you know that from previous posts.

Have a good Sunday!