question for William!!
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Topic: question for William!!
Posted By: Julie
Subject: question for William!!
Date Posted: January 12 2000 at 4:06am
William, I've been reading all of your responses to haircolor and have read your hair coloring tips.I don't understand your formulations. If a level 6A desires 8W why wouldn't you use 8W with 20 vol.Wouldn't a level 10 bring somebody up lghter than their desired level (8). Also, my salon will be switching over to Redken in the very near future. I hear a lot about Shades EQ but what are their permanent colors like? Thanks for your advice
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Posted By: William
Date Posted: January 12 2000 at 4:07am
> William, I've been reading all of your responses to> haircolor and have read your hair coloring tips.I> don't understand your formulations. If a level 6A> desires 8W why wouldn't you use 8W with 20 vol.> Wouldn't a level 10 bring somebody up lghter than> their desired level (8). Also, my salon will be> switching over to Redken in the very near future. I> hear a lot about Shades EQ but what are their> permanent colors like? Thanks for your adviceTo Julie;My color advice is based upon Redken Amino Color gels formula. The 'formula' is- desired level x 2 -(minus) the natural or level it is now = the 'level' of color to use. If the number is higher than 12 you must pre-lighten and then tone to achieve the desired color. The newer 'color fusion' process is a multi color process, with the same shade or 1 tonal family different color used, and formulated by the stylist for zone 1,2 or 3 as needed to compensate for tonal corrections as needed. With the 'fusion' colors natural color level + Target level, divided by 2 = final results. Example natural level 5 + level 7 'color' used = 5 + 7 = 12 divided by 2 =level 6 results with 20 vol developer. I have used both color gels and color fusion with much success. Probably I would lean toward the fusion process for most applications. william
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Posted By: William
Date Posted: January 12 2000 at 4:07am
> To Julie;> My color advice is based upon Redken Amino Color gels> formula. The 'formula' is- desired level x 2 -(minus)> the natural or level it is now = the 'level' of color> to use. If the number is higher than 12 you must> pre-lighten and then tone to achieve the desired> color. The newer 'color fusion' process is a multi> color process, with the same shade or 1 tonal family> different color used, and formulated by the stylist> for zone 1,2 or 3 as needed to compensate for tonal> corrections as needed. With the 'fusion' colors> natural color level + Target level, divided by 2 => final results. Example natural level 5 + level 7> 'color' used = 5 + 7 = 12 divided by 2 =level 6> results with 20 vol developer. I have used both color> gels and color fusion with much success. Probably I> would lean toward the fusion process for most> applications. williamTo Julie;I don't want to confuse you but let me add to my above answer a little, The gels offer a 'different' family of shades than the fusion colors and they both are great, depending on what your desired results are. look at the swatch rings and brochures and you can see what I mean. william
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Posted By: William
Date Posted: January 12 2000 at 4:07am
> William, I've been reading all of your responses to> haircolor and have read your hair coloring tips.I> don't understand your formulations. If a level 6A> desires 8W why wouldn't you use 8W with 20 vol.> Wouldn't a level 10 bring somebody up lghter than> their desired level (8). Also, my salon will be> switching over to Redken in the very near future. I> hear a lot about Shades EQ but what are their> permanent colors like? Thanks for your adviceTo Julie;My color advice is based upon Redken Amino Color gels formula. The 'formula' is- desired level x 2 -(minus) the natural or level it is now = the 'level' of color to use. If the number is higher than 12 you must pre-lighten and then tone to achieve the desired color. The newer 'color fusion' process is a multi color process, with the same shade or 1 tonal family different color used, and formulated by the stylist for zone 1,2 or 3 as needed to compensate for tonal corrections as needed. With the 'fusion' colors natural color level + Target level, divided by 2 = final results. Example natural level 5 + level 7 'color' used = 5 + 7 = 12 divided by 2 =level 6 results with 20 vol developer. I have used both color gels and color fusion with much success. Probably I would lean toward the fusion process for most applications. william
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Posted By: Julie
Date Posted: January 12 2000 at 4:07am
> To Julie;> I don't want to confuse you but let me add to my above> answer a little, The gels offer a 'different' family> of shades than the fusion colors and they both are> great, depending on what your desired results are.> look at the swatch rings and brochures and you can see> what I mean. williamthanks for responding. Im looking forward to using Redken. I'm sure I'll have plenty more questions then. Julie
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